Looking for Documented Weight & Balance incidents

[WASALOADIE]

I teach Weight and Balance as part of a course. I am looking for some documents weight and balance incidents that I can use to illustrate the importance of the subject.

Can anyone pass me links please.

I'm not looking for hearsay or rumour

Thanks in advance

wasaloadie

[mtogw]

Try here, although not stirctly conclusive, but probable..


ASN Aircraft accident McDonnell Douglas DC-8-61F N27UA Miami International Airport, FL (MIA) (http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19970807-0)

[minigundiplomat]

RAF VC10 quite a few years ago ended up on it's tail after three pallets with quite a hefty combined weight were loaded first and pushed right to the back. Believe the third pallet was fairly easy to push, going down hill as it was towards the end.
Can't provide dates, fairly sure it was at Brize Norton. May find it online or in old FS incidents.

Also check out the Accident Report for the C130 crash in Kosovo, believe 'loadshift' was a big contributory factor.

[pulse1]

F27 with loads reversed. Link here: http://www.aaib.gov.uk/sites/aaib/cms_resources/dft_avsafety_pdf_501005.pdf

There was also a much more serious F27 accident at Guernsey which was due to load shift. I can't find the link.

[Cee of Gee]

This might be a good starting point -

Aviation Safety Network > ASN Aviation Safety Database (http://www.aviation-safety.net/database/)

pulse1,

The F27 link - Air Accidents Investigation Branch: 2/2000 G-CHNL (http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/sites/aaib/publications/formal_reports/2_2000_g_chnl.cfm)

C o' G

[dusk2dawn]

Fokker F-27-600, Star Air A/S, 26 May 1988, Hannover, Germany.

[Cee of Gee]

After all these years, the Guernsey F27 report still makes a sobering read.

If anyone involved with the loading of aircraft, from the operators themselves [including flight deck] through to the agents that handle them, has never read the report - please do!

C o' G

[ea-eu]

I know it seems a stupid video...
Wasaloadie, you can use it to explain to your students what can happen on an aircraft if you are too "tail heavy"
Enjoy
YouTube - Excesso Carga (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj9WFLceEWM&NR=1)

[Cee of Gee]

WASALOADIE,

Just for info - is your training part of an in-house course or as an independent?

Cheers,

C o' G

[WASALOADIE]

Re your enquiry - pm sent
part of an established military course

[c130jbloke]

Also check out the Accident Report for the C130 crash in Kosovo, believe 'loadshift' was a big contributory factor.

Sorry mate, but that had absoutely nothing to do with it. Furthermore, if the rumour about the MSP shifting in the Blair Atholl accident (C130 XV193 27 May 93) comes up, then ignore that one too ( a mountain got in their way :()

[BelArgUSA]

I had an incident in the 1980s, in Dubai while on ACMI contract.
Flying a DC8-63F for Air India, where we ended to be grossly overweight.
The crewmembers were Americans, dealing with pounds...
They informed the agent with 35,000 "LBS" as "ok to load" on the aircraft.
We ended with some 35,000 "KG"...
No need to tell you how the takeoff/climb was...
I think I passed 10 feet above the lights of the end of the runway.
xxx
I would suggest you STRESS the importance of PROPER UNITS.
There are still idiots not educated with METRIC.
:)
Happy contrails

[freightdoggy dog]

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BelArgUSA.....KGs / Pounds....was just that when the loadmaster got confused doing his mass and balance on the Sunday Morning Newspaper flight.

WASALOADIE..I have taught m+b for a fair few years, might do it again this winter up north ?? Pm me. I have plenty of material/photo's to help you.

C of Gee, few beers waiting in the Raddy SAS for you when you are up next in Stan and Teds

[Flypuppy]

There was a Flying Tigers 747-200 that suffered loadshift on take off and resulted in a slightly damaged rear section.

N806FT

I was the captain on that flight headed from EDDF to EHAM,
unfortunately unsuccessfully completed.
We started our takeoff roll from runway 25R at Frankfurt at 0804Z, October 11, 1983.
The photo was taken by Mr.Butenhaus, one of our mechanics based in Frankfurt, who was also the maintenance representative onboard the aborted flight.
The pallet/load which shifted was pipes used for nuclear power plant cooling systems.
The airplane was not written off and was flying again about 6 weeks later, having been repaired by a Boeing swat team. The swat team removed the aft fuselage and tail sections, replaced the pressure dome/bulkhead, aft fuselage and the tails sections. In fact, I also flew the airplane on its first trip back in revenue service. It was a great airplane.

Cargo Shift (http://www.aviationpics.de/ramp/tiger/tiger.htm)

[lc_aerobatics]

Download that Air_Midwest_Flight_5481_(by_apapele182).wmv (http://www.mediafire.com/?xxnndketvdd)