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Critical Reynolds No
13th Sep 2008, 12:58
Like AA have?
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j288/fizzychops/a2a767_1.jpg

Lasiorhinus
13th Sep 2008, 12:59
Paint them in American colours?

I doubt it.... :}

Buster Hyman
13th Sep 2008, 13:54
Mutton dressed as lamb...besides, it's not a real 762 unless it's got a 3 crew config!!!:p;):ugh:

Critical Reynolds No
13th Sep 2008, 23:20
That's becasue it aint a 762!:ok:

apache
13th Sep 2008, 23:39
what is that big aerial on the tail ?

max autobrakes
13th Sep 2008, 23:42
A trailing static source used during flight testing I'd say.

Capt Wally
14th Sep 2008, 01:22
nah tha's the RX aerial from an R/C model:ok:
Like the A300, the original B767 where real mans planes, 3X crew all doing their jobs happily, now they do it for half the price & more workload:bored:


CW

Skystar320
14th Sep 2008, 01:57
Doubt the QF would put winglets on the aircraft..... The will be soon replaced by 787's

Roger Copy Ta
14th Sep 2008, 02:15
Interesting how they've used a starboard wing extension to compensate for the missing engine... could see Qantas trying this to save on fuel and maintainance costs. :}

Lasiorhinus
14th Sep 2008, 03:21
That's an option I didnt consider, when making this post :E

http://www.pprune.org/d-g-general-aviation-questions/340519-se-turbine-time-2.html#post4391023

Buster Hyman
14th Sep 2008, 05:47
Not a 762???

How strange. I thought all the N reg 763's had to have the full size exit forward of the wing...:confused: Must be everyone else then?

Oh well...at least I knew it wasn't a 764!

satmstr
14th Sep 2008, 06:57
Ha Ha Skystar320 , soon to be replaced by the 787 ...... what is defined as soon by boeing..... i think they might be getting close to the A380 delay time frame .... anyhow i am sure the 767 will be around for a bit longer than what people think.....unless Qantas gets the 777 , and thats a whole different story then ......:oh:

Critical Reynolds No
16th Sep 2008, 03:50
AirNZ are!!:ok:
Air NZ hope to save millions on fuel - Breaking News - Business - Breaking News (http://news.theage.com.au/business/air-nz-hope-to-save-millions-on-fuel-20080916-4hgv.html)

jsfboat
17th Sep 2008, 01:32
Guess the new Fall fashions are out!

Bolty McBolt
17th Sep 2008, 19:42
I heard the word freight and freighter mentioned. No mention of winglets or not? :ok:

Start slow now and be on line when the economy turns ??

c100driver
17th Sep 2008, 19:44
Aviation Partners Boeing reports brisk 767 blended winglet sales

ATW Wednesday September 17, 2008
Aviation Partners Boeing said it expects its 767 winglet program to be a runaway success and this week announced agreements to fit blended winglets on 767-300ERs operated by Air New Zealand and Hawaiian Airlines.
ANZ said it will fit its five 767-300ERs with blended winglets by the end of next year and HA said it will have eight of the type fitted by the end of 2010. APB claims that winglets on 737s and 757s have saved a collective 1.2 billion gal. of fuel and 11.5 million tonnes of CO2 while reducing those types' noise footprint by 6.5%. It has sold winglets to 140 airlines and 95% of all 737NGs are fitted with them. It is working on four winglet concepts for the 777 and hopes to finalize a design for that aircraft type by December. ANZ is expected to be the launch customer.
ANZ GM-Airline Operations David Morgan told ATWOnline that he expects the airline to save more than NZ$7.5 million ($5 million) in fuel costs and 16,000 tonnes of CO2 emissions annually by fitting blended winglets on its 767-300ERs. The 767 fleet, which operates regional international services, will be fitted progressively from next July. The work will be carried out by ANZ Technical Operations.
The 767-300ER winglets are 3.4 m. high and the program, launched by American Airlines, is expected to gain certification later this year. APB Director-Sales and Marketing Craig McCallum said the 767 winglet program has been the fastest-selling, with 141 shipsets already sold. He forecast fuel savings of 4%-6% for medium/long-range flights, with 500-nm. flights experiencing a 1.5% fuel savings.
by Geoffrey Thomas

Taildragger67
17th Sep 2008, 22:34
That ANZ article mentions winglets for 777s. Not seen those mentioned before, except in terms of getting rejected for the LR in favour of raked tips. But now they're making a comeback?

Wasn't the 777's super-duper supercrit wing meant to not need winglets/fences etc?

apache
17th Sep 2008, 23:42
Wasn't the 777's super-duper supercrit wing meant to not need winglets/fences etc

that IS indeed the correct answer..... for a CATHAY interview!

Torqueman
29th Sep 2008, 08:20
Well if QF were smart they would.

So probably not. :confused:

Capt Fathom
29th Sep 2008, 13:34
I guess it all comes down to return on investment.

For some airlines, it will be a no-brainer.

For others, it will be a no-goer!

blueloo
29th Sep 2008, 23:33
..be nice of QF put a bloody GPS* and new relatively modern FMCs on the 767s before considering winglets.....haha who am i kidding neither will happen.







(*disclaimer....other than last 3 767s with GPS and terrain GPS)

Colonel25
13th Oct 2008, 08:59
I reckon it would give the 767s great lines. The 737NGs look great with them, especially the 800 and 900s. The 757s look pretty cool too. I guess if you are saving fuel costs and preformance increases come from it, its a good deal