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DX Wombat
31st Aug 2008, 14:44
Following a little discussion on a different thread I decided to start this one - place names spelled one way but pronounced totally differently as in these two examples:
Leominster - correct pronunciation "Lemster"
Breewood - "Brood"

Pontius Navigator
31st Aug 2008, 14:47
High Why Com Bee

and of course there is Lesster as in Chester but spelt Leicester

G-CPTN
31st Aug 2008, 15:03
Lots of examples in Scotland, but for starters, here in Northumberland, Cambois - known as Cammos.

GrumpyOldFart
31st Aug 2008, 15:09
O the Harbour of Fowey
Is a beautiful spot,
And it's there I enjowey
To sail in a yot;
Or to race in a yacht
Round a mark or a buoy
Such a beautiful spacht
Is the Harbour of Fuoy!


—Sir Arthur Quiller-Couch

west lakes
31st Aug 2008, 15:09
Some Cumbrian ones

Torpenhow - tropenna
Distington - disinton
Brougham - broom
Aughertree - offertree
Sebergham - seberham

Richard Taylor
31st Aug 2008, 15:13
Two from NE Scotland:

Strachan (pronounced "Stra'an")
Garioch ("Geerie")

G-CPTN
31st Aug 2008, 15:14
Kirkcudbright Kirkcoobray
Milngavie Mill-guy

airship
31st Aug 2008, 15:16
Nice (but pronounced niece)...
Cannes (but pronounced can)...
Antibes (but pronounced on teeb)...

CUNIM
31st Aug 2008, 15:17
Efailsafe pronounced efalisha - Wales of course:confused:

onetrack
31st Aug 2008, 15:23
It has be a race between the English and the French, as to who can mangle the pronunciation of place names the most. The English have to take some kind of prize for pronouncing, Cholmondeley .. "Chumley" and Towcester .. "Toaster". Then again, the French have places such as Arretxea and Hegoxuri .. which I dare not even try to pronounce.

At least in Australia, we play it straight down the line .. with great, simple names .. such as Mt Buggery, Intercourse Island, Hells Gate, Starvation Lake .. and the simple-to-pronounce .. Bungeworgorai .. :ok:

selfloadingcargo
31st Aug 2008, 15:23
Woolfardisworthy in Devon, pronounced 'Woolsery'

CUNIM
31st Aug 2008, 15:26
and Virgin's passage and Maiden's Water in WA

Derby is Derby not Darby
Launceston is Launceston not Lawnstun

G-CPTN
31st Aug 2008, 15:28
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
thlann vyre pooth gwinn gith gogg-erra kweern drobbooth lann tuss-ill-yo goggo gauk

Radar66
31st Aug 2008, 15:32
Alnwick - 'annick'

Beauchamp Place in London - 'beechum'

and then of course, Somerset - zoomAArsett.... :ok:

Loki
31st Aug 2008, 15:34
Beaulieu instantly springs to mind....tried to persuade an American acquaintance that it should be pronounced "b`yoolee" he wouldn`t believe me.

jetset lady
31st Aug 2008, 15:37
Cuckfield - Cookfield
Uckfield - As it sounds

For some reason though, many people reverse it and pronounce these two as Cucfield and Ookfield.

Jsl

frostbite
31st Aug 2008, 15:37
Norfolk has several good ones.

Tacolneston - 'Tackleston'

oldshuck
31st Aug 2008, 15:39
And a couple from Norfolk

Happisburgh......(hazeborough )

Wymondham.......( windem )

vapilot2004
31st Aug 2008, 15:40
Chincoteague - Chink a tink

Gloucester - Glaw-ster < local pron.

Keacoughtan - Kik-o-tan

Norfolk - Naw-fuk < local pron.

Local girls:
We don't smoke, we don't drink, Norfolk, Norfolk. ;)

singaporegirl
31st Aug 2008, 15:43
Both Magdalen College, Oxford, and Magdalene College, Cambridge, pronounced 'Maudlin'.

'Beaver' Castle, not Belvoir Castle.

Radar66
31st Aug 2008, 15:46
Goodnestone in Kent - 'gunston'

seacue
31st Aug 2008, 16:00
Beaufort, North Carolina bowfort
Beaufort, South Carolina bewfert

Perhaps [B]vapilot can tell us the local pronunciation of
Staunton, Virginia.

GrumpyOldFart
31st Aug 2008, 16:03
There's a town in SE England which is spelled 'London' but pronounced 'Lunden' ...





... and Frobisher Bay in Canada's North West Territory is pronounced
'Ick-al-oo-it' ...



:ooh:

Davaar
31st Aug 2008, 16:10
and Frobisher Bay in Canada's North West Territory

Yes and No. It was in the NWT, but the locals did not like the climate there. In fact, they would have none of it, so they moved Iqaluit, lock, stock, [note the Oxford or Harvard comma] and barrel, to Nunavut.

Standard Noise
31st Aug 2008, 16:26
My home town Bangor (NI) which is frequently mispronounced despite there being a town of the same name in Wales. It's Ban-gor not Banger.
Come to think of it, there's Northern Ireland or as we locals would say, Norn Iron.
Used to be funny in the 70s and 80s listening to English news readers read out place names in NI........

Portrush, which is Port-rush rather than Por-trush
Portglenone - Portglenown, not Port Glen 1

I'm sure I'll remember more.

Sallyann1234
31st Aug 2008, 16:27
Two places in Hampshire:

Bosham - pron Bozzum

Cosham - formerly pron Cossam but now usually Cosham

In Essex:
St Osyth - traditionally pron Toosey, but sadly now dying out.

Passing Through
31st Aug 2008, 16:34
:hmm:

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Tone
31st Aug 2008, 16:40
Felt very sorry for the Aussie lost around here and asking for directions to Luger Berugah

Tone
(Nr Lougborough)

pigboat
31st Aug 2008, 16:43
'Beaver' Castle, not Belvoir Castle.
So Justin Cyder Belvoir actually means something about her castle.

... and Frobisher Bay in Canada's North West Territory is pronounced
'Ick-al-oo-it' ...

And for goodness sake don't affront the natives spell it Iqualuit. :p

Remaining north of 60, Kangiqsualujjuaq used to be pronounced George River.

G-CPTN
31st Aug 2008, 16:51
Is Shrewsbury Shrowsberry or Shrewsberry?

Locally we have Bellingham - Belling-jam, Wark - Wahk, not War-k or Walk, Ponteland - Pon-teeland, not Pontieland, Prudhoe - Prudder, not Prud-ho

goudie
31st Aug 2008, 17:03
Braughing in Herts pronounced 'Bruffing'. Braughing sausages are very good.

621andy
31st Aug 2008, 17:04
Worcester- Wooster

Reading- Redding

Clevedon- Cleevdun (used to live there:ok:)

Which reminded me of my favourite place name of all time-

Nempnett Thrubwell:}- near Bristol, just rolls off the tongue...

G-CPTN
31st Aug 2008, 17:09
Nempnett Thrubwell is also my favourite place name. Used to live a few miles from there.

Der absolute Hammer
31st Aug 2008, 17:11
Wank, in Bavaria, Germany.
Pronounced Onanie.

green granite
31st Aug 2008, 17:21
The river Nene which changes back and forth between "neen" and "nen"

And Cirencester which used to be called (by the ruling clases:E) Cissester

chiglet
31st Aug 2008, 17:44
Why "Liverpool" as in give, when the "Liver" building as in hive? :confused:
watp,iktch

DX Wombat
31st Aug 2008, 18:07
To confuse the non-natives :E Also Maghull - M'gull, Childwall - Chillwall, Gateacre - Gat-akker. All good Scouse places :)

Two's in
31st Aug 2008, 18:10
Not just place names either, two popular mispronunciations are;

Gordon Brown - Useless Jock Twot
Des Browne - Useless Jock Twot's spineless mate (the 'e' remains silent)

Richard Taylor
31st Aug 2008, 18:15
David Milliband = Useless Sassenach [email protected]
Ed Balls = Useless Sassenach's [email protected]'s mate

Hey, works both ways - wadda ya know!! :hmm:

Fg Off Max Stout
31st Aug 2008, 18:38
River Thames anyone?

As GCPTN said the lovely town of Shrewsbury. Those who can count their arms, legs, fingers, toes, eyes, kidneys and testicles and get a total of 30 call it Shr'oh'sbury. Those who get above 15 call it Shr'oo'sbury and those who don't understand the question and can't count anyway (75% of the population at the 2001 census) call it 'shoosbree you c&nt'.

vapilot2004
31st Aug 2008, 18:51
Beaufort, North Carolina bowfort
Beaufort, South Carolina bewfert

Perhaps [B]vapilot can tell us the local pronunciation of
Staunton, Virginia.

Gladly Seacue. That would be Stan-ton, Ver-GIN-ya. :ok:

South Carolina and her neighbors are among the rare places that a gal by the name of Beula can be found. She's the purty one with the big harr over by the jukebox.

'Chuffer' Dandridge
31st Aug 2008, 18:58
Trottiscliffe in Kent, pronounced Trosley
Teston in Kent, prounounced Teestun

And apparently John Prescott is pronounced "Useless waste of space":ok:

Sallyann1234
31st Aug 2008, 19:24
I like the subtle rhyming messages on the M40 for the benefit of US visitors:

"Historic Warwick"

.

Fg Off Max Stout
31st Aug 2008, 19:48
That sign always makes me think 'histowik wowik'.

Rossian
31st Aug 2008, 19:48
A long time ago a USAF aircraft announced he was passing over "Stalbans", "Saint Albans you mean" said ATC. Ok. Further along the greenway (or whatever it's called now) the a/c announces he was leaving at Saint Rumble on the airway. "Strumble you mean" said ATC.
"For pete's sake make up your minds which way you want it to be,out" and departed in a huff.
The Ancient Mariner

ThreadBaron
31st Aug 2008, 20:08
Travelling by train, in my pauper days, between London and Aberdeen, I was sitting across from an American family. The parents were telling the children what the next stop would be. 'Burr-wick', it seemed, was the name of the town. Ever helpful I corrected their pronunciation and had them all sayin 'Beric'.

Being the smartarse that I was at the time, I then tested them by asking them to pronounce the written word 'Lerwick'. Guess what ... they got it wrong ... which was the point as I recall.:O

Radar66
31st Aug 2008, 20:46
only at the time eh Thready? ;)




**runs for the hills of Worcester- wooster**

Radar66
31st Aug 2008, 20:49
mmm and don't forget Greenwich - grennich

BAMRA wake up
31st Aug 2008, 20:59
I then tested them by asking them to pronounce the written word 'Lerwick'.

ThreadBaron, Having night stopped up there a couple of times I believe the very local pronunciation of Lerwick is 'Lerrick' - one understandable word in a (to me) unintelligible local accent!

Loads more here:
Accents and dialects of the UK (http://www.bl.uk/learning/langlit/sounds/text-only/england/byker/)

FlyingOfficerKite
31st Aug 2008, 21:21
Edinburgh - Edin - borough

Sedbergh - Sed - bur

Birkenhead - Beer - kin - ed

Trottiscliffe in Kent is a good one - as someone mentioned before - I remember that from my days living in Birling, just down the road from Snodland and not too many miles from Pratt's Bottom!

FOK :)

Keef
31st Aug 2008, 21:57
There's a Leigh in Essex, pronounced "Lee".

There's a Leigh in Kent, pronounced "Lie".

Odd lot, those Kentish folks.

Richard Taylor
31st Aug 2008, 22:20
In "Lerrick" main street (:}) a few years ago, came across a shop being renovated, complete with sign:

"WEET PENT" (Spelt that way) Isn't language wonderful, loons & quines? :ok:

Howard Hughes
31st Aug 2008, 22:35
And it's not just you Pommies either...

Arkansas - r-can-saw.;)

The late XV105
31st Aug 2008, 23:01
To me, "Buckingham Palace" is straight forward.

Given that there is no such thing as a silent letter in the Czech language and a "c" is pronounced as we would say "ts", to my Czech in-laws it becomes "Butskingham Palatseh" (with the ut in But like the ut in put)

Add that a "W" is pronounced as we would a "V", and the aforementioned "High Wycombe" becomes Higuhu Viecommabee"

Much though I enjoy using it, Lord knows what I do to their language! ;-)

Low Flier
31st Aug 2008, 23:01
Edinburgh - Edin - borough

Wrong!
It's Embra

Falkirk is pronounced Fokkuk.
The spurious "L" in the spelling is an anglisisation which was intended to be silent as in the word "walk". Kirk, of course, means church and "faw" is the old Scots words for "speckled". It refers to the original pebble-dash finish on the old church on the hill.

Linlithgow is pronounced Lithgae.
Lithgae is almost certainly the only place in the English-speaking world where it is regarded as a term of endearment and respect to address or refer to someone (of either gender) as a "black bitch".

Fg Off Max Stout
31st Aug 2008, 23:14
Fowey was already mentioned but in wonderful Cornish St Austell = Snozzle.

Loose rivets
31st Aug 2008, 23:16
If you allow a bit of slippage, the Wine Montrachet, is supposed to be pronounced Morri-shay. At least, this was told to me by one supplier. Does it ring true?

Whirlygig
31st Aug 2008, 23:32
Stannard Noise (sic), I can remember my father crying with laughter at the way a newsreader pronounced Maghera as in Bagheera, the panther in The Jungle Book, instead of Ma-her-aaaarrrghhh!!

In Norfuk, we have (apart from those already mentioned)

Costessey - pronounced Cossey
Guist - pronounced Geest
Sheringham - pronounced Sherinum
Great Yarmouth - pronounced "sh1t hole"

And in Oxfordshire, there is Kingston Bagpuize. Although I lived near there, I was never sure of the correct pronunciation as the locals used various forms but most say, "Kingston Bagpuss". Which is rather sweet!

Cheers

Whirls

asiaseen
31st Aug 2008, 23:39
Once met a guy who claimed he lived in Sinjun's Wood

henry crun
31st Aug 2008, 23:43
Sallyann1234: When was Bosham moved to Hampshire ? :confused:

Foss
31st Aug 2008, 23:51
Another Northern Ireland one is Cultra.

Not like a 007 evil enemy CULTRA, but Cultraaaw
The more 'a's the more posh you are.

Keef
1st Sep 2008, 02:11
Whirlygig: 'twas always Kingston Bagpipes when I drank there.

asiaseen
1st Sep 2008, 02:48
The delightful Derbyshire village of Tidzer, known on the map as Tideswell and my natal village of New Houghton. or Uffun.

sisemen
1st Sep 2008, 03:02
I remember once trying to work out the place that my American ex-brother-in-law was referring to when he talked about se ven o axe (Sevenoaks).

Mind you, my home town can be a bit of puzzle - Toodyay (too jay) :ooh:

TimmoWhakatane
1st Sep 2008, 03:20
My home town (or indeed most places with Maori names) can be a struggle for people to pronounce: Whakatane (F*cker-tarn-eh)

Charlie Foxtrot India
1st Sep 2008, 03:36
In Jersey two cool places are St Ouen pronounced sntwon,
and Quaisne pronounced way-nay.

I was born and bred in Winchester (pronounced WINchister not winCHESter!)

Crosshair
1st Sep 2008, 03:46
Lampasass, Texas.

Correctly: "lam-PASSUS"
In errror: "LAMPUS-ass"

Crosshair
1st Sep 2008, 03:56
Flight Services: "G'day, Flight Services."

Crosshair (newly arrived in Australia from the USA): "Hello. I'd like to file a flight plan from Sydney to Wagga Wagga" (pronounced to rhyme with Bagga Bagga).

FS: Where?

Crosshair: Wagga Wagga.

FS: Wait, let me put you on the speakerphone. You want to fly where?

Crosshair: Wagga Wagga.

FS: [Laughter of dozens.] "Wogga," mate!

gupta
1st Sep 2008, 04:15
In the Northern Territory, you'e got Wauchope = Walk-up
In NSW, its Wauchope = War-hope
(or is it the other way round?? now I'm really confused...)

Romeo India Xray
1st Sep 2008, 04:19
Mrs RIX, being a ground borne aviation professional, last week had to deal with a mis-placed SLF adamant they were going to

Lee-pad-ja "where?" Repeat several times then establish it is LIEPAJA
The local seaside resort of MAJORI often comes out of tourists as Ma-jor-ee (correct MY-ORE-EE)

List is endless and often amusing :)

RIX

ExSp33db1rd
1st Sep 2008, 05:02
Approaching the Rambouilliet VOR ( near Paris ), overheard this :

" Paris control, Qantas 9 was over Deejonn at 15, flt. lvl. 350, estimating Ramb...oo, estimating Ramb...wee, estimating Rambollocks at 45."

Paris Ctl: " er -zay agen, Qantas " Jeez, I just told'ya - Repeats "followed by very English accent saying : "That's right, cobber - you tell them " :ok:

obgraham
1st Sep 2008, 05:08
Sometimes places are pronounced just as written, "irregardless"...

Not far away is a little town, mostly of Hispanic folks.
On the map: "Buena"
Pronounced not the Spanish "Bwayna", but just "Byoo-enna".

JEMAVION
1st Sep 2008, 05:46
Barnoldswick - I'm told it's pronounced Barrick. But what is unique about the place name?

If Wymondham is pronounced Windam, is Saxmondham pronounced Sandam?

Tony Hirst
1st Sep 2008, 08:01
What about "Cholmondeley" in Cheshire.

Pronounced "Chumley"....WTF :\

gibbo568
1st Sep 2008, 08:09
Jemavion,

Barnoldswick is the home of one of the first RR jet engine factories, I think it was run by Rover or Power Jets before RR.

Apparently, the town gives the 'B' in RB 211, Rolls (Royce) Barnoldswick 211.

JEMAVION
1st Sep 2008, 08:33
Gibbo,
I didn't know about the Rolls Royce connection. The reason the name is unique though is that it's the longest place name in the UK where no letter is repeated!

oldshuck
1st Sep 2008, 08:38
No Jemavion

Saxmundham is said as she is wrote .. confused or what ?

selfloadingcargo
1st Sep 2008, 09:29
Loose rivets - I am pretty sure Montrachet is pronounced mon-rashay, with the stress on the 'mon'

onetrack
1st Sep 2008, 10:17
I've just been reminded that Scotland takes the cake (from one who had a Dunfermline mother - :rolleyes: ) ..

Quote .. "every second place in Scotland is spelt Ecclefechan and pronounced Kircubrie ..." :D

Rather be Gardening
1st Sep 2008, 10:21
And what about all the Broughtons scattered around, variously pronounced bruffton, browton, brorton (and probably more)? I suspect it's a way of stranger-spotting by the locals.

If there's a Suffolk and Norfolk, why not an Effolk and Wuffolk?

lexxity
1st Sep 2008, 10:28
Had a bit of a one at work. Pax turns up at the transfer desk wanting to fly to Leone (said in a very Californian accent). I thought to myself, but we don't fly to Sierra Leone from here, that's from LHR. Asked for the itinerary and discovered they meant Lyon. Several times a day we have Edinburgs, Edinboros, Glasgows, etc.

MarlboroLite
1st Sep 2008, 10:31
a couple of places in South Lincolnshire


Cowbit pronounced Cubit

Aslackby Pronounced Azel b

27mm
1st Sep 2008, 10:34
More from deepest darkest Norfolk:

Botesdale = Buzzdel
Foulsham = Foolsham
Bawdeswell = Boresdell

lexxity
1st Sep 2008, 10:36
Whirls I thought Sheringham was pronounced "full of retirees from else where talking about how civilized it is there"? Or is that just my Nanas friend? :}

DX Wombat
1st Sep 2008, 10:43
Foulridge - pronounced "Foolridge"
Sleap - "Slape"
Hawarden - "Harden" not Haywarden and it's NOT in Chester, not even in the same country, it's in WALES

603DX
1st Sep 2008, 10:46
A couple in Kent:

Boughton Malherbe ..... pronounced "Mallerby"

Lympne ....pronounced "Lin"



The former Prime Minister Gladstone is buried in Hawarden/Harden - not a lot of people know that - or care

Standard Noise
1st Sep 2008, 10:49
Ah yes Washing Line, sorry, Whirlygig, but then you move to Magherafelt which isn't Ma-her-aaaaghhhfelt but Maarafelt.

And one close to where I'm sitting, Coxley, pronounced Cokesley rather than Cocksley.

sitigeltfel
1st Sep 2008, 10:52
Some Fife towns spring to mind.

Kilconquhar... Kin-uk-er

Culross... Coo-rus

Anstruther... Ens-ter

Union Jack
1st Sep 2008, 11:15
If there's a Suffolk and Norfolk, why not an Effolk and Wuffolk?

Possibly because there's Essex and Wessex, not to mention Sussex, but I definitely don't recommend "Nossex"!:)

Jack

Sallyann1234
1st Sep 2008, 11:26
Sallyann1234: When was Bosham moved to Hampshire ?
You are right of course Henry, it's in West Sussex.

But guess what? Type "Bosham Hants" into Google and you get 65,100 results!

Standard Noise
1st Sep 2008, 11:29
Ah but if you type in 'Bosham West Sussex' you get 82,200!:p

Sallyann1234
1st Sep 2008, 11:29
Then there's Heathrow - pronounced "Don't you have a flight from London City?"

and Croydon - pronounced "Sorry guv I don't go south of the river!"

603DX
1st Sep 2008, 11:38
Abba: The Movie - pronounced a success

ORAC
1st Sep 2008, 11:45
Possibly because there's Essex and Wessex, not to mention Sussex, but I definitely don't recommend "Nossex"! And then there's Middlesex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_(novel))... :O

paulc
1st Sep 2008, 11:54
Also in Hants - Alresford (alls fod not al res ford)

Micheldever - (mitch elld ever not mitch eld ever (as in cleaver)

RiscOS
1st Sep 2008, 13:07
An American saying "Auckland" indistinguishable from a New Zealander saying "Oakland"

Loose rivets
1st Sep 2008, 13:08
In Norfuk, we have (apart from those already mentioned)


Don't surprise me, that. "We get our fool hair," they say, looking at a fuel station.


selfloadingcargo Loose rivets - I am pretty sure Montrachet is pronounced mon-rashay, with the stress on the 'mon'

Sounds about right. Been a long time since I had a bottle of that. "Burnt matches and old leather" I said. Later, exactly that description was published in Country Life.
Told the bloke who gave it to me to keep the next bottle and give me a cheque for charity. Should have kept it. £250 became £1,500 back to the wine merchant...who sold it for over £2,000 Daft.

Windy Militant
1st Sep 2008, 13:31
I used to annoy me ex's mum by refusing to pronounce Beaconsfield as beckinsfield.
Her horsey mates got stropped at me for pronouncing Bath like path not Baaarth and I don't think they ever realised Brissle meant Bristol! ;)

PS why is Wrougton pronounced rawton not ruffton.

wings folded
1st Sep 2008, 13:33
And why is "Birmingham" not pronounced "Bum" ?

Davaar
1st Sep 2008, 13:36
Kilconquhar... Kin-uk-er



Yes, more accurately "Kinneuchar". Supposedly after a St Connacher. This interesting "local pronunciation" is well-known to all who have not been there, from whom the locals have heard of it. These latter themselves, however, know the place as, Yes!, "Kilconquhar".

Loose rivets
1st Sep 2008, 15:34
Somebody please remind me of the vast and preposterous spelling of the name Featherstone or Fetherstone...you know, the one with gh in it.

Union Jack
1st Sep 2008, 16:58
LR

Presumably you mean Featherstonehaugh, which allegedly can be pronounced in any of the following ways: "feather-stun-haw", "feerston-haw", "feston-haw", "feeson-hay" or, if you're in hurry) "fan-shaw"!

All a bit like Houston - "Hooston" in Scotland (the original!), "Hewston" in Texas, and "Howston" in NYC .....

Jack

Halfbaked_Boy
1st Sep 2008, 17:15
Two from near me - we have Towcester (which has already been mentioned is pronounced 'toaster'), and Olney, which is locally pronounced as 'oh-nee'.

Jack

Rule3
1st Sep 2008, 18:44
In Western Australia...Albany...is Al-ban-ee
In New South Wales...Albury....is All-bree
and
In WA....Laverton...is....Laver{as in Rocket Rod}...ton
In Victoria.....Laverton...is Lavver....as in hot and sweaty{with a lisp}...ton

We're a weird mob mate.:ok:

obgraham
1st Sep 2008, 18:56
Rivets, next time you have a bottle of that Montrachet sitting around, I'll be glad to take it off your hands.

Not fair that such a nasty nation can make such good wine.
And as for crazy pronunciations, well, France is hard to beat!

G-CPTN
1st Sep 2008, 18:56
But is your (Oz) Newcastle NEW-cassel or New-CASSEL?

asiaseen
1st Sep 2008, 20:41
And why is "Birmingham" not pronounced "Bum" ?

too close to the truth?

603DX
1st Sep 2008, 21:00
Probably for the same reason that Birmingham University Medical School (acronym BUMS) is actually called University of Birmingham Medical School (acronym UBMS - disappointing, isn't it?)

NRU74
1st Sep 2008, 21:10
Same reason the Women's Institute in Ugley Herts was known as the Women's Institute [Ugley Branch]

603DX
1st Sep 2008, 21:24
Ooh, we have a rich vein here ....... A similar word reversal is used to spare blushes in the Women's Institute at Loose, near Maidstone, Kent, which is NOT called the Loose Women's Institute - the spoilsports!

It's actually pronounced LOOZE, anyway.

B Fraser
1st Sep 2008, 21:32
And why is "Birmingham" not pronounced "Bum" ?

Strange ......... when it is only fit for passing through ;)

East Fulham - Chelsea
Wandsworth - Chelsea on Sea
Earls Court - North Chelsea

and
Stockwell - St Ockwell

Sir George Cayley
1st Sep 2008, 22:59
Listen carefully to the weather guessers on the telly. They have invented
Northey Stingland
Southey Stingland, and
Eees Stingland.

Where the **** are they?

Went through Sussex recently and a local pointed out that place names that end in the letter y are pronounced "eye"

So Ardingly (ardinglee) is Ardingleye
East Hoathly (Hoathlee0 is East Hoathleye

Bur Shoreham is pronounced Effing expensive.

Sir George Cayley

G-CPTN
1st Sep 2008, 23:07
The proposed City University, Newcastle-upon-Tyne was, instead called Northumbria University . . .

Pitts2112
2nd Sep 2008, 01:28
Beaufort, North Carolina bowfort
Beaufort, South Carolina bewfert [bew like b'you]


And that very Seriously caught me out one time. Needed to abandon ship on a cruise gone bad. Original plan was to help a guy I knew sail his yot from Florida to NYC over a week or so, but he turned out to be a lead character in a Stephen King novel, so about mid-trip I decided it was time to be off. Looked at chart of where boat owner was heading and thought, "I've heard of Beaufort, so it must be a sizeable enough town for deserting. I'm sure I can jump ship and be on a plane to DC in a few hours. I'll hook up with some mates there."

Well, let me tell you, there's a world of difference between Beyoofert and Bowfert. Beyoofert is probably a nice town with an airport, bus station, taxis, and more than one restaurant. Bowfert is a hick-filled sh!thole with only one bar that plays nothing but country music, no train station or rent-a-car place, an airport with fewer CAT flights than Popham, and a bus station with a bus that leaves once a week but doesn't go anywhere (at least the voice message on the answering machine only said it left on Tuesday mornings but no mention of where it went). To be fair, I can see why. If you're taking a bus out of Bowfert, it really doesn't matter where it's taking you as long as it's taking you out of Bowfert!

But the other funny thing was the only car rental place nearby was over the bridge in Moorehead city. But they wouldn't let you take the cars anywhere one-way. You had to bring it back to them in Moorehead city. I completely understand why. Because if you brought in a load of rental cars and let them go one-way, you'd be out of rental cars in about 20 minutes and you'd never see any of them again. And there sure as hell isn't anyone going to be driving one INTO town, that's for damn sure!

It took nearly two days to figure out how to get the hell out of there! Chr!st I might as well have been on Antbloodyarctica for the proximity I had to civilisation! There are more frequent flights, and better connections, out of McMurdo-friggin-Station!

Take it from me. You really, really, really don't ever want to get stuck in Bowbloodyfert, Nawth Cahlina!

ExSp33db1rd
2nd Sep 2008, 02:10
but I definitely don't recommend "Nossex"!http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/smile.gif

How about Bissex then ? Seems to me that everyone's going there these days - when will the present lot make it compulsory ?

seacue
2nd Sep 2008, 03:05
Pitts2112,

I, too, left a yacht at Beaufort, North Carolina. But it was planned and with no hard feelings.

I didn't think the town was all bad, BUT it's hard to escape the place.

The nearest real airport with airline service is at New Bern, an expensive taxi ride away. And the air fare to DC was high. New Bern airport seemed to specialize in separating "our boys" from the nearby US Marines base from their money. While pay phones are required to allow use of phone cards, those at the airport did not. One had to use cash and pay exorbitant prices. Just one symptom.

gupta
2nd Sep 2008, 05:22
GC

Same reason that the University of the Northern Territory was quickly renamed the Northern Territory University - to spare the Chancellor the embarrassment

27mm
2nd Sep 2008, 10:14
Rather like Cambridge University Netball Team, who presumably were not allowed to wear their sweatshirts....

groundhand
2nd Sep 2008, 10:15
and in Northumberland...

Ulgham as uffum

onetrack
2nd Sep 2008, 10:47
And why is "Birmingham" not pronounced "Bum" ?Because .. "arse-end of the Earth" rolls off the tongue better .. ;)

ExSp33db1rd
2nd Sep 2008, 10:54
The Persian Gulf was the A***hole of the Empire, and Basra was 100 miles up it !

Them were the days !

pubsman
2nd Sep 2008, 11:02
ATHELSTANEFORD (village in East Lothian where the Saltire was first adopted) is referred to as ELSHINFORD.

wings folded
2nd Sep 2008, 11:25
Somebody rather grim had an influence on naming Grimsby, but it was somebody quite different who had an influence on naming Scunthorpe

hailstone
2nd Sep 2008, 11:46
Tuc-son, err Tus-con comes to mind as well :ugh:

waldopepper42
2nd Sep 2008, 13:26
A couple near me:

Bolsover - Boser
Calow - Kayler
Eyam - Eem

Wasn't there once a folk band called Chormundley and Featherstonehaugh "Chumley and Fanshaw"?

and one from a French friend who always insisted on pronouncing Montreal "Monrayal". Although, since it's mainly French speaking he's probably correct and the rest of the world is wrong!

frostbite
2nd Sep 2008, 15:42
Recently amused by a French pilot approaching the Isle of Sheppy, reporting "abeam Sheepy".


(so it's not just the Welsh do that)

olympus
2nd Sep 2008, 17:01
Landed at Lydd once just as a Balbo of Dutch (or possibly German) aircraft all called up for start-clearance to Lie-chester (presumably Leicester)

olympus
2nd Sep 2008, 17:14
Just remembered a flight I operated out of Vienna to UK, working Munich and approaching MOOCE waypoint the female controller asked how would I pronounce it. 'Moose' said I; couldn't think of any other way!

GrumpyOldFart
2nd Sep 2008, 18:27
Tywardreath lies between Foy and Snozzle. The locals called it Tower-dreth. One conductor on the 67 bus used to announce it as 'Tired-to-death', though.

n5296s
2nd Sep 2008, 21:09
I was on a shuttle bus at LHR once when a young Scandinavian lady popped her head in the door and asked the driver if this was the bus for MilTONkins. It took a while to figure out where she wanted to go (but anyway the answer would have been no because it only went to the car park).

Slightly off topic, but there is a sort-of club in France of the mayors of towns with embarrassing names. My favourite is Arnaq-la-Poste, which means "hold up the post office", but Moncul (sp?) is a pretty good one too (means "my a*$e").

n5296s

dead_pan
2nd Sep 2008, 21:28
Slightly off-thread again, but some oxymoronic place names:

Lower Upham (is there an Upper Loham?)
Greater Manchester??

merlinxx
2nd Sep 2008, 21:47
OK-

Slaugham = Slafam

Thread drift:

Why are the 'Downs' up from the valleys (weald) below, why aren't they called 'UPs'

asiaseen
3rd Sep 2008, 00:57
towns with embarrassing names

as, just north of Lyon, Ars. It has (or had) a famous Cure (the e with an acute accent)

G-CPTN
3rd Sep 2008, 01:07
No Place - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Place)
Pity Me - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pity_Me)
Once Brewed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twice_Brewed)
WITTS END EVERSHOLT MILTON KEYNES MK17 - House Prices (http://www.houseprices.co.uk/witts-end-eversholt-milton-keynes-mk17/)

asiaseen
3rd Sep 2008, 08:27
Land of Nod, pronounced Zzzzzz, near Holme-on-Spalding-Moor

Runaround Valve
5th Sep 2008, 06:53
In the north of New South Wales in Australia is a place Goonoo Goonoo.This is pronounced as Gunny Gur-noo.
In the south of the state is the town of Canowindra, the place for hot air balloning. It is pronounced as Car-noun-dra.

CATIII-NDB
5th Sep 2008, 11:21
"Arse end of the Earth indeed" - How dare you describe the place of my birth and two attempted muggings , one actual, as a Tip - The leafy glades of Aston, the Onion Fair (Before it was built on - Long Acre ! ) & Neechels & Saltley - Powerhouse of Victorian Birmingham . Its called brum because it ryhmes with Slum. A once important place of engineering excellence (A needle to A Battleship) - Now a post industral / Shopping centre - A Bit like the rest of the UK. Sad toi relate - See the seperate Thread on uneducated Politicians elseware on PPRUNE.

Ah! the choking smell of Coal Gas.

CATIII

mmeteesside
8th Sep 2008, 17:49
Marske is fairly near me - pronounced "Mask" - don't know why.

And of course there is Eaglescliffe - which was originally Egglescliffe (original village still stands just outside Yarm) but was spelt wrongly :confused: by British Rail as Eaglescliffe and therefore it is now known as Eaglescliffe! :ooh:

Barkly1992
9th Sep 2008, 02:15
Many years ago an exchange of calls between Flight Service and a US airforce large aircraft flying Sdney - Melbourne was asked for its position as it approached a reporting point - Marulan - pronounced Mar - oh - lan.

The US aircraft reported in a southern drawl that he was "On top of Marilyn right now."

FS: "You are so lucky - "

They didn't get it.

reynoldsno1
10th Sep 2008, 02:27
Puke Puke in NZ - pronounced Pookey Pookey - apparently has a large budget to replace the town signs at regular intervals - they seem to go missing during the tourist season ....

Richard Taylor
10th Sep 2008, 08:12
Re the stolen signs for Puke Puke (makes you sick :yuk:), we have a village in NE Scotland called LOST which, if you tried to find the place you really WOULD end up lost...as the direction signs kept getting nicked!

PPRuNe Radar
10th Sep 2008, 10:25
Some more Scots ones

Culzean, a lovely castle estate in Scotland, pronounced Cull-ain.

Balluchillish, nice couple of lochside villages near Glencoe (North and South Ballachullish), pronounced Bala hoolish.

Drymen, used as a visual reporting point by pilots, pronounced Drimmin, not Dry-men.

Findochty, a fishing village in Moray, pronounced Finechty.

Garioch, Aberdeenshire village, pronounced Geery.

Wemyss Bay, where you get the ferry to Rothesay, promounced as Weems Bay and Rossay.

Plenty more, especially when you delve in to the Gaelic and Norse derived names here.

Ken Borough
10th Sep 2008, 10:32
Not too far from Tamworth in northern New South Wales is a small village named Goonoo Goonoo. It is pronounced "Gunny Goon-oo".


Who says that Australians aren't a weird mob?

JEMAVION
11th Sep 2008, 06:28
The name Muckleflugger always amuses me. Was the most nortuerly lighthouse in the UK I believe.

Arm out the window
11th Sep 2008, 06:45
A couple more Aussie ones from near where I grew up:

Wakool (pr. War cool)
Koondrook (with the 'oo's sounding as they do in 'foot'"

There are also some rivers round the place that don't exactly roll off the tongue - Wonnangatta and Wongungarra, or the Goodradigbee - PNG students on helo course in Canberra had a lot of trouble with that one "Crossing the goodra ... goodrabidgee ...aaah ... um ..." ATC: "Yep, we know what you mean."
Beaufort in Victoria was also a tricky one for those guys (we said it Bowfort, but Byoofort was how they usually read it).

unclenelli
11th Sep 2008, 17:51
MMETeesside

Just above Stokesly there is Chop Gate

Pron "Shop Yatt"

Runaround Valve
13th Sep 2008, 07:50
The poster made the comment that Aussies are a 'weird mob'.
So here is another one for him.
About the border between New South Wales and Queensland in Australia and near Stanthorpe, is the Boonoo Boonoo National Park.
It is pronounced as Bunna Bunoo.

Runaround Valve, an Aussie !!!

radeng
13th Sep 2008, 18:06
Wiltshire has a Leigh, pronounced Lye, too. GB has 'promise', pronounced 'lie.'

There's also 'Minety' in Wiltshire, which used to be pronounced 'Minty', but is now generally pronounced as you'd expect

I was once called by the company travel agent. She said 'I have your tickets for Jonkoping'

I said 'Where?'

She pronounced it as 'John-copping'

The nearest I can get to the correct Swedish is 'yernsherping'

But Swedish place names are a great source of mispronunciations for the English speaker - Ystad, pr. Eestad. Gothenburg as 'Yerterberry' and so on.

Um... lifting...
13th Sep 2008, 19:47
If there's a Suffolk and Norfolk, why not an Effolk and Wuffolk?

You've got Middlesex... Essex... Sussex... Wessex... isn't there a Nossex? Or does that just go without saying?

In the colonies, you've got Cairo, Illinois.
"What do you folks do here in Ky-ro?"
"Name of the town is Care-O."
"You know, there's a very large city in Egypt spelled the same way, they pronounce it Ky-ro."
"Not in Care-O they don't."

Hawaii has got Kaaawa... which is pronounced about how it looks, with four syllables.

LTAfan
13th Sep 2008, 23:30
The state of New Mexico has a few too. Albuquerque (AL-ba-ker-kee) of course, but also Abiquiu (AB-i-kyew). Truth or Consequences is often abreviated "T or C" -- which many tourists pronounce as "Tork."

Assawoman, Virginia, is pronounced exactly as it appears, so I won't mention it in this thread. :hmm: