View Full Version : A rambling old man!!

Bob Viking
1st Sep 2008, 16:20
I have a strange question and I wonder if anyone here can help me?!
I was having dinner with my parents last night in Bournemouth, after the airshow, and sat on the table next to us was an old timer (he said he was an ex USAF F16/18 pilot - he seemed confused himself!) with a load of flying related paraphernalia he had clearly picked up from the airshow.
Anyway, he kept grabbing any waitress that walked past and telling them very loudly (and for prolonged periods) how the police had just contacted him and said that at 19:05 (it was 20:30 at the time) a member (or ex member) of the Red Arrows (don't panic, I'm pretty sure he was mistaken) had been killed and that he was the team manager and seemed very upset.
Now, I know quite a few of the Reds and I also know what their manager looks like (and he wasn't it!).
I am pretty sure it was the ramblings of a very confused (and potentially rather drunk) and lonely old man who needed someone to talk to but can anyone either shed any light on an incident like this that occured yesterday, or one that occured in history that may have happened under similar circumstances?
As I have said, there is no need to panic since I'm pretty sure this is mostly a figment of his imagination, but it kind of got me wondering and nearly put me off my Calamari!

Jetex Jim
1st Sep 2008, 16:49

But I wonder why you come to Jet Blast to enquire about rambling old men?

Union Jack
1st Sep 2008, 16:57

Presumably because he knew that he had a better than even chance of finding whole squadrons of rambling old men on JB!:ok:


PS Present company, Beagle and Rainboe excepted of course ....

DX Wombat
1st Sep 2008, 16:59
Was it a warm, sunny day where you were? If so, it is possible he was suffering from dehydration confusion.

Jetex Jim
1st Sep 2008, 17:02
No doubt, but I think the collective noun is not squadron, but what?

a confusion of ROM, or perhaps a dribble?


1st Sep 2008, 17:15
Some years ago I was in the company of some professional racing drivers at a private drinking club 'somewhere in North London' (or it might have been South London . . . ).
An old-timer, well-oiled (despite it being mid-afternoon on a weekday), approached us and regaled us with stories of the time(s) that he 'Brooked Laplands' . . .

Capn Notarious
1st Sep 2008, 20:23
'Brooked Laplands'
Racing on Skidoos/ Fossil Fuel or Reindeer and Vegetation?

1st Sep 2008, 21:00


1st Sep 2008, 21:57
Brooklands is a disused motor racing circuit and airfield built near Weybridge in Surrey, England. It opened in 1907, and was the world's first oval-style motorsport venue. The circuit hosted its last race in 1939
Brooklands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklands)

1st Sep 2008, 22:08
The collective noun's got to be a rant of grumpy old men

Effluent Man
2nd Sep 2008, 10:54
Sounds like you should have laid off the second bottle of Calamari.

2nd Sep 2008, 11:21
I would feel sad for this old chap rather than angry with him ( although that depends on how long he banged on about it ).

Sounds like he was lonely and needed attention - any attention. Or he may have been going through a minor alcohol induced breakdown, and needed drama followed by sympathy.


2nd Sep 2008, 11:44
If he was lonely and needed attention you should have suggested he sign up to PPruNe!

He wouldn't be lonely, would get attention and everyone would believe what he said.


FOK :)

2nd Sep 2008, 11:58
And less abuse of Rambling Old Men please.

I myself have slapped liverstone, mown at flack 2 and fo sorth

2nd Sep 2008, 13:23
but can anyone either shed any light on an incident like this that occured yesterday, or one that occured in history that may have happened under similar circumstances?

As I read the original inquiry it was addressed to an ... Ummm ... Well ... EERIE ... quality in the tale. Was the old drunk just a straightforward old drunk or was he a ... I pause again ... ghostly old drunk, a revenant from another dread crash "yesterday, or one that occured [sic!] in history [in] similar circumstances"?

Naturally I felt the hairs rise on the back of my neck the moment I read that. It was the obvious explanation for the otherwise baffling presence of an old drunk at an airshow.

Clearly I am alone in this element of shudder, and I can tell you I feel pretty much let down by you all. Surely many of the spiritually sensitive ur-old drunk fanciers here can throw some light on this? Even, though this may be too much to hope for, someone might volunteer that he himself is an old drunk, perhaps THE old drunk, who infests airshows putting the wind up in observers.

It is all very well for the thread starter to reassure me and you thatthere is no need to panic , but can I be sure? Can you?

2nd Sep 2008, 13:38
All of this with due deference to those old fogies who flew in the BOB and BC, of course!! :ok:

2nd Sep 2008, 13:56
It is a curious thing that rambling old men at airshows usually perambulate in my direction. I have long put this down to all those years spent in close proximity to magnetrons and other cavity oscillators and have found that the tried and tested tin foil hat deters them.Manages to keep the CAA away too or is that the CIA? confusion settles in sometimes :(

2nd Sep 2008, 15:19
Jetex Jim wrote:
a confusion of ROM, or perhaps a dribble?

512 Mbytes? :8

Union Jack
2nd Sep 2008, 16:24
On a serious note, could it be that Bob Viking and Davaar were not too far off track and that the ROM had indeed had a Reds connection many years ago, and was referring to an accident and fatality long in the past? As most of us are aware, there is frequently much more to such an alcohol-induced situation than initially meets the eye.

On a less serious note:

"Sounds like you should have laid off the second bottle of Calamari"

Quite agree - it must have cost a few "squid"!:)


I. M. Esperto
2nd Sep 2008, 21:53
I'm 77, and I resemble that!:}

2nd Sep 2008, 22:14
Seems as tho this fable has now grown some "legs".

3rd Sep 2008, 11:43
I'm 77, and I resemble that!

And to think the general trend is that we go further right as we get older. The mind boggles, Capt Ed. Hitler Youth anyone?

3rd Sep 2008, 16:06
*"sciolist"... Noun, archaic. "a person who pretends to be knowledgeable and well informed" .

... and they (wittingly or transwittingly) morph into sciolists.

This causes one to wonder: Would an old fa*t in the Postal Service be a "mailing sciolist?"

The Real Slim Shady
3rd Sep 2008, 18:53
Surely the CAS can go out and have a drink and meal without having his every move reported here :p