KDR Advice.

[holloway182]

I have my sitting with an ATO in 2 weeks time for the KDR's.
Just wondering how much of the overall topic will be covered or is it more direct on the questions i got wrong. For example, my kdr for Aero says
Control surface feature - 2.6.8.5(B) -
The day vfr syllabus quotes that as balance tabs.
So thats fine, but should i also go over all the details in 6.8.5 aswell? (aerodynamic balance, mass balance etc)

I only ask due to time restrictions.
Cheers.

[ryda]

It really depends on the ATO and how many KDR's you have. They usually ask questions on how themselves interpret the kdr. I would revise on everything around the topic just to be safe.

[likes2fly]

For my CPL, i wrote a short paragraph on each KDR for each subject, not too much detail just the basics. Printed them out and the testing officer just read them during the flight and corrected me on anything when we landed.

He wasn't too pedantic, i could have had a good one though.

[Ratshit]

I'll bite! What the **** is a KDR?

Rat:cool:

[Aussie]

KDR stands for Knowledge deficiency report...

Basically the questions you got wrong in an exam are listed as KRDs.

[glenb]

The KDR can now be checked by your CFI or his nominee prior to the flight test. This reduces the pressure and time involved at the flight test day.

[Capt Wally]

sheeeez 'RS' thank God you stood up to the plate & asked WTF 'KDR's' where:ok:


CW:)

[Lasiorhinus]

Rat, these are a pretty new invention, only been part of the exam system since they switched to CyberExams.

And they didnt have them on your side of the ditch back in the day you got your license.... consider yourself lucky:ok:

And to the original poster - I'd make sure you cover Control Surfaces in general - the ATO isnt likely to ask specific questions based on the precise syllabus reference, they will ask more generally. I like the idea of having written summaries out for every item on every KDR - that way you know its right, and you can take the pressure off.

Also, theres nothing that says you have to have memorised everything theyre going to ask. If you have, for example, something on the KDR about CAO 48 (flight and duty times), dont try to memorise every permutation... take the CAO to the testing officer, and refer to that when answering their questions.

[flog]

I had KDR's from my paper single sit CPL exam in 1997, so they're not that new...:}

[Lasiorhinus]

I had KDR's from my paper single sit CPL exam in 1997, so they're not that new...:}


Really? Wow.. learn something new every day.:ok:

[flog]

I learned that you can't let a 6 year old watch the Transformers movie and then expect them to be asleep within an hour. Or 3 hours. But I think that's a little thread drift...

[PlankBlender]

Love the idea to go through the KDR's with an instructor before the test date, for once a sensible initiative in aviation regulation :}

Actually, some rotary organisations have been doing something similar for ages: you pick an example for each point on the KDR and write a short piece on it, and that satisfies the requirement of the ATO that you have revisited the topic. On the test day, the ATO then has a set of questions he asks you which may or may not be related to your KDRs, but which satisfy him that your know your stuff to exercise the privileges of a commercial license.

[av8trflying]

Stop it Plank.

I dont want to hear any common sense in regards to aviation.:E

[Jabawocky]

KDR stands for Knowledge deficiency report...

Rat............ I think these came along well after you learnt to fly!:cool:

Now back in ya hole!:}

J

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

S'all right 'Wal',

I didn't have a clue either.
Did my 5 cpl exams at Bondi Pavilion, Nov '65 - and flight test June '66.

All we had to do then was to fly the silly aeroplane the way we would - as 'professionally' as possible with some 'atrocious' weather....the questions were all about the weather / diversions and carby icing.
Very topical at the time...

Cheers:ok::ok:

[garman]

anybody know what "thrust stream turbulence" is? It's listed in my KDR's for aerodynamics, but I couldn't find it in the bob tait book an have NFI what it is?

[startingout]

^ jetblast....

[Capt Wally]

oh no not a genuine question, did a Google search on 'thrust stream turbulence' & the top of the list was reference to ultralights & jet thrust, seem to go hand in hand:E
I thought the subject heading (KDR) was somethin to do with an ex Kendell plane 'Griffo':}. Just goes to show that we old pilots are still alive 'cause we where taught differently:ok:


CW

[Lasiorhinus]

So what is the difference between power, and thrust?:E

[Jabawocky]

Las

Power is the rate of doing work..... i.e Torque x Speed

Thrust is a measure of Force in Kg, N or lbs etc etc.

If you need some extra help contact me. I will help as best I can.

J:ok:

[Capt Wally]

geeez 'jaba' you do lead a sad life mate, at yr age yr not supposed to still know all that useless stuff:E Power to the people:-)



CW:)