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tony draper
14th Aug 2008, 07:14
Wallis Simpson, the Nazi minister, the telltale monk and an FBI plot (http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/6-29-2002-21438.asp)

Duncan Scott-Ford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Scott-Ford)

PLovett
14th Aug 2008, 07:41
Mr d,

Indeed, although wasn't Wallis Simpson still a US citizen? I would have thought that putting a noose around her neck would have rocked the alliance somewhat. Besides, wouldn't it have been the perfect opportunity to spread a bit of misinformation, after all, who would have questioned her bona fides?:ok:

tony draper
14th Aug 2008, 09:14
Probably not, had we scragged her we wudda had to scrag half the the rest of the aristocracy who looked quite fondly upon Facism.
:)
PS she must have been doing something really special for His Royal Highness because she was a singularly ugly woman wi a face like a bashed crab.
:uhoh:

Lon More
14th Aug 2008, 10:09
she must have been doing something really special for His Royal Highness because she was a singularly ugly woman wi a face like a bashed crab

Reading between the lines, old habits die hard. He probably never looked at her face and then this (http://tafkac.org/celebrities/wallis_simpson_gender.html)

The duchess in her own inimitable and unique manner has been the only woman who had been able to satisfactorily gratify the duke's sexual desires."



For once the Froggies had the right idea.http://www.augk18.dsl.pipex.com/Smileys/guillotine.gif

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU
14th Aug 2008, 10:11
I think the Aristocracy were still concerned at the ramifications of the Russian Revolution. They probably saw the unrest in the late '20s and early '30s as the trigger for a re-run here. To their eyes, fascism (NAZI or not) was a tangible safeguard against Communism. I suspect they remained ferociously British but willing to gain dubious allies through plain expediency.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't huge tracts of the Working Class look to Moscow for inspiration and comfort? I don't recall that ever being viewed as traitorous.

tony draper
14th Aug 2008, 10:28
Oh there were plenty of the working class also looked fondly upon Hitler, Mosley's lot frinstance and the establishment and constabulary of the time seemed much fonder of Mosley's lot then they were of Moscows minions.
We had our revolution way to early.
:)

shedhead
14th Aug 2008, 16:56
Its also true that the oxbridge contingent had a distinctly red tinge,not many horny handed sons of toil there!and it could be argued that many of the woes of present day society can be placed at the door of the marxist lecturers of thirties Oxford and Cambridge and the indoctrination of those who would become the establishment in the fifties and sixties.It wasn't just Philby and the rest who were targeted.

tony draper
14th Aug 2008, 17:31
True many of those at the top of the ruling tree now are those that stuck hat pins into police horses in the sixties,we should never have stopped hanging traitors.
:rolleyes:

brickhistory
14th Aug 2008, 17:43
I think you could've safely hanged the 'lady.'



But in hindsight, didn't you get a better king out of the whole deal?

tony draper
14th Aug 2008, 18:01
I seem to recall in the 1930's whilst visiting the unemployed in Wales the Duke was foolish enough to utter the words "We have to do something for these people" within earshot of the press,that's when the establishment decided he just would not do and a new King was needed,
A bolshi King? good grief! he has to go.
:)

selfloadingcargo
14th Aug 2008, 20:53
But in hindsight, didn't you get a better king out of the whole deal?

well...yes, up to a point. But George VI was not a well man and, as the younger brother, he never expected to have to take up the burden of kingship. His wife (the ex Queen Mum) always blamed Edward for her husband's premature death - with some justification.

George and Elizabeth did a truly remarkable job during the war and he stepped up to the (unexpected) plate in a way that exemplifies what 'duty' means. The world would be a better place if more people could accept their duty as George VI did, even if it is inimical to their wishes.

Lon More
14th Aug 2008, 23:52
Not a lot changes (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1044911/Public-schoolboy-drink-driver-ripped-cottage-gets-400-fine.html)