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vectis lady
17th Sep 2008, 08:02
Sorry if its spelt wrong but i was watching CSI last night and they kept refering to Surveiling a suspect, Is that even a real word ? there was also a quick mention of being surveilized

Sorry if im being thick but they sound made up to me

Howard Hughes
17th Sep 2008, 08:10
A quick Google and it would seem it is something that only takes place on the other side of the Pacific/Atlantic!;)

No sign of it in the Penguin dictionary either!:ok:

OK, OK, so I don't own a 'real' dictionary, wanna make something of it?:}

NRU74
17th Sep 2008, 09:01
Afraid any noun can be 'verbed'

larssnowpharter
17th Sep 2008, 09:04
Why should nouns have all the fun?

Why cant verbs be nouned?

AppleMacster
17th Sep 2008, 09:07
Surveilling (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/surveilling) appears in the American Heritage Dictionary, but isn't part of the Queen's English.

"Surveillized" sounds completely made up and an excuse for limited vocabulary. "Burglarized" is now in common usage at the western side of the pond, so is only a matter of time before such bastardisation as "Surveillized" becomes part of everyday usage.

Of course, I'm just a self-confessed, old-fashioned, language-snob. It's ever-evolving and with "text speak" now being included in dictionaries (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-9832741-52.html), anything goes! :ugh:

I've just realised in making this post, the word "Surveillized" has just become proof-of-evidence for entry in a dictionary. Shoot me now. :{

Bushfiva
17th Sep 2008, 09:08
Yup, it's a word, as in Lockheed-martin's SMACM: Surveilling Mininiature Attack Cruise Missile. The word's at least 30 years old.

MagnusP
17th Sep 2008, 09:09
The "proper" 20-vol OED has it as surveil or surveille, with surveilling being what you're after. Found in the US in 1960, 1966 in the Guardian and 1969 in New Scientist. Back-formation from surveillance.

tony draper
17th Sep 2008, 09:48
We are all being spyerizationed on it tell you. :uhoh:

Forkandles
17th Sep 2008, 10:07
The "proper" 20-vol OED


Is contrafribularites in that one? It is a common word down our way... :ok:

Farmer 1
17th Sep 2008, 10:14
Trying to be a bit logical here. Sorry - a failing of mine.

If a house is burglarized, would that be by a burglarizer?

If so, what does a burglarizer do - burglarizate, perhaps?

If so, would that make a house burglarizated?

If so, would that make the aforementioned burglarizer a burglarizator?

If so...


What's wrong with keeping things simple?

Flying_Frisbee
17th Sep 2008, 11:12
Why cant verbs be nouned?
They can, in which case they become Gerunds.

Wader2
17th Sep 2008, 11:24
The "proper" 20-vol OED has it as surveil or surveille, with surveilling being what you're after. Found in the US in 1960, 1966 in the Guardian and 1969 in New Scientist. Back-formation from surveillance.

In 1969, in the Garuinad it would have been misspelt.

GrumpyOldFart
17th Sep 2008, 23:46
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Why cant verbs be nouned?


They can, in which case they become Gerunds.




Didn't someone speak of "Kennedy bringing the gerund into captivity"?


Or should that be "The bringing into captivity of the gerund by Kennedy"?

:confused: