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8th Oct 2008, 16:26
Now, I know from past threads that there are plenty of cat-lovers here, so I'm hoping someone might have a solution to this one.

The StockCat, Misty, is quite lovely and very good at putting up with the attentions of small children. However, she is the original scaredy-cat when meeting her own kind. Maybe it's because she's quite small (fully grown but still a tad on the small side) or maybe she's just yellow through and through - anyway, she is often bullied by neighbouring cats.

Delightful though these neighbours are, we tend to chase them away as Misty has an unfortunate tendency when nervous to relieve herself in the house rather than face the battleground of the garden. :*

This approach has been mostly successful until a new neighbour came on the scene - a very pretty Siamese from the next street over. She not only hisses at Misty and generally Acts Tough, she also refuses to register the fact that she's not welcome: "shoo" is blankly ignored, a faux-chase is met with incomprehension and when I lift her up and put her on the wall to her garden, she just comes back.

How do I recover my garden from this distinguished but unwelcome interloper?

8th Oct 2008, 16:38

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8th Oct 2008, 16:40

Charley B
8th Oct 2008, 16:42
Start off with a little cup of cold water and just lob it at her,it is not hurtful and cats generally dont like water and it may well discourage her!
We have one the same, Henry runs in from the front of our house,with tail up like a loo brush, as next doors 2 tabby cats chase him in--he is a big, tabby cat that bullies our other 5,yet is a real wimp when he meets next doors out in the front of the house!
We have to lift the next door tabbies off our front door step,where they sit in the sun, as they block ours getting out the cat flap!!
Good luck!!

Charley B
8th Oct 2008, 16:53
A further thought,maybe maybe increase the height of the fence,if at all possible so the pretty Siamese cant get into garden,and Misty feels safe in her own garden:)

Too Short
8th Oct 2008, 16:56
Spraying a little water at the said moggie may work. Each time you see it, direct a spray of water from something like a plant sprayer or little water pistol (no need to drench it with the hosepipe, unless this cat is really persistent!). Eventually, the intruder will start to associate your garden with an unpleasant experience and think twice before venturing there again... well, that's the theory anyway. Of course the problem arises when you are not home and the cat learns when it is 'safe' to be around. However, when I tried this a few years ago (my little cat was in a similar predicament, being intimidated by a large tomcat), it worked!

If the light spraying of water doesn't send the message, start throwing a larger quantity at it from a bucket (aim so as not to hit the cat directly, unless you want to of course! :E a 'near miss' with a larger quantity of water should still make it scram pretty swiftly!)

Another option may be to obtain a second cat who may be more territorial and defend his or her patch, from which your existing cat will benefit. There will almost certainly be a bit of resistance between a new cat and your existing cat at first until they've decided who's boss but once established, they should co-exist sweetly enough.

Edited to say: the above posts were posted as I was writing this, so forgive any repetition!

8th Oct 2008, 16:56
Train yours as a sniper!


or use their's as ammo:


8th Oct 2008, 17:04
This is all great stuff, thanks folks (although Misty is way too stupid to be trusted with firearms :) ) - I will immediately place the plant mister spray by the back door as ready armament!

Often thought about getting another cat, two's company and all that...

Sadly the dog, though utterly gorgeous, is not an option!

8th Oct 2008, 17:40
I suppose a mild solution of ammonia in the water-pistol is out of the question?

8th Oct 2008, 17:50
Ask around your younger male colleagues, Stockie, as those inclined to paintballing probably have serious water 'rifles' (called super soaker) that have significant range (and capacity).
Borrowing one of these for a weekend could enable you to get the message over to the errant feline.
In the absence of suitable work colleagues, try enquiring of the student population.
Super Soaker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Soaker)

Scooby Don't
8th Oct 2008, 17:51
This is your chance to justify getting a Supersoaker-type water gun!

Oh, and I got 804 ft with the kitty cannon....

Loose rivets
8th Oct 2008, 19:07
I second the doggie thing. This'n can catch a ball before I can see it move.


But more seriously, can't you invite the new moggie to kitty tea? Time and time again, so that it almost lives at your place for a while and they have to co-exist. The new cat may then help to protect yours. Wishful thinking perhaps, but worth a try.

I taught mine to dance so that it could make friends.


And she did.


8th Oct 2008, 20:49
I believe that the super soaker is approved by the RSPCA.

8th Oct 2008, 21:21
In the absence of a super soaker, a standard pressurised garden sprayer (the type that you pump up and then simply press a lever to spray) can be filled with water and the spray-jet adjusted to emit a single stream rather than a fan spray. Not as effective as a super soaker, but probably more 'innocent' looking if neighbours are about.

9th Oct 2008, 06:41


9th Oct 2008, 07:29
Is the Siamese cat female? Female cats are more territorial than male so this interloper is trying to extend her boundaries. Raising the fence and using a water sprayer are probably the most effective in the short term.

In the long term, Misty needs to have her confidence raised so you could try spending more time in the garden with your cat so that she learns it's safe and learns to chase away the intruder.

There are various books and TV programmes on dog psychology but I can't think of one about cats'!



henry crun
9th Oct 2008, 08:01
If you talk nicely to Tin I am sure he will lend you his python, just make sure you keep Misty inside while the python is outside.

9th Oct 2008, 10:00
Good suggestion from Henry but don't turn your back on it for one second:

Python tries to eat woman's head - (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3144696/Python-tries-to-eat-womans-head.html)

9th Oct 2008, 10:14
Excellent stuff, thanks everyone. I will give the python a miss, on the whole, though many thanks for the suggestion :p

Sadly raising the fence isn't an option as it's an old stone wall.

Looking forward to having fun playing with water! :ok:

9th Oct 2008, 10:36
The trouble with dealing with the situation as a human is that it will do nothing to dissuade the antagonistic attentions of the other cat. They will run every time they see you, but they need to run every time they see your cat.

We had a similar problem albeit with my other halfís neutered male.

He is very placid, very loving and was getting seriously hurt on a regular basis. One particular cat was actively hunting him at every opportunity. He got so stressed that it almost killed him when he could no longer pass water, he spent a week at the vets with a catheter in. The vetís bills were getting horrendous.

The cure came in the form of an injection that lasts 3 months at a time. For him it consisted of a dose of male hormones to boost his aggression and territorial instinct.
We saw a change in confidence within a week. Two weeks later he kicked Peanutís butt. (The offending cat) Now he is relaxed, confident and he has his own territory that he can go and sun himself in. The other cat stays in its own territory now.

I donít know whether a similar cure is available for female cats, but it might be worth talking to your vet.

9th Oct 2008, 10:41
That's not a bossy cat.


This is a bossy cat.

Too Short
9th Oct 2008, 10:56
There are various books and TV programmes on dog psychology but I can't think of one about cats'!

There's a book called Catlore by Desmond Morris, an animal behaviourist. I think he also did a TV series in the '90s with titles like "the wolf in your dog", "the tiger in your cat" etc., looking at the primitive behaviours displayed by our domesticated pets.

I read Catlore some years ago (I think it was published in the early '90s) but remember it had some very interesting and surprising revelations and explained a few of those mysterious traits our feline friends exhibit!

9th Oct 2008, 11:20
Squirting water is the best thing to try, but the plant mister won't be up to the job. I used to do this with someone else's cat and I used the garden hose - it didn't take it long to get the message. Of course you have to make sure you don't get your own cat instead!

I wouldn't dream of getting another cat or a dog while you have Misty, as she might well then have problems with a pet that belongs to you and lives with her 24x7.

BTW the FAB have lots of excellent information on their website:

fabcats : feline advisory bureau - the website dedicated to feline wellbeing (http://www.fabcats.org/)

10th Oct 2008, 01:14

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