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flash8
23rd Aug 2008, 21:40
http:////www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/world/europe/24crete.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/world/europe/24crete.html)

“They scream, they sing, they fall down, they take their clothes off, they cross-dress, they vomit,” Malia’s mayor, Konstantinos Lagoudakis, said in an interview. “It is only the British people — not the Germans or the French.”

What surprises me is this is news :confused:

For all my rather extensive traveling throughout the world - virtually every single bar brawl I have witnessed either involved a Brit or Aussie.

brickhistory
23rd Aug 2008, 21:54
either involved a Brit or Aussie.

There's a difference?!






Sorry, it was a two-fer, had to do it.......

tony draper
23rd Aug 2008, 22:13
Well the Cousins generaly get into the brawl as well, but they are usually late.:rolleyes:

brickhistory
23rd Aug 2008, 22:51
Well played, sir.














Not spelled well, but played...

Strelnikov
24th Aug 2008, 00:09
I've always fancied "bar room brawling" as the "home" tourney event in 2012.

Rules are:

- teams of six
- home team nominates the brew of which the protagnists must drink 10 pints of before engaging
- no sharp edges or objects allowed (bar stools wrapped in padding etc)
- well, thats it more or less it really.

Brits and Commonwealth nations will be in the box seats for this (Aussies, Kiwis, Bokkes).

The North American cousins need not bother - at the first taste of a 7% abv English "triple nasty" and they'll be in the toilets having a good barf.

Russians would make interesting outsiders due overwhelming hepatic capacity.

Brian Abraham
24th Aug 2008, 02:44
An upcoming Olympic sport?

con-pilot
24th Aug 2008, 02:54
The North American cousins need not bother - at the first taste of a 7% abv English "triple nasty" and they'll be in the toilets having a good barf.


Ah, proud on how much you Brits can drink huh? Well, I guess you need to be proud of something. Who would have thought that the English would now be proud of getting drunk and barroom brawling. :(

I guess that explains why English football fans have been banned all over Europe from going to football games.

Not the England I grew up in, I can tell you that.

x213a
24th Aug 2008, 04:37
Con Pilot,

I'm not denying we Brits do have an element of the population who should not be allowed out of their houses, let alone abroad but - You can guarantee any group of Brits in say Turkey or Greece will receive provocation from gangs of locals all intent on starting a fight. The police will always side with the locals resulting in many injured / hospitalised Brits and a nice headline giving an alternative story.

I speak from experience from being docked in Turkey and Greece several times, "Go home nato bastards!" was common graffiti to be seen (it was in 2002/03). Marmaris in Turkey for example...we had to meet at a designated drop off point for transport back to the dockyard a few miles away. We were not allowed through the dockyard unescorted and had to take the designated transport. The locals fed like crows at that drop off point picking out lone matelots waiting for the bus. The whole flight of one of our RFAs got filled in one night and had to be casevac'd back to the UK after an initial hospital stay. The flight observer (female) had a paving slab bounced off her head. Not one mention in any news about that.

I remember locals turning on us in Kalamata for no reason. The police joined in with the locals who started throwing food and drinks at a group of the ship's company who were all sat round one table. When remonstrated with all hell broke loose and a cavalry of Greeks on mopeds appeared punching anybody they could. The police then started with truncheons on the ship's company as well. The ship was berthed directly opposite the bar in question and at one point the QM made ready his weapon such was the danger he thought our lads were in. Very nearly causing a major diplomatic incident in the process.

Yes, we do have some pillocks in Britain but you can guarantee other countries have them also. Cowardly ones at that.

AMF
24th Aug 2008, 07:06
Strelnikov
The North American cousins need not bother - at the first taste of a 7% abv English "triple nasty" and they'll be in the toilets having a good barf.

That's because English beer is shiite. Real beer and beer drinkers come from Germany, where german Immigrants settled and immediately set up breweries in the upper Midwest of the U.S., or Canada. For all their talk, in a beer-drinking contest I'd put my money on any 17-year old Canadian girl over a Brit, Aussie, or Kiwi.

Meanwhile , I'll observe your Olympics drinking good old North American products in the form of bourbon or tequila, but if I'm feeling particularily "International" that day, Scotch.

As a sidenote, the last time I saw a group of drunk Brit guys in the U.S. (Florida) they were drinking girly-flavored jello-shots while making a spectacle of themselves like it was their first time away from home. They didn't leave with any girls...not even drunk ones...I might add.

merlinxx
24th Aug 2008, 07:24
Though I is a Brit, I'll never take on a bunch of Newfies ever again, been 'Screeched In' too many times!

Put a few Newfies & a few Russians together, an extremely happy/fall over time ensued , but no punch/throw up!

AMF
24th Aug 2008, 07:55
tony draper Well the Cousins generaly get into the brawl as well, but they are usually late.

We see it as "arriving not a moment too soon" for those we decide to throw in with, for we know without doubt we'll be villified for showing up early, or for even showing up at all.

I for one avoid bar brawls while drinking anywhere in Europe for the simple fact you can almost be sure nobody is going to pull a gun, not only in the heat of the moment inside the establishment, but later from a car/truck out in the parking lot. What's the fun? Where's the adrenalin rush when no chance for gunfire erupting exists? All you get when drunk idiots try and throw punches is a lot of spilled drinks and wrestling around with no Final Solution. A knife fight is ok to watch but only involves those doing the fighting, whereas gunfire issued forth by an inebriated hand has a tendency to go only in the general direction of the target, thus getting everyone in on the action.

flash8
25th Aug 2008, 11:38
You Yanks love Guns. Its a natural obsession. Deep in your psyche.

I'd hazard a guess that most people in the UK have never seen a gun in their lives and thank god for that.

The US can never return to a gun-free society (even if it ever was) simply due to the number of weapons in circulation. You made your own bed, and now, for better or worse, you'll have to live with it for eternity.

Over here - we had that choice - and we made the right one - from the start!

angels
25th Aug 2008, 12:07
While on a footy tour in the Netherlands (Scheveningen) many moons ago one of my mates pulled a real looker in a bar. They were getting on famously until her husband walked in with a sawn off shotgun, which until then I'd thought was the preserve of East End blaggers.

Even the locals thought this a bit OTT and they disarmed him although the gun did discharge a barrel during the struggle as I moved in the direction of away. No-one was hurt and the chap was led off to I know not where.

ORAC
25th Aug 2008, 12:29
Who would have thought that the English would now be proud of getting drunk and barroom brawling.

Beer Street & Gin Lane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Lane)

goudie
25th Aug 2008, 14:31
I've never understood why the English are so violent when they are in a foreign country. Must be our German genes, or possibly our French ones!

Parapunter
25th Aug 2008, 14:49
Young men & beer. Seems it's not just an English thing

YouTube - Spring Break Fight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtQtdKNma6s)

Evening Star
25th Aug 2008, 16:06
Put a ... few Russians together, an extremely happy/fall over time ensued , but no punch/throw up!

Funny thing, when na Rossiya in the bars I never feel wary of drunken groups. Even a group of youths in the street do not cause any concern. I am sure problems do happen and to be sure I did witness a fight between two women in a bar at New Year. However, this was such a rarity that everybody viewed it with surprise, the protagonists were packed off to their respective homes and the rest of their table (next to mine, so could eavesdrop the conversation;)) carried on as normal. And in nearly seven years that is the worst I have seen ... long way from my experiences when back home in Blighty.

con-pilot
25th Aug 2008, 17:09
Young men & beer. Seems it's not just an English thing

It looks more like security stopping a fight before it really gets started. However, you are 100% correct that it is not just an English thing.

ORAC, I am familiar with that painting and some others along the same lines. For some reason I became very interested in introduction of gin into English society and the ramifications that gin caused in the lower classes. I will not post my conclusions as it would probably cause a bit of controversy with some of the Brits here.

Personally can't stand the stuff, I'll stick to that good old American elixir, Scotch. :p

tony draper
25th Aug 2008, 17:28
Perhaps we should go in for dueling or rather should one say allow dueling such as those young German University chaps go in for, a few dueling scars,no worse than those feckin tattoos or body piercing
We could make it a Olympic Sport.:)

West Coast
25th Aug 2008, 18:58
If rhythmic gymnastics made the cut you might have a chance drunk team dueling would make the cut. Personally I think ostrich wrestling should be the next Olympic sport.

flash8
25th Aug 2008, 21:13
Funny thing, when na Rossiya in the bars I never feel wary of drunken groups. Even a group of youths in the street do not cause any concern. I am sure problems do happen and to be sure I did witness a fight between two women in a bar at New Year. However, this was such a rarity that everybody viewed it with surprise, the protagonists were packed off to their respective homes and the rest of their table (next to mine, so could eavesdrop the conversation) carried on as normal. And in nearly seven years that is the worst I have seen ... long way from my experiences when back home in Blighty.

I know Moscow pretty well. I know the bars even better. Never seen any trouble in a bar in 10 odd years of living or working in Moscow or surrounding ex Soviet countries - never ever*. Never seen any rowdiness on the streets - never ever.

The Russians are extremely well behaved even if drunk.

Mind you... so are the rest of the world - this is definitely a British-Aussie-Kiwi thing!

* Brits excepted.

tony draper
25th Aug 2008, 21:49
It's a genetic thing, yer Anglo Saxon is belligerent warlike chap, you see, nature intended us to rule the world, we very nearly got there as well, until some buggah gave the natives rifles,nature didn't plan for that ,they was just meant to have spears.
:( :rolleyes:

brickhistory
25th Aug 2008, 22:05
they was just meant to have spears.


"Thousands of 'em, sahr!"

con-pilot
25th Aug 2008, 23:35
I know Moscow pretty well. I know the bars even better. Never seen any trouble in a bar in 10 odd years of living or working in Moscow or surrounding ex Soviet countries - never ever*. Never seen any rowdiness on the streets - never ever.

Really. ;)

YouTube - Drunk Russian Brawl In Town Fountain (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aIA4100KHbc)

Found that in 30 seconds. :p

Evening Star
25th Aug 2008, 23:37
Never mind the spears, the Empire was bringing refinement and gentility to the world while the sons of Rus were still riding across the steppe (although, of course, some of the refinement etc was achieved by exporting the criminals and religious maniacs westwards:ok:)

galaxy flyer
26th Aug 2008, 00:19
with regards to Moscow, they may not have rowdiness (didn't view the YouTube, C-P), but they other forms of "entertainment". A friend of mine leaving an nice saloon, was offered a ride (read: grabbed by the jacket and hauled in); once on the ride the driver and friends asked for his wallet and money. Once that was handed over, he was "released", without benefit of using the car's brakes. OUCH! So, I'll view the rowdiness, thanks.

GF

Romeo India Xray
26th Aug 2008, 09:25
Going to work at 6:10am one day last week, one block from my home I was greeted by a group of 3 scouse accented yobs trying desperately to start a fight with a local guy and his girlfriend. Crew bus turned up so I didnt get to see the outcome, but I dearly hope it included a bunch of police officers and a bit of mindless brutality.

Not impressed at all - Britons should have to take a maturity test before being given a passport.