View Full Version : The about time we had a 'shed thread' thread

9th Sep 2008, 13:57
Hi folks.

The talk on JB used to be of sheds.

But this seems to have a died a death.

So folks, how are your sheds? Still functioning? Rotting? Submerged following the crud weather we've had?

I don't have a shed, but my friend Ron -- who's shed has featured here before -- says his shed's window was getting smashed regularly by his son playing football.

He did not take my advice that he should chain his son in the basement for while but instead went out and bought a job lot of glass so that repairs would be cheaper.

His son stopped playing football.

Anyone need some shed glass?

9th Sep 2008, 14:15
Do you have frilly curtains on your shed windows, angels? Mr. Draper disapproves of such things but I have no idea why. :(

9th Sep 2008, 14:27


9th Sep 2008, 14:27
Judges' ruling requested:

I do not have a separate structure.

I have one small, unfinished room in my finished basement that is also stuffed with the other unwanted or ill-used detritus of my life.

Does it meet the spirit of a 'shed?' Or must it meet the letter as well?

9th Sep 2008, 14:36

The Ploy


The bricks


On its way


The shed!!



9th Sep 2008, 14:39
I have one small, unfinished room in my finished basement that is also stuffed with the other unwanted or ill-used detritus of my life.

Yer real name's not Fritzl, by any chance?


tony draper
9th Sep 2008, 14:41
One believes one can purchase ready yellowed and cobwebbed glass for shed windows from Homebase now.

9th Sep 2008, 15:15
Yer real name's not Fritzl, by any chance?

Well played. :ok:

Mr Grimsdale
9th Sep 2008, 15:48
gingernut, that's not a shed that's a pied-Š-terre!:}

9th Sep 2008, 15:54
I have one small, unfinished room in my finished basement that is also stuffed with the other unwanted or ill-used detritus of my life. Does that mean everyone in the 'tornado corridor' in the USA that also has a similar room available in case of emergency should be tarnished with the Fritzl-brush...?!

I'd wager that 80% of the French (including myself, even if I'm not French) have little idea of what it would mean to have a garden shed. Their governments have convinced them that garden shed (and gardens) have no importance - hence the average French citizens' acceptance of living in multi-storey buildings compared to their UK or US counterparts. If only because of all the developers of such 'buildings and lifestyles' and their continued influence even after all the scandals of the early 2000s relating to the decades before. But the same political parties are still there and continue to be financed however, even in 2008...?! :sad:

9th Sep 2008, 16:02
Do I have a shed?

Hell yes - I'm a GA pilot. I live in a shed. I dream one day of having a house.

Roland Pulfrew
9th Sep 2008, 16:27
I was thinking of popping to my local pub on Friday night and building a small shed! Does that count?

Standard Noise
9th Sep 2008, 20:34
Funny, after I put in the base for our new shed, I did ask Mrs N if she wanted a brick one or a wooden one. For the money we spent on the wooden one, I could have bought enough bricks to build one.
Mind you, the wooden one went up in an afternoon.

Old one was so rotten, the spiders had moved out and slugs were living in the timbers.

9th Sep 2008, 20:53
You can tell the man by what's in his shed.
One very large lawnmower. (Why am I paying gardeners)
Weedkiller. Kills everything apart from weeds.
Diesel. For weeds.
Every kind of lightbulb that has ever been designed.
A mountain bike.
Two microwaves.
A shed heater.
A kite.
Another kite.
A bow and arrow. (A proper compound one. But only one arrow)

Loose rivets
9th Sep 2008, 21:20
Since the deal on my neighbor's house has fallen though, One is going to build the shed.

Not to live in, but to liberate the patio. I can't leave a bargain, so when I got my A/C unit, ripping it out what the house was being demolished round me, I picked up a large gas water-heater. $100 like new. I knew that it still worked, cos the water was boiling merrily away in it as I started un-plumbing it. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh! Even the gas meter had been smashed by lorries weeks before.

Anyway, it would have gone in the neighborer's house, but now must be stored. Along with the cement mixer and the wheel barrow. Ah, lawn mower. My pal here used that allot while we were away. Tools, wire, plaster, some chlorine buckets from my son's house. They are sooooooo handy for mixing tile cement etc.

It won't be a classy brick one, but it might be an autoclaved concrete one so that I can experiment with the Cooling unit in preparation for my dream house.

Dream is the right word. We need to be in the UK most of the time now. New babies there and also building a shed just does not quite compensate for leaving me pals behind. But to while away the time till I'm there.

This is, we're right near a canal. They are talking of enforced evacuation. Don't like that enforced bit. Thousands of cars heading north and history shows we'd be better here. Now, Shed. Rebar and loads and loads of concrete. Hurricane proof? We'll see.

9th Sep 2008, 23:17
My dad had a shed where he use to dissapear to and do up old chairs etc. After he died, some 20 years ago aged 75, I cleared it out and in a bottom draw found half a bottle of rum (he was ex Navy) and a copy of Playboy. I recall my mum often saying, 'he's down the shed, God knows what he does there all day'!

9th Sep 2008, 23:29
Anyone need some shed glass?

Yes, but without doubt, the piece you have is just under half an inch too short and therefore cannot be fitted to any shed but your friend's...... life's invariably like that... :ugh:

Richard Taylor
10th Sep 2008, 08:19
I have built a Collidor in my shed, & am about to recreate the Big Bang theory.


10th Sep 2008, 08:32
I have built a Collidor in my shed Is that like a cat flap, but for dogs? :}

10th Sep 2008, 10:26
OOh! Nice one :ok:

Or it could be a Labrador..

10th Sep 2008, 11:21
gingernut - In my manor you could squeeze a family of 17 into your 'shed' and get quite a few bawbees in rent.

Really impressive! :ok:

10th Sep 2008, 12:51


Doubles as beer store and general animal welfare centre with underfloor mouse hotel, integral bird feeding platform and (thought to be a first) ensuite fully weatherproofed bat cavity.

10th Sep 2008, 13:10
Did that roof originally come off a larger shed?

10th Sep 2008, 13:22
frostbite: Did that roof originally come off a larger shed?

Gives SSKat somewhere dry to sit while she waits for the mice to come out to play.

10th Sep 2008, 14:33
Ahhh! The shed; my reserve haven. Anonymous chemicals, dozens of plastic plantpots, mountain bike in need of new tyres, trampoline in bits but-I'll-fix-it-if-I-ever-have-grandchildren, cheapo radio, garden tools, some of which I have no recollection of buying and no intention of using.

Primary haven, though, is the garage as it has a considerably better radio, electricity, heating (previous owner was restoring his MG Midget) and two refrigerators full of cider, beer and wine. Wins hands down.

10th Sep 2008, 14:50
Whenever my chorus sings 'In my Room' (written by Brian Wilson) our MD dedicates it to 'all you men in the audience who have a shed to go to'.

There's a world where I can go and tell my secrets to
In my room, in my room
In this world I lock out all my worries and my fears
In my room, in my room.............................................

nitro rig driver
10th Sep 2008, 17:01
Is that a new slimline sat dish mounted on the roof :\

10th Sep 2008, 20:20
nitro rig driver: Is that a new slimline sat dish mounted on the roof

The mice put it there. Picks up MTV, apparently.

22nd Oct 2008, 08:29
And don't forget the official guide for shedworkers!

Shedworking: Tumbleweed Tiny House: on tour (http://www.shedworking.co.uk/2008/06/tumbleweed-tiny-house-on-tour.html)

22nd Oct 2008, 11:33
A shed? You had a shed? Luxury!

WE only had a tent back in my day, sitting in the garden during rains.


22nd Oct 2008, 14:19
Lawnmowers? Fertilizer? Plant pots? :uhoh:

These are not sheddies, these are mere gardeners, posing as men. :suspect:

A REAL sheddie has a work bench, with nine inch vice, power saws (various), drill press with a BIG drill, pot belly stove and a huge chest full of hand tools, angle grinders, brazing lamps, and assorted left-over parts from previous jobs.

Not to mention a big leather armchair, 42" flat screen TV and a large, well stocked refrigerator. ;)

22nd Oct 2008, 15:06
brickhistory. didn't Herr Schiklegrubber end his days in an
underground shed?
But he called it a "bunker".

16th Feb 2013, 08:14
This is what a shed can do for you in Queensland.


16th Feb 2013, 08:32
Off to Queensland, I need one of those.:)
However after four hours please see a doctor.

owen meaney
16th Feb 2013, 10:11
Hobo :ok:
Yeah, all Australian boys need a shed
A place where he can go, somewhere to clear his head
To think about the things his woman said
Yeah, all Australian boys need a shed

A joint to learn to read an' write, to work on his bike at night
To grow up as he likes, to grow anything under lights
A place to keep his tools, nuts and bolts and drills
To hang a hide, to hide the dry or hang to pay the bills

John Williamson

16th Feb 2013, 11:27
My shed ...

wings folded
16th Feb 2013, 12:32
Who required the installation of the yellow "Danger" sign in what seems to be your own shed?

I would have preferred a nice pink or perhaps turquoise sign saying "Try sticking your fingers in this heavy duty band saw"

Those who chose to do so could not subsequently sign the court papers to sue you, so where's the harm?

16th Feb 2013, 12:44
Vee, that's one heavy kettle. What's in it; plutonium?

16th Feb 2013, 12:44
Thought you might have meant one of these...?



16th Feb 2013, 12:46
and what on earth is in the kettle on the hook of the chain hoist??? Heavy wa
ter? ;)

oops beaten to it!

16th Feb 2013, 18:52
It's for Collie dogs, silly!
I can't have a shed 'cos I live in a fifth floor apartment. But I have got a room which is beginning to resemble a shed. Does that count?

16th Feb 2013, 18:55
VT brill :) where do you keep the bodies? Shall we have a quote from me secret santa ' Xmas present? Fifty Sheds of Grey: A Parody: Erotica for the Not-too-modern Male (Book) by C. T. Grey (2012): Waterstones.com (http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/products/c-+t-+grey/fifty+sheds+of+grey3a+a+parody/9400786/?gclid=CLOc5YvLu7UCFcbKtAodNXUALQ)

16th Feb 2013, 21:56
Vtail, that's one nice big bandsaw! Does it get any serious use, apart from cutting firewood?
What make is it?

Yamagata ken
17th Feb 2013, 05:11
Great, a shed thread! My favourite, but useless without pictures. Here's mine, modest but usefully equipped.


I love my table saw. It has arbours for my router and jigsaw. The table over the compressor is at the correct height to receive long pieces from the saw.


Standard sheddist's workbench. Tools'n'stuff underneath, fastenings and odds and sods above. Vice, bench grinder and the drill stand takes my super-heavy-duty electric drill. The offcut railway line makes an excellent anvil.


A lot of my kit is 240 volt legacy stuff which doesn't particularly care for the puny 100V supply in Japan. I have a 3-phase supply which gives me 200V :ok:


Here's my special magic ingredient. I've put tops on a pair of portable platforms. They make super stable workbenches, and the overhang gives me a lip to clamp to. These are really usefull as I do a lot of stuff around my partner's factory, and that's in a neighbouring town.

OK, that's mine, lets see yours.

Lon More
17th Feb 2013, 09:17
Shed racing from Doncaster - YouTube

Bern Oulli
19th Feb 2013, 09:45
Today's Daily Wail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2280863/Not-just-store-tools-Entries-competition-reveal-sheds-transformed-warships-castles.html)has a few here, and there is a competition to enter for all you shedites.

Yamagata ken
19th Feb 2013, 11:39
Jeebus, Bern. Shed as a place to display tecups and china? What utter borrox. It's a place to a) Make Stuff, and b) repel the evil joint forces of Femdom and Liberal wetness.

Capn Notarious
19th Feb 2013, 12:06
A shed is always the place for keeping an item; that should it get thrown: will be immediately required.

Lon More
19th Feb 2013, 13:08
I've got a wasps nest in mine if anyone wants it. Personal callers only; I don't think the postie would appreciate it going in the mail.

Ancient Observer
19th Feb 2013, 13:15
Gingernut's shed and log store are in the Rolls Royce category.

Then Lib Dems will tax you on them.....

19th Feb 2013, 15:45
Bern-love the shed with the boat roof-I want one. I have to agree with the boys on this one-sheds are not the place for girlie stuff

19th Feb 2013, 18:58
Hydromet The band saw was made by "A Cooksley Engineers London" around 1920. Itís mostly used for logging, but sometimes does more creative stuff. The danger notice is an attempt to stop myself daydreaming about flying or such, while doing repetitive log sawing. :ooh: :{

Dushan The big kettle gets plugged into the red dynamo at the back. Itís my party trick for visitors to the watermill. When it is switched on the belts tighten like rods, the gears grind, the lights dim, and everything slows down. After adjustments to the waterwheel sluice, and the dynamo field coils, we get a water powered cup of tea. :8

wings folded
19th Feb 2013, 19:58
The danger notice is an attempt to stop myself daydreaming about flying or such, while doing repetitive log sawing.

But, Mr VT, you are not looking at the lethal blade, you are gazing in a sort of camera direction. Health & Safety will have you closed down in no time. No protective helmets, visors, gloves, nuclear proof overalls etc., to boot. Nifty wellies however.

(I expect you are going to tell me that the saw was not turned on at the time - ah well)

19th Feb 2013, 20:36
A shed with a difference!


Bern Oulli
19th Feb 2013, 20:48
Yamagata ken, Yes I know and agree but this was in the Daily Wail and therefore this is what the readers of this "news"paper think this is what sheds are about.

I don't buy this rag - I (read is too strong a word) - scan - the on-line version when bored.

19th Feb 2013, 21:30
Thanks VT1, I'm, jealous.

21st Feb 2013, 10:28
Here's a handy accessory for all shed owners, looks innocuous enough to casual viewers

Lon More
21st Feb 2013, 11:30
That's neat. Mine has a glass door, but I think I'll camouflage it like that. Stop people nicking my beer.

I'm surprised nobody mentioned these. Proper sheds at Cardington.


4th Jul 2013, 15:52
Located at an altitude of 750ft above sea level in the Cambrian Mountain range, mid Wales, has a recycled upturned boat for a roof and a 20w solar panel to power LED lights.
It is made entirely from recycled materials and contains a wood burner, 12v sound system, a gas cooker and a refrigerator.
From (and more at):- Shed of the Year: boat-roofed creation sails to victory - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/10157759/Shed-of-the-Year-boat-roofed-creation-sails-to-victory.html)

4th Jul 2013, 18:37
I miss mine. In fact I shed a tear for it this morning.

Ancient Mariner
22nd Jul 2013, 16:02
Finally, after 10 months of hard(ish) weekend work my shed is almost finish, just a few wheelbarrows of gravel left and one electrician and it's time for champagne.
Fully insulated and heated it will be the perfect place to prepare skiis, and to escape SWMBO with a cold one in hand.

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/DSC_9790_zps6988ee2e.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/DSC_9790_zps6988ee2e.jpg.html)

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Being an absolute novice in anything wood related I am particularly proud of some details (needed to cover shoddy workmanship).
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/DSC_9799_zps30a3eae3.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/DSC_9799_zps30a3eae3.jpg.html)

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Loose rivets
22nd Jul 2013, 18:13
Doh! I was just getting into this shed-thread, and I found a post by me! Must check the dates more.

Never did build that shed. :uhoh:

22nd Jul 2013, 23:35
AM a shed revival thread and a new Royal baby.....fantastic :)

22nd Jul 2013, 23:49
Ancient Mariner

Great stuff.

BTW, which country is that ?

Lovely scenery.

Ancient Mariner
23rd Jul 2013, 10:01
500N, that would be Norway. Place is called Gaustablikk, 20 mins drive from the "city" of Rjukan, 2 to 2.5 hrs drive from where we live. Elevation 960 meters asl, nearest mountain is Gaustatoppen at 1883 meters asl.
You can just about see the mountain in front of our cottage on this picture.
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/DSC_9792_zps13ad5135.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/DSC_9792_zps13ad5135.jpg.html)

25th Jul 2013, 22:26
There's nothing shameful about having a little one at the start, here's my first, apologies for anyone who is mad..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/gingernut123/015_zps4460d4b7.jpg

25th Jul 2013, 23:50
Some nice examples of the art - and the artists - here.

Oh what joy to have a shed of one's own, a private corner where others enter by invitation only. Where one can gaze on all the expensive tools and implements ready to be put to use at a moment's notice, well, at least a week's notice.

Mine is 6x4m, a purpose-built second attempt after having tried unsucessfully to convert the garage, where I found that cutting a sheet of plywood required moving the saw, sawhorses and the sheet out into the ramp of a driveway.

The space it now occupies is a corner of the property where we preivously had a firepit and a veg patch but which were wiped out by a minor flood. If I could have made it a metre bigger in either direction I would have.

Electrical outlets are 127v and 220v and no I've not burnt out any tools yet. I know, "yet". During the day the south-facing front windows and doors, plus two rows of glass roofing tiles, let in plenty of light. For night work there are 12x40w fluorescents.

The blue side door is so that extra long pieces of lumber can be brought in easily. Inside, shelves to stack lumber and scraps. The dogs are normally not welcome but Yves, the old Weimaraner, was recently operated on and needs special care and separate feeding from the two bullying labs.

There's not much junk although mrs b does try (just in case we need the busted chair/lampshade/printer someday) to transfer stuff that should rightly be taken to the recycling centre. Whaddaya mean, "my junk"?

May need to work a bit on getting the images in from Photobucket.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a237/broadreach/image-5.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/broadreach/media/image-5.jpg.html)


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Yamagata ken
26th Jul 2013, 14:41
Excellent broadreach, I fully approve. A table saw, drill press and good lighting. Perfect. That kennel you're making looks a little small for a lab, though. WRT to the junk-storage, I have the perfect reposte. The memsahib runs a food business, my shed opens onto the street/parking. She has declared that it needs to be clean and tidy (I'm fine with that) in order to reflect nicely on her business. Thus, no pressure to store junk.

26th Jul 2013, 15:15
My shed is doing quite well these days, thank you very much.
The last time I checked on it, the Mrs. was still inside. Must remember to let her out. Eventually. :}

26th Jul 2013, 19:15
Thanks YKen! And the kennel is really a bird feeding platform; the dogs have a cozy house of their own.

HarleyD that's serious kit and deserves a few photos; how long does it take you to make one of those motorcycles?

What I'm really waiting to see are photos of the inside of Ancient Mariner's tremendous effort. Your shed looks about the right size to turn out faerings, those beautiful West Norwegian rowing boats.

Windy Militant
27th Jul 2013, 11:18
Drove past the Cardington Airship sheds on Tuesday this week. Was a bit concerned to see a large amount of the cladding missing.
However a quick goggle showed I need not worry!
Cardington Shed 1 restoration news page (http://cardington.weebly.com/cardington-shed-1-restoration-news-page.html):ok:

27th Jul 2013, 11:43
Here you go Y Ken :ok:



The most important "fitment" in the lower picture is the Beer Fridge just behind the Punch Bag :E

Best ...


28th Jul 2013, 03:43
Coffman this is beginning to get interesting! I ooze envy for your shed surroundings, layout and space, and am curious as to what the floor's made of (rough concrete with using white cement?). But you have a lot of kit in there that has to do more with gardening than actual WORKING, be it wood or metal, viz the leaf blower, deckchair and folded sunshade, all in obviously good condition and not in need of repair. The beer fridge is of course a perfectly necessary accoutrement to a real shed and something this thread has reminded me the necessity thereof.

And another curiosity: who makes the wheeled bench saw? Never seen one before and what a neat idea for when the lumber's just too long for the shop.

Side note: two of my granchildren came to visit this afternoon and wanted to see the mysterious shed. The loose lumber scattered around and the fird feeder fascinated the 10 yr old boy and 6yr old girl. And they asked what the bench saw was for. A noisy demo was duly provided, sawing a small 3/8" ply strip into two smaller strips. Great stuff, saw shrieking away in a small space, sawdust filling the air and a piece of wood almost magically transformed into two pieces.

Later, as we all talked over popcorn about what 3D printers could do, grandkids asked what granddad could make in the shed. What would you like? said granddad. Settled on a little boat for the boy and a bird feeder for the girl, and the finishing touches of both will have to be applied with their help during the next visit. Thought it was rather encouraging coming from kids who havae all the electronic alternatives at hand.

Paraffin Budgie
28th Jul 2013, 08:12
It must be a bugger to mow the grass at Ancient Mariner's place.

Yamagata ken
28th Jul 2013, 15:04
Thanks CoffmanStarter. Your shed passes the YK test, but there's a tad too much gardening equipment for my taste. Purely personal opinion though.

One thing I've noticed is the variety of tables (low) for purpose (support). Yours are all rubbish and mine are brill.

Wobbly squarish things should be consigned to the barbecue, and replaced with these:


Folding platforms still work as platforms, but with an overlapping lid (13mm ply) make excellent stable portable work benches.

Yamagata ken
28th Jul 2013, 15:18
The pair give me any length/width I want. The lip makes clamping a doddle. The height and stability allow me to get on top of the job. And, I need to work away from home, so they fold and fit in the back of the wagon. What more could I want?

28th Jul 2013, 17:20
Hi Chaps ...

First off ... I'm temporarily housing Mrs C's garden accoutrements as I'm currently repairing her mini garden shed :ok:

Broadreach old chap ...

The wheeled table saw is a Ryobi BTS20 ... although I've removed the "elf n safety" gubbins :cool:


The floor is as you've observed ... But the long term plan is to re screed and finish with grey floor paint :ok:

Best ...


Milo Minderbinder
28th Jul 2013, 17:28
"although I've removed the "elf n safety" gubbins"

wait and see.....in six months "saw five, fingers nil....."

Ancient Mariner
28th Jul 2013, 19:12
My shed is not a Madhouse like Gingernut's, it is a Furtebu, or a Sulking Shed if you like.
This is the first one, Furtebui I, actually a crate made for some teak furniture we shipped to Norway from Singapore. Carefully removed one wall and used it as door, lasted 8 years, but way to small.
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/DSC_9851_zps61de1faf.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/DSC_9851_zps61de1faf.jpg.html)
The new one, Furtebui II is 3 x 5 meters as this is the max area before lots of paperwork kicks in
Too small to build a Fśring in Broadreach, we use it mainly for storing and preparing skiis and snowboards, for fishing and hiking equipment and odds and ends. Got some hand tools there and keep my power tools in plastic containers as I move them back and forth. Couldn't compete with HarleyD's amazing tool collection anyway.

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/DSC_9856_zpsc74bb4cf.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/DSC_9856_zpsc74bb4cf.jpg.html)

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/DSC_9857_zpsd8c9b24a.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/DSC_9857_zpsd8c9b24a.jpg.html)

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/DSC_9858_zpsa358e514.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/DSC_9858_zpsa358e514.jpg.html)

The shed is too small so some stuff had to go outside.

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/DSC_9859_zps0d79cc09.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/DSC_9859_zps0d79cc09.jpg.html)
Like Coffman Starter I've removed the "elf n safety" gubbins from my table saw, also equipped with wheels, some Japanese make, can't remember which.

And to Paraffin Budgie, I don't mow the the "lawn" nature takes care of that, I mow the roof in fall using a petrol powered buzzing thingie.

28th Jul 2013, 22:28
Thanks Coffman, I like the wheels but the base - like that of my basic B&D table saw - does seem a bit lightweight. I have to be careful it doesn't tip over when cutting a large sheet of ply. And your explanation of the garden furniture and kit is acceptable.

Milo, I've left the plastic blade protector on the saw but find it most annoying. The plastic is presumably there to protect your eyes but it gets dusty and you can't see through it to the blade, and quite often the hinge at the back catches what one's cutting. I reckon the solution found by Coffman and Ancient Mariner is probably safer than leaving it on.

Ancient Mariner, oh my! Respect! Your Furtebu is spectacular. The only mild criticism comes from Mrs b who says "that's far too clean and organised". I told her you probably spent the last two days doing precisely that and wiping every speck of sawdust off the floor for the photos. Which have provided me with some very good ideas. We have two garden sheds on the property (on a slope with the top 14m higher than the lane, 50m away), one at the top and locked for "gardening" tools, seeds and powered kit like chain saws, the other for barrows, spades and the like. Those clamps for spades and rakes are neat.

Edited to add note: YKen, like your use of the aluminium benches with the ply tops. Seems they're available in Brazil sporadically (thinks: made in China) and I'll get some when I can confirm availability. Do you recall the height when unfolded? They look around 60cm, i.e. less than my 80cm folding wood sawhorses which I'd really like to consign to the fireplace or firepit.

28th Jul 2013, 22:48
The artist Nigel Fletcher has specialised with painting sheds (amongst many other things) for many years.


Unfortunately PPRUNE won't let me post the images from his website. There are plenty more sheds.

Ancient Mariner
28th Jul 2013, 22:54
Broadreach, you've married a very wise woman and you are right. I finished the shed exterior on Saturday and spent that afternoon and today tidying up, removing stickers from and washing the widows, vacuuming and washing the floor and generally preparing the Furtebui II for inspection by my wife. If it passes muster it will fall into rapid decline as my wife will not set foot inside the shed again. :E

29th Jul 2013, 03:47
Ancient Mariner, I can only say that, if your efforts don't pass muster with Ms AM your sole recourse is to wax the best skis you have and take off for somewhere else. Best, though, to believe that Ms AM's impression from her first inspection is the one that will last and that she'll proudly let you get on with messing the place up with healthy doses of fine sawdust and noxious paint fumes, large accidental stains on the erstwhile pristine floor and the occasional swollen thumb or forefinger.

What do you do for light in the winter?

Yamagata ken
29th Jul 2013, 04:32
Broadreach. I've measured up, and the platforms stand 52cm high. They are "small" platforms, the top area is 70x30cm, you can get longer ones. I've allowed 4cm of lip all around to give me the clamping area. I had to strategically pack the underside of the top, because the top of the platform isn't truly flat. Then I rounded the corners, routed the edges, and sprayed with varnish.

Compressors are wonderful things. I spray rather than have to hand paint/varnish, so quick and easy to get a nice finish with multiple coats. Also I have 4 vehicles to switch between summer/winter tyres, so I can set the pressures correctly.

Ancient Mariner. I like your shed very much. It looks as if it has a lot of insulation. Is it heated? How much snow do you get in the winter? We get around 16 metres here, so I get to spend some time on the roof, dumping snow.

CoffmanStarter. My table saw is a Ryobi too, but probably a little older than yours. I looked at others but I particularly liked the die cast top, and it has a pair of arbors, so I can mount my jigsaw and router underneath. Like you, I've removed the guard, useless thing. I just take care to stay focussed until the blade has stopped turning.


At the back I've mounted a socket board. Everything plugs into that and I only need to run a single lead from my handy-dandy 200V supply. There is also an outlet to take the vacuum cleaner, so I can reduce the amount of dust and cuttings.


29th Jul 2013, 06:52

You must have a very honest society there with items hanging
on the outside of the shed.

It would be great to live somewhere like that.

Ancient Mariner
29th Jul 2013, 08:25
Broadreach, the shed is primarily to allow me to have a quiet coffee & cigarette indoor during winter and a cold beer in the shade in the summer. I'll be having electricity installed soon, could have done myself, but my certification does not include land based installations.
Yamagata Ken, yes it is fully insulated, floor, ceiling and walls as well as under the concrete foundation to stop settlings from frost, 10 to 20 cm depending on. Windows are double glazed. It will be heated since it makes waxing x-country skiis much easier and some of the paint and chemicals stored must be kept frost free. We get a fair amount of snow up here, can't say how much in a season, but in the terrain up to 2 - 3 meters, but nowhere near as much as you do.
The roof is designed for a load of 700 kg/sqm and I've added some to make sure.
500N, a fairly honest society, but we have the occasional burglarly. Our cottage is one of 80 and the road is privately owned by us and hence controlled by a gate which can be remotely operated by cell phone or by key if required.
For insurance purposes I have a padlocked steel wire running between the bikes and sleds, or I will have, eventually...when I get around to it...sometime. I have other projects in the pipeline that are more fun.

wings folded
29th Jul 2013, 08:36
All these "sheds" are not really sheds at all.

They are so tidy, clean, sterile even, that you could carry out heart bypass surgery in them.

A proper shed is so overwhelmed with random bits and pieces that it is hard work getting around in it.

Ancient Mariner
29th Jul 2013, 08:57
Time, Wings Folded, time. Give me a few weeks and the shed will be as you specify.

wings folded
29th Jul 2013, 09:03
I grant you the time it takes, A M; a proper shed owner has also the virtue of limitless patience.

Yamagata ken
29th Jul 2013, 14:27
Ancient Mariner We get a fair amount of snow up here, can't say how much in a season, but in the terrain up to 2 - 3 meters, but nowhere near as much as you do.

We need to pay attention to snow here.

This is the memsahibs' factory (left) and the car park (right)


Standard overnight snowfall


This is what it looks like in town.


And up in the mountains


30th Jul 2013, 01:47
There was a moment, when I saw Ancient Mariner's shovels and spades clipped on the outside wall of the Fertebu, when I said to myself, this is impossible, nothing's been used, it's all brand new. But then, why not have new kit when installing a new shed? Start from scratch fcs.

I then thought of facetiously suggesting YK borrow that brand-new snow shovel from AM for the coming winter. And then, of course, YK's latest photos came in. Feggeddit.

Took the annoying blade guard off the bench saw this afternoon.

Ancient Mariner
30th Jul 2013, 06:39
Only the snow shovel is brand new, Broadreach. The last one broke its blade last winter. The pointy shovel looks new, only because the blade is polished from me shifting 5 tons of gravel in the last weeks. :hmm:

30th Jul 2013, 06:45

That snow along the road, when it starts to melt, is that when it is most
dangerous and huge chunks fall off into the road ?

I have only ever driven on one road like that here in Aus at a Ski resort.
Wasn't quite as tall as that or as compact but still impressive.

dubbleyew eight
30th Jul 2013, 15:47
I will give you guys with saw benches missing the "'elth and safety gubbins" a tip.
The 'elth and safety stuff is a pox so it is removed from my saws as well.

when making a cut never look away from the saw blade.
look at the saw blade! always!
if you do this you will never accidently sweep a finger through the cut.

if I could ever work out where to site the photo I would show you a real shed.

30th Jul 2013, 17:45
Well, it's in my shed.............

The first thing I did when I bought ny mower, before I'd even started it for the first time, was tie that damn fool elf & safety engine cut-off bar to the main bar.

30th Jul 2013, 22:57
Ancient Mariner, re gravel shoveling, I should have expected that riposte! Power to your elbow etc and Per Ardua ad Astra. I usually buy mine in poly bags that one can carry, and a truck delivers to the driveway. Looking forward to your photos a fortnight from now.

dubbleyew eight, sufficient unto the day your braggadocio: put thy photos on trippelyew dot photobucket dot com and show us how it's really done. Agree entirely with your "keep your eye on the blade" though. And use pushers to guide the wood through the saw and allow no distractions like wimmin to enter the domain when you're at it. So to speak.

Yamagata Ken, that is serious snow and I echo 500N's concern over falling blocks. What happens when you are truly snowed in, does shed work stop altogether?

Yamagata ken
31st Jul 2013, 03:58
Apropos saw guards, I'm not entirely happy about removing mine, but it was a menace. I'm very conscious of trying to stay focussed while the blade is still turning (not just when I'm cutting). I use a push stick, oh yes.

500N and broadreach. That mountain road photo was taken in May, shortly after the road to Gassan ski jo (area) was opened. Gassan is closed in winter as they can't keep up with the snowfall. The season there runs May to August-ish. As far as I'm aware the walls are stable enough to be safe.

I don't do much shed work in the winter unless I can avoid it. I only have a kerosene heater, and I'm mostly occupied with moving snow. The climate here is maritime, it never gets continental-style cold. The winter weather pattern comprises continuous NW winds flowing out from the Siberian High which then cross the Sea of Japan and load up with moisture. There's about a 1000km fetch so we get a mega- lake effect. It usually starts snowing in late December and stops in early March.

We never get snowed in. We have systems in place, and the local authorities are well equipped and well organised. The snow plough (they use wheeled loaders fitted with a blade rather than a bucket) comes through around 4am, I'm up at 5 and loaded with tea and ready to start at 5:30.

The system is this. The stormwater drains are oversized, and fitted with hatches. River water is pumped to the highest point in town, and flows back into the river. We get three-two hour sessions per day. Water comes on at 5:30, open the hatch, start dumping snow and it's gone. Just like magic. Everyone in town clears their own patch of frontage, the footpaths, and the line of snow pushed into the gutter by the snowplough. It's like a scene from a Bruegel painting: hooded figures everywhere, going about their business in the snow and the half-dark.

We're on a corner block so I get to clear a double frontage :(, but I have this :ok:. A yukios (snow pusher), which can push about 6 times more snow than I can.

Typical overnight snowfall, clearing in front of the shop. Gutter filled with ploughed snow. The marker poles are 2.3 metres high.


Here's the lunchtime session. About 15cm snowfall during the morning, and the hatch open.


That's at home. Some days I have to go to the factory to clear snow there. Then there's the shed roof, and sometimes I have to go up on the roof at home (3 stories) and clear the ice/snow tongue hanging off the gutter :{

31st Jul 2013, 04:47
Re saw guards; when I was doing my Fine Woodwork Cert., we were taught that real safety had nothing to do with saw guards. The tablesaw at the school never had a guard on it (though they've fitted one since). My tablesaw only has a guard when I'm ripping, as it's attached to the splitter, which is a much more important piece of safety equipment.
The most important piece of safety equipment on a tablesaw, or any piece of equipment, is your brain. I'm a fanatic about workshop safety, so my saw blade has an imaginary 'red zone' around it, into which no part of me ventures while the blade is spinning. I try to do all my machine work early in the day, so I'm not using machines when I'm tired. I'm now in the habit of visualising everything before I do it, so I can foresee any problems.
Pushsticks and featherboards are your friends.

Interesting that during the year that I was studying woodwork, with 10 students in the class, the only accident to draw blood was with a handsaw. The major 'Oh sh!t' moments were when someone didn't take care to prevent kickback on the table saw, as witness the autographed holes in the wall behind it.

As for my shed, well it has a 10" TS, 17" bandsaw, 10" jointer/thicknesser, 15" drum sander, 12" disc sander, all connected to the 2hp. dust collector, plus numerous hand and portable electric tools.

dubbleyew eight
31st Jul 2013, 14:44
not one of you is restoring an aeroplane or building one in the sheds you treasure.
this is what they are supposed to look like.
messy as hell and chock full of aeroplanes being restored!


3rd Aug 2013, 00:01
Went into town to buy some drill bits and look for a drill bit depth limiter (not found), and drooled over a Makita bench saw with all sorts of extensions and an optional base with a really wide wheelbase. And wheels. Tempted to buy it on the spot but the salesman showed me how much lower the internet price is.

We build up relationships with the the people - usually guys - in shops, as we go in there time and time again to buy tools and material. We know each other by name and recognise each other in different environments, like the supermarket.

I didn't find everything I was looking for today but. Had en enjoyable few hours looking.

dubbleyew eight
3rd Aug 2013, 03:46
broadreach if the drill diameter is small enough try using masonry inserts as the depth limiter. they come in different colours for the different sizes.

these are an extruded plastic fluted tube poked in a drilled hole in a masonry wall so that you can screw a self tapping screw into it.

they usually come in little square packs.

the trick is used in aluminium work. you cut the rawlplug to length, push it over the drill until it butts up to the chuck. it makes a depth stop that does almost nothing to the job if you graunch into the work.

in australia we call these rawlplugs but I notice that in england a rawlplug is something different again.

3rd Aug 2013, 07:35
I didn't find everything I was looking for today But did you find anything you couldn't live without (but didn't know until you saw it?)

W8, thanks for that tip.

3rd Aug 2013, 13:44
W8 thanks, excellent tip. A lot cleaner than winding a strip of tape around the bit.

Hydromet, good guess! Isn't that really the hidden purpose of a hardware store crawl? Of course I did: a nice little Stanley finishing plane, two bags of wood dowels and a pair of corner jigs.

8th Aug 2013, 23:45
Always good to have a hound protecting those power tools http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/gingernut123/DSC_0113_zps3ee7febe.jpg

9th Aug 2013, 00:13

Nice dog.

Mine (Kelpie) is a damn good guard dog. Hears things I don't.

9th Aug 2013, 00:19
Thanks 500N, he is a star :)

John Hill
9th Aug 2013, 06:12
not one of you is restoring an aeroplane or building one in the sheds you treasure.

This is my home shed...
....where I thought I would be spending my retirement turning good metal into scrap but instead I seem to spend many of my hours in this shed...

...where we are repairing and assembling this perfectly proportioned primer painted partially preserved petrol piston propeller propelled Percival Provost. One day it will be on display in our aviation museum.

Home - Ashburton Aviation Museum - Ashburton Aviation Museum (http://www.aviationmuseum.co.nz/cms/index.php)

Yamagata ken
9th Aug 2013, 08:47
Nice one John Hill :ok:. Is that a milling machine in the centre? I've always wanted one of those. And what that in the centre foreground?

This is what has been keeping me busy for the past week. Four metres long, 2 metres high and 55cm deep. The centre divider for the roller doors makes an excellent support for getting things vertical and square.




Storage solution needed


Mission accomplished. The memsahib likes it when I'm useful, and she's a practical sort of lady.


dubbleyew eight
9th Aug 2013, 09:41
John Hill has the perfect addition to a shed. All sheds need a HANGAR :ok:
a restoration project like that will keep you young.

John Hill
9th Aug 2013, 10:20
Ken, the blue machine in the centre is indeed a milling machine, you can see a c1908 Drummond lathe on the bench to the left, the machine almost out of frame on the right is a small metal cutting bandsaw.

If you are building a home workshop for home shop scale metal working machines you need one of these...

...it is my reinforced concrete workbench being delivered and is now behind the mill, on it I have a modern Chinese 12x36 lathe, a drill press, a 10" metal cutting cold saw and a rather petite Adept power shaper.

That is some nice wood work you have done there.

W8, my shed is part of our house but the hangar is part of the airport museum. I make a lot of bits in my shed for the museum, aircraft bits (axles etc) and things like aircraft drawbars so that we can move the exhibits around.

Our restorations are for exhibition only as restoration to flying condition would be well outside our resources. On the other hand we endeavour to not do anything that might complicate someone doing more comprehensive restoration in the future. Meanwhile we keep the old planes warm and dry.

Ancient Mariner
9th Aug 2013, 10:32
I'm getting a bit envious here. Might have to look for a new house, strongly encouraged by Wifey, but I have resisted so far. Present shed is only 2x2 meters, and a bit......messy. The garage can barely fit one modest family car so plenty of incentives.
Apologies for the picture quality, forgot to check camera settings.:ugh:
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/DSC_9872_zps1170af3a.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/DSC_9872_zps1170af3a.jpg.html)

Milo Minderbinder
9th Aug 2013, 20:30
slipstream shed

Experiments in Speed on Vimeo

Big Hammer
9th Aug 2013, 20:36
looking at new 8x10 shed but thinking it will not be big enough. Wish list of what I used to have in a previous life then realised that I had a small hangar to use as a workshop. Oh well it will be useful to put the mower in. :rolleyes:

John Hill
9th Aug 2013, 21:12
There are a lot of fine projects been completed in an 8x10 shed!

10th Aug 2013, 01:58
No matter what we start out with, no shed or workshop will ever be big enough. Feet or metres, 8x10 will always be a tad small. Like the Kamm theory about drag, your need for space will cube as you build up in woodworking, garden/ski maintenance or airyplane restoration. The real drag will always be how much Ms ShedWife allows. There are, of course, ways to get around ShedWife's restrictions, as YamagataKen's subtly pointed out. Take heed.

YKen, congratulations for the storage shelves.

Ancient Mariner, that's more like it Per! I even looked for a "clutter" soundtrack to put on here but everything I found was likely to put five fingers in the exposed sawblade, too jumpy.

Gingernut, nice black lab; may post something with yellow labs rollicking in sawdust to counter.

19th Aug 2013, 09:03
:uhoh::uhoh: Thought out loud over the weekend that we should consider turning one of the sheds into a potting shed.
This link arrived about one minute after I got into the office this morning!
Potting Shed Design Design Ideas, Pictures, Remodel, and Decor (http://www.houzz.com/potting-shed-design)

Ancient Mariner
19th Aug 2013, 09:19
Always time for a new project, always the need for a new shed.
This is what I did this weekend, a new log and snow blower shed.
Must hurry up before winter arrives.

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/DSC_9912_zps7f9fb3a8.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/DSC_9912_zps7f9fb3a8.jpg.html)

Yamagata ken
19th Aug 2013, 11:05
Nice. I needed log storage when I lived in Oz (Perth). The wicked witch complained about spending a weekend splitting logs to keep the family warm for winter. No chance to build a log shelter without the evil bitch sharpening her fangs in my ankle. Somewhere to keep the snow scoop too :thumbsup:

3rd Sep 2013, 18:32
South Carolina couple cop cuffing for shed shag ? The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/03/carolina_shed_incident/)

..expansion of shed usefulness.. :p

11th Oct 2013, 20:33

Fancy spending a romantic week in a SHED? Holidaymakers paying up to £2,000 a week to stay in perfect isolation in converted timber 'boltholes' | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2454184/Fancy-spending-romantic-week-SHED-Holidaymakers-paying-2-000-week-stay-perfect-isolation-converted-timber-boltholes.html)

Lon More
11th Oct 2013, 21:58
robes; Butlins' and the like have been doing that with converted pigsties for years

12th Oct 2013, 07:32
well, but it looks lovely, doesn't it? :)

tony draper
12th Oct 2013, 08:43
Just after the war two of my uncles owned sheds called Bungalows then out in the sticks,not as posh as those one's though,my earliest memories are of weekends spent in them,the smell of Methylated spirit always triggers these brief recalls of the distant past,I was about three at the time,they must have cooked on primus stoves I reckon.

Nervous SLF
12th Oct 2013, 08:47
I hope that they didn't drink it :):)

Ancient Mariner
20th Jan 2014, 08:45
A little update on things shed.
Seems like my roof strenght calculations are holding up........so far. :suspect:
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/DSC_0905cropped_zps7ea526b7.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/DSC_0905cropped_zps7ea526b7.jpg.html)

This the final wood/snowblower shed, just needs a second coat of paint to match the cabin, will wait for summer for that.

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/DSC_0907cropped_zps5c3eeb63.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/DSC_0907cropped_zps5c3eeb63.jpg.html)

Yamagata ken
20th Jan 2014, 10:46
Thanks per.

Seems to be holding up well, but what's going to happen if you get another 50cm overnight :)

My shed roof is rated at 2m of snow, but I start getting twitchy when there's 1m or so on it. One thing I've learned living in a town where it can snow 16m in a winter: you can't afford to get behind the game. Get your clearing in first!

tony draper
20th Jan 2014, 11:02
Wouldn't it make more sense to build roofs with more of a acute slope on em in those snowy places? thus encouraging the snow to slide off before it builds up to dangerous levels?
Genuine question

Yamagata ken
20th Jan 2014, 11:13
The simple trick is to build a blade over the apex. That parts the snow, and everything slides off, no problem. The problem happens when you have nowhere to store the snow when it comes down. Then you need to park it on the roof until you can arrange to dispose of it. Ask me how I know this :(

Ancient Mariner
20th Jan 2014, 11:40
In Norway the building code will tell you how many kg/sqm you have to design your roof for. It will differ from area to area. You could probably build a roof the snow will slide off, but it would have to be very steep angles and a slippery surface. Steep angles is not practical, the max height of a shed which may be built without an permit is 2.5 meters and the area 15sqm, with an acute roof angle it would be worthless, no volume left.
Snow is also a good insulator, so I will leave it for the time being. Another meter and wet snow might make me reconsider.
The roof on the cabin is grass, on the shed it is wood. Plenty of friction on both.
Strong roofs also allows us to keep the odd cow up there. :rolleyes:
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/DSC_0889cropped_zps56e8d744.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/DSC_0889cropped_zps56e8d744.jpg.html)