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Mr Cat
27th Sep 2008, 10:26
Hi All,

Interested in finding out all the different things people use and put in their nav bags for day to day operations...............

ForkTailedDrKiller
27th Sep 2008, 10:50
1) Jepps
2) ERSA
3) Licence
4) Icom VHF handheld transceiver
5) 406 MHz PLB with GPS (Oh sh*t - that's #5)
6) Garmin Pilot III GPS (just in case the other 3 (or is that 4?) **** themselves)
7) Leatherman
8) Wiz wheel (nostalgia only - don't remember how to use it)
9) Proctactor and ruler
10) Spare data card for G430
11) Mini LED torch
12) Ear plugs and Quells for pax
13) Biros
14) Spare AA batteries for DC X11
15) Change for drink machines etc

Dr :8

sms777
27th Sep 2008, 10:53
Well... Uhmmm... I could write a list here but if the missus read it she would divorce me for sure... so i just keep it my secret. :oh:

sms777
27th Sep 2008, 11:06
Forgot the Carnet cards

( unles the Bonza flies on air ) :E

gadude
27th Sep 2008, 11:10
In the bag, spare batteries for mp3 player.spare mp3 player, spare gps. 2 bottles, 1 full off water to drink, one empty...
asic card. 2 muslie bars for breakfast.
and thats about it.
ersa lives on the floor off the plane somewere...

ForkTailedDrKiller
27th Sep 2008, 11:20
777 - carnets live in my wallet!

Dr :8

AussieNick
27th Sep 2008, 11:27
ersa, ercs, wacs, vtcs, vncs, aip, wizz wheel, protractor, ruler, gps, batteries for gps, leatherman, asic, carnet cards, crap loads of pens and pencils, water, LED torch.

probably more, but i've just got back from a 5 day outback trip and am too stuffed to think at the moment

sms777
27th Sep 2008, 11:28
O.K. Mine stays in my flight bag... it gets uncomfortable sitting on it with all that money in it...:E:E:E

Lasiorhinus
27th Sep 2008, 12:09
Did anyone save a copy of the old thread on precisely this subject, back before Ye Olde Server Crash?

My nav bag contains:

ERSA
DAP East
half a dozen WACs, mostly for Western Australia, but my local one as well.
A torch
Three museli bars
A fuel drain thingy that I'm reasonably sure isnt mine... and i have no idea where mine went.
A tub of Vicks Vaporub - useful for certain passengers
A clipboard with a double Terry-clip

And recently inspired by PPRuNe - a couple of those little sticks that glow in the dark when you break them.

redsnail
27th Sep 2008, 13:04
Sennheiser headset with spare batteries.
Name plate.
Packet cappucinos
Lem sips.
Variety of bandaids and pain killers.
Ruler
Pens and high lighters.
License.
2 passports.
Torch (little maglite)
Head torch (Tikka plus)
Mini maglite on the aeroplane key chain.
Foam ear plugs.
Hi viz.
Macbook
Chargers for macbook and blackberry if airlining.
Pilot Atlas.
A couple of magazines (of a selection from "Trail, Bike, Ride, Marie Claire etc)
Emergency white pilot shirt, t-shirt, undies and socks.
Liquids such as blockout, hand cream, lip balm, deodorant.
Entry cards for Morocco
Various handling agent cards
Priority Pass guide book.
Spare room key.
breath dam for rescusitating folks.
Various name tags and other such identifiers.
If not airlining, bottle of water.
33cl thermos flask. (new thing, it's great!)
PDA
Top tip book
Sticky things for marking where I am on the Hi charts.
Spare specs
Cap.
Fruit bar.
Camera (Canon Ixus 40)
Carabiner
iPod
Wallet.

blueloo
27th Sep 2008, 13:17
Is that the samsonite oyster Nav bag redsnail ? :}

FRQ Charlie Bravo
27th Sep 2008, 14:18
Absolute minimum gear lives in my headset bag:

Headset
Licence/Medical
Local WAC/ERC
Tissues (spontaneous nosebleed sufferer)
Pencil
SicSac
Fuel Tester
one of those double adapter 90 degree screwdrivers
Extra torch
ear plugs for pax
NO BATTERIES REQD FOR MY ENR HEADSET
In the Nav Bag is the rest of stuff I want on most flights:


Pens and Pencils
Frequently used Charts
small folder of nearby aerodromes' approach plates
CR2 (I use it often, mostly just for doing fractions)
Spare change (all denominations)
Spare torch (piece of paper between battery and coil stops accidental draining of power)
Spare batteries for torches (best that all torches and maybe GPS use same battery size)
Business cards (company and my own)
mini-cd with important documents (doubles as extra signal mirror)
more ear plugs for pax
more SicSacs
backup GPS with power cable (not external antenna, this is for backup so no big deal putting it on top of the panel)
Face shield for CPR (actually on my keyring but I wouldn't fly pax without it)
my own mini survival kit:
1 emerg poncho
rubber bands
several bandages
twine
fishing line
4 Panedol
2 hose clamps (each coiled around a 5 cent coin to use as the screwdriver, able to be joined together to make a larger clamp)
tinder for fire (dryer lint and wooden matches with heads broken off, heads not allowed - refer to carriage of Dangerous Goods)
tiny signal mirror
2 sachets freeze dried coffee (not decaf, that'd be silly)
2 sachets salt
2 sachets sugar
1 non-lubricated condom (not for the ladies, for keeping caught water hence the lack of lubricant)
40 cm of duct tape (rolled onto itself)
12/24 Volt cigarette lighter (not found in most aircraft these days, at $2 and about 30 grams why not have them in the aircraft's surv kit?)
plastic zip ties (good for when Cessna windows pop open in flight)I also try to hide a can of soup (Mmmm, cheap and dirty Coles Mexican Beans) in most of the aeroplanes I fly. This often comes in very handy.

Lastly, and I'm quite proud of this one, I keep some safety matches tucked into that little bit of padding on my headset. Safety matches are not prohibited under the DG regs if they are carried on one's person. I can't put them in my nav bag or the aeroplanes survival kit and I don't smoke so I wouldn't remember to put them in my pocket. Also, I couldn't find any waterprrof ones but read online about simply dipping them into melted candle wax to cover them from top to bottom. To use just rub the wax off the head.

FRQ CB

FRQ Charlie Bravo
27th Sep 2008, 15:33
Hey, What happened to Puff's post.

Anyway, Yeah, I get that MacGuyver thing quite bit. I really need a life (other than the exciting and enviable life I lead here on PPRuNe every friggin' Friday and Saturday night).

Ha, that reminds me of this great Ari Gold quote (stop me if you've heard this one before):

Lloyd, pack up all my files. Pile everything you see into a box. Everything! You see a used condom, an executioner's mask, and a goddamn spiked paddle... don't think, just pack that bitch. Chop suey! FRQ CB:ok:

The Wawa Zone
27th Sep 2008, 16:40
Its been a while, but when I actually had a nav bag....

1. A few instrument dial covers made out of Milo tin lids and fridge door suction caps, to cover up dead AH etc. (Cheaper than the $20 ones from Pilot Ripoff Shop.)
2. Tube of Coffee Milk, to stay awake with when you're getting a head start on tomorrow's F & D sheet; just don't suck all of it in one night or you'll be set for a 48 hour rave party.
3. ****loads of water
4. Couple of cans of John West fish, and tinned fruit; just keep the stuff away from the dogs. Use your ASIC card for a spoon.
5. Fencing pliers; the airport fence wire is your Aeromil parts counter on a stick....
6. Plug socket / 5/8" 7/8" spanners and plug cleaning gear; yeah and don't lend it out to someone....
7. DIY survival kit, with ELT, pen flares, mirror (and a lot more).
8. DIY med kit including a bottle of Betadine and some squeeze bottles of Chlorhexadine (kills everything so don't get it in your eyes).
9. Double looped 1/4" cable ties; one day you will have to tie someone up.
10. Camera, otherwise they'll never believe you.
11. Spare sunnies.
12. Empty condom wrapper to carry your paycheck. :ugh:

redsnail
27th Sep 2008, 19:26
It's a bit of a tardis but I do use most of that stuff.

Although, haven't used the Moroccan entry cards for a while. :ok:

apache
27th Sep 2008, 20:48
copy of the current EBA
copy of scheduling rules
claim forms
spare pens to fill in claim forms
breath mints for when hostie appears
laptop ... to keep track of my claims
various currencies
mobile phone x 3


and somewhere I think there may be a licence and medical... not sure though. I know it is SOMEWHERE

BPH63
27th Sep 2008, 20:59
a pair of cheapo Bunnings leather gloves - in case of cockpit fire - and some big zip lock bags to chunder into :8

puff
27th Sep 2008, 23:49
Sorry FRQ, feel beers and I think I hit the delete button trying to change it !

But seriously good post though because a lot of things there are a bit of comedy but some good ideas as well though.

Though I do find it hard to imagine the size of some of these flight bags though, redsnails must be the size of a foot locker :P

compressor stall
28th Sep 2008, 01:25
Camera
Tripod
Lenses
Beanie
Sunglasses
Goggles
Boot chains
Balaclava
Spare gloves
Down jacket
Lunch box
thermos
Silk inner sleeping bag liner
Sunscreen


All the flying stuff (licence, pens etc) gets left in the aircraft. :8

Towering Q
28th Sep 2008, 01:49
You forgot Penguin Snacks!!:eek:

the wizard of auz
28th Sep 2008, 07:27
wotsa nav bag?
I got a whiteboard marker for writing notes on the window, and a pen for writing notes on my hand (I actually dispensed of these recently when I realized I wasn't fooling anyone. they all know I can't write). there's always a map under a seat or in a seat back. Pax bring their own chundersac. I got an ASIC for slipping under the gate latch at Darwin. I can't afford muesli bars, and the 50c 2 minute noodle taste like crap without chili sauce.
Don't carry water....... its gotta come out again eventually.
Aah, nav bags just encourage you to carry crap you don't really require.
You mob are just over equipt.:E

Pinky the pilot
28th Sep 2008, 08:18
Back in PNG the Nav bag had a few extra 'goodies' in it other than the required documents. We also carried two separate containers about 12'' square by 3'' deep which had Emergency rations, water and a first aid kit. The other container had flares, parachute and smoke.

My Nav bag's extras were

Maglite torch
Spare batteries
Smokes and a spare lighter
Condoms:O
Smith and Wesson Mod.41 Pistol
Box of 50 rounds for the above
Barley sugars or similar
A sharp knife
Electronic calculator
Couple of spare pens

Can't remember what else but there probably were a few more things.:confused:

djpil
28th Sep 2008, 08:20
Lotsa stuff mentioned thats not in my bag but some not mentioned that is in mine:
- USB flash drive full of useful stuff
- 406 MHz EPIRB
- NextG phone with links to weather & NOTAMS saved
- AOPA airfield directory (with pic of me on the cover)
With the tie-down kit and mixture lock there's a small toolbox with spare inspection panels, 100 mph tape, common hardware and a small selection of tools. If I'm really serious about going somewhere there's a spare tailwheel tyre and tube in there too.

distracted cockroach
28th Sep 2008, 08:32
Has changed with every job I've had, but currently:
Sony PDA
Mini Maglight
Small note pad
Wallet with currency of whatever country we are going to...left over from previous trip's allowances.
Several pens...all free from hotels etc
One Sharpie marker
Small digi camera
Sanicom wipes
Wet and Dry CRT/LCD screen wipes
Mouldable foam earplugs
Sennheiser Noise reducing headphones and i-pod shuffle
2 School type exercise books with type rating notes and line training/flying notes
World Atlas
Current and previous roster
Crew rest bag (toothbrush and mini paste, panadol, lip balme, eyeshade, sleeping t-shirt etc)
Small laptop (13in)
Company manual suite on CD
Cellphone
Carkeys
Folder with licence and passport

In general, the further you go along in your career, the less stuff you tend to carry.....possibly because you get sick of carrying a bunch of stuff you never use. I flew with a long haul Captain the other day who carried nothing but a small sized paper shopping bag....legend!

redsnail
28th Sep 2008, 11:49
Puff, feels like it if I have a long trek to the gate (and checked in the luggage case) :ooh:

MonsterC01
28th Sep 2008, 22:46
1. Tube of Vas - handy for the daily reeming handed out from company to pilots.
2. Laptop - for surfing internet porn on layovers, between reemings from company.
3. Condoms - Now removed from nav bag as overworked and underpaid airline pilots don't get layed anymore.

Just the bare essentials.

framer
28th Sep 2008, 23:17
-Jepps
-Folder with commonly used plates
-baseball cap for into sun sectors
-passport & licence
-A5 plastic sheet type folder with useful stuff like alternate minimas, company phone numbers etc, ....don't think I've used it in last 12 months.
-roster
-one sick bag
-2 pens
-glasses (for eyes....not drinking) x 3
- coins for coffee
-small calculator
- two neurofen tablets just in case.

Atlas Shrugged
29th Sep 2008, 00:38
Pilot Atlas.



:suspect: .

cjam
29th Sep 2008, 02:01
What is a pilot atlas?

werbil
29th Sep 2008, 02:01
NAV Bag:
Local charts
Change of clothes
Mask & Snorkel
Warm Jacket

On me:
Personal life jacket
Personal 406 EPIRB
Leatherman wave
Swimmers
LED torch

In door pocket:
Next G phone with local radar page bookmarked

If I've got spare time away from base and the inclination:
Notebook Computer

spini
29th Sep 2008, 03:55
Cjam, have a look at either “www.PilotsAtlas.com” or “www.absolutezero.de”. It is called The Pilots’ Free Flight Atlas, the best general atlas for pilots operating in Europe, North Africa, Middle East, Indian Sub Continent etc. Lots of useful info and used daily by many pilots.

It is one of those products that really is designed by pilots for pilots and no, I don't work for them.

There is a similar one for North America but haven’t seen one that goes as far south as Australia yet.

cjam
29th Sep 2008, 04:52
cheers mate, never heard of it before:)

FRQ Charlie Bravo
29th Sep 2008, 07:31
The Pilot's Atlas:

Kind of like the Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy... only a bit more domestic.:8

FRQ CB