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lc_461
21st Sep 2008, 05:50
John Borghetti is web chatting to people live at the moment - qantas.com/media. Follow the links. Interesting info on A380 future destinations, CC make up an premium economy, 747-8 & 777 is all within it.
He is answering questions from the general public! Quite amazing really, but certainly a step in the right direction for Qantas to get in touch with its customers.

lc_461

HEALY
21st Sep 2008, 06:31
Dont you mean John Brought:)

Qantas 787
21st Sep 2008, 06:57
Agree - good to hear some honest answers and not the ones the media wants to print.

Aussie
21st Sep 2008, 13:40
Anything interesting said in this chat of his?

lc_461
21st Sep 2008, 21:30
Yes - from memory, he mentioned


2 class 744s to become 3 class (Eco, Prem, Business) in 2009
A380 eventually to HKG & SFO
All cabin crew to wear new uniform begininning Oct 20.
A380 fares will be the same as 747 fares, except for First Class
A380 will be doing promo tours to BNE, SYD, MEL, ADL, PER, during October
Rumour, unconfirmed that the A380 will do a MCG flyover oon grand final day
Full internet suite will be available for all passengers on A380 by late 2009.Cheers

lc_461

lc_461
22nd Sep 2008, 08:24
See above

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lc_461
22nd Sep 2008, 10:17
I dont quite understand what you mean DirectAnywhere... What sort of thing would you call interesting?

For the full conversation, follow the links from qantasmedia.com.au

max autobrakes
22nd Sep 2008, 12:07
Where's Cal Amity when you need him ?
I bet he would have some interesting questions like
"can you reverse an A380?":}

lc_461
22nd Sep 2008, 21:58
Sorry mate! Tongue in cheek.....

I must admit I don't find new cabin crew uniforms, A380 fares, possible MCG flyovers etc. all that interesting.

I'd be more interested to know whether he mentioned future fleet plans, future potential, changes to the business model/ plan that have been mooted for nearly 3 months now, any mergers/ acquisitions that the company is looking at rather than the fluffy, peripheral stuff that seems to be all the spindoctors will allow to be released these days.

Thanks for the info. Cheers.

My bad. I understand. Went back, and did mention that descion on the 77W would be made within 12 months. The 747-8 is not an option.
Sorry for the confusion.

:ok: lc_461

packrat
23rd Sep 2008, 01:15
Last year at the Redfern Love In come strategy day Borghetti indicated that the A380 would go to JNB...and now its SFO.
The Aircraft is designed specifically for high volume traffic routes...LAX LHR JNB...SFO wouldnt have the loads to warrant the A380 surely?

blow.n.gasket
23rd Sep 2008, 10:23
Except in Qantas configuration!
It only packs a few more than a 744.

Ken Borough
23rd Sep 2008, 12:05
Where's Cal Amity when you need him ?

Is he in Kal??

Wouldn't LLH be a breath of real fresh air in QCC?? I hope that he's travelling well. :ok::ok:

kotoyebe
25th Sep 2008, 06:41
Except in Qantas configuration!
It only packs a few more than a 744.

Actually it carries an extra 145 more pax than the newly selling 4 class pacific config. Me thinks that a 47.5% capacity increase over the 747 might just be useful and significant! (and from what I understand for about the same amount of fuel burn. I stand corrected on that)

teresa green
25th Sep 2008, 12:56
Where is Cal Aminity anyway? Didn't the bloke get promoted after putting a RB211 into reverse at SYD. Perhaps that where I went wrong, I only ever went forward.:(

mrpaxing
26th Sep 2008, 05:16
kotoyebe?
747k new 14PC 52JC 32 WC 255YC = 353
747k old 14PC 50JC 315 YC = 379
747 P old 14 PC 64JC 265 YC = 343
747P new 14PC 64 JC 32 Wc 187YC =297 hthere aren,t many of these configs out there.:ok:

kotoyebe
26th Sep 2008, 07:57
Mrpaxing,
The one I saw in our system is 747P(new) 14P 64J 40W 187Y = 305.

But assuming your figures are correct, then it highlights my point even more...ie that the A380 is a significant increase in capacity over the 747.

Autobrakes4
26th Sep 2008, 08:36
Not that many more in an A380.

Old 2 class 744 : 66/356
New 2 class 744 : 56/366 (skybed)

Including infants and crew, I've had 460 on a 2 class 744 before. I'm sure the Classic boys could beat that easily. So the way Qantas have configured the 380, its not that much more capacity wise. In fact, bugger all.

twiggs
26th Sep 2008, 11:42
Comparing to a 2 or 3 class is irrelevant when the A380 is a 4 class aircraft and will be replacing 4 class 744 aircraft.

lowerlobe
27th Sep 2008, 00:34
747P new 14PC 64 JC 32 WC 187YC
380...14PC 72JC 32 WC 332 YC
I find it interesting that the QF config is less than SIA's and Emirates with 471 & 514 respectively.

I would have thought that given the extra revenue from JC and premium YC that those classes would have been larger.With only 8 more JC seats the main difference between the two aircraft is the larger YC config.

Perhaps it is a weight issue with the JC seats but still I would have thought more JC or even WC and a reduction in YC would have been on the cards....especially on the LA runs.

I wonder whether QF will change the config as they did with the 747 as time goes on with the lure of extra revenue proving irresistible.I also hope that the procedures for WC (who thought of that acronym..looks like Water Closet) is a bit better thought out than on the 744.

Does anyone know how much extra cargo the Dugong carries than the 744?

Also is there going to be a Pacific config and a Kangaroo config with the flying Brioche as there is with the 744.

watch your6
28th Sep 2008, 04:20
Once the number of A380s reach critical mass expect pax config to change....up....not down.
Its just marketing playing around

Going Boeing
28th Sep 2008, 08:55
I suspect that as the first four aircraft were planned to operate to LAX then the current config is a "Pacific". As LL pointed out this config is significantly less than SQ & EK so I would think that there will be a "Kangaroo" configuration with a higher seating capacity appear with later deliveries.