Qatar Airways rostering department N1 reason for resignations

[Lulu qatar]

Why all A320 guyz leaving QA and as main reason thay put A320 roster +salary ?
Plz explain am on A330 and we have no problems 4 days off or to get requested flight is not a big deal on A330 .

[Ronaldo 330]

Lulu dont forget you are on A330 means roster is out on time and you are alowed to request off days or flight while A320 guyz get roster with salary and not alowed to request anything except WOFF.
And A330 fly nice destionations with ILS and radar vectors in 90% while A320 fly to Sanna,Kathmandu,Alexandria,Mashad,Seychelles,Damascus,south India...all intresting destinations for training but i prefere doing FRA,LHR,KIX,IAD,CDG flat terrain and radar vectors .
A320 roster has been ok before long time back but last 3 y its just a joke and make airline lost over 30% of fleet captians becouse of it .
Lets see a new system !

[CEO PITA]

Its not an rostering department its an "mad house" in there .

[P.Clostermann]

and it is not getting better.

CS told us today that they had a meeting with the new cabin svcs manager and the new rostering system was explained to them.

They want to go to the old GF system whereby you will be gone for 5 days flying around the area, only using DOH as a transit port.

So DOH-KWI-DOH-AMM (layover)-DOH-DXB-DOH-BAH(layover)DOH-BEY-DOH-DXB (layover)-DOH-MCT-DOH-AUH(layover)-DOH.... could soon be reality for the 320 guys.

Widebody fleets can expect more short flights after a long sector etc...

CS where briefed and asked about their opinion...So far we havent heard a thing but this system is supposed to be implimented in september..

In my opinion a bomb will explode if they do that!

Another ill-thought over decision by managment! Add it to our still-not-confirmed annual leave tickets !

[kotakota]

Completely ignorant how yr allowance / hotel system works in QR , but we used to do this sort of pattern in BA shorthaul out of Gatwick ( and LHR to a certain extent ). Looks like very short sectors to me , so either you will use ****e hotels , or yr allowances will not make it worthwhile ?
We used to love this sort of work , but then again we were staying in great hotels in great cities around Europe. It actually gives you more time at home sometimes but can be bad for family life if you are at least home most nights even if it is 2 in the morning ? Is this the case with you guys ?

[Two Dogs....]

Hey Pierre, multi-day trips may actually improve quality of life for A320 crew if they get rid of all the pointless night duties around the Gulf. AUH, BAH, DXB and KWI all through the night duty for less than two hours pay? It's bullsh1t exploitation, no good reason for it and all crew hate it. Management know this too, they have been presented with alternative patterns more than once:ugh:. Management dont have the will to change anything because they dont do any of the crap duties themselves. I guess you have to expect a crap airline to have worthless management.

[P.Clostermann]

This could improve lifestyle on the A320 if these patterns would be guaranteed followed by days off.

This is apparently not the case. STD 7 days off /month will be the rule

QR hotels usually have been of good standards so that should not be a worry.

Thing is that most pilots come to the Gulf bringing their families, looking for some sort of a lifestyle. A lifestyle at home.

If now 5 days away becomes the standard, there goes the lifestyle and most probably there goes the wife and kids as well! Not worth it!

On long haul it will not affect us that much however, so once more, the babybus drivers are screwed! It is time our beloved leaders start seeing this!

Unfortunately A320 CPs have not got the balls to change anything! The poor guys can not even request a flight on A320.

[CEO PITA]

Masalama Q.A and all of you enjoj new rostering system which will save airline cost and WILL NOT improve youre life stile or salary .
I left DOH receantly for good and got a job with airline in far east with good benifits and commuting contract .
One more thing before i leave i have to tell you my friends that QA use to have good hotels but i been talking to one mananger in QA tower before i leaft and he told me due to cutting costs QA starts to take cheaper hotels for crew with less free options when in.
Thnx for support and i enjoj some times in QA doing all its forbiden .

[Lulu qatar]

BYE BYE CEO PITA WE WILL MISS YOURE FUNNY POSTS ON QR

If QR change hotels its going to be another EVAC from QR .

Anyone done CMB flight and stay in that Tamarin Tree or Taj hotel ? Its like jail but a bad one .

[loc22550]

Let's just hope in the interest of the company that they will think twice before releasing any new roster system....
Maybe CEO PITA did the right move at the right time...

[Terri Wrist]

Congratulations CEO Pita, we will all miss you, specially the Chief of Katamites ;)

[skya320]

CMB most of the time we stay at Cinnamon Grand Hotel

[Lulu qatar]

Yea but some crew i know stay in Tamarin or Taj which is BAD !

I guess hotels will become 3 star or so due to cost cut program .

Roster system is new and we will see how bad or good it is but till now a new CRM (crew rostering manager) did do anything to improve it he is just there instead of C.C who was more busy searching boys then doing roster lets see what Australian guy up to .

[Two Dogs....]

Hey the airport Taj was a great place to watch the Tiger Airforce bomb the crap out of the airport. Sri Lankan AAA with a cold beer was always something to look forward to. I guess someday that war had to end.... :uhoh:

[skya320]

Sometime I just wish that we have a union here. (I know that it's impossible...but it would be nice if we have one to deal with this kind of management, roster:ugh: and many more)

[Terri Wrist]

Union very good idea skya320. But is man in jail now warming seat in solitary just for you :eek:

[loc22550]

Union would have save a lot of money to the company; by taking into consideration the problem of the crew....this would have prevent a huge number of resignation since the creation of the company.!
But as we all known here the politic is :take it or leave it!

[Lulu qatar]

Union not alowed .
orange juce not alowed
dates not alowed
BMW not alowed
sick leave not alowed more then 14 days

Alowed :
UK management with A320 experiance in 6 aircrafts airline
warning letters
declearing mayday due to fuel status
parking in wakra and walking to tech building
if you decleare pan pan for fuel you become Inst becouse you save fuel
hard landings with S/O A330
back to back roester made in AUS
any more ideas ?

[qatari001]

Hey Lulu qatar, are you sure you re not the same person as CEO-PITA??
Because I think you re always saying the same crap with the same spelling mistakes!
And we re just fed up to read the same thing!
What do you think guys?

If you really resigned from QR, then you should help us to join you in your new airline :rolleyes: many QR FO's looking for quick command upgrade? any tips? :confused:

[JungleJett]

Yeah I think he's the same loser....or his evil twin....
After a year of reading the same crap and NOTHING new it becomes a pain.
For the last time PETA/Lulu, because is spelled B-E-C-A-U-S-E and NOT BECOUSE.....

[Terri Wrist]

What to do with young generation Y. Why why why... always wanting something new, never listen, never happy! :( Ceo & LULU arnt here to entertain you junglejett. They say the same ****e every day, because the Goat is ****e and it is the same every day. Dont shoot the messenger because he cant sprell. Sprelling is not an IQ marker :8

[qatari001]

I also like the way you write "ROSTER".
Considering you see this word every time you check your "ROSTER", but you still manage to write it "ROESTER".
Lulu/Pita are you sure you are an airline Pilot? Becouse ohh sorry I mean "Because" you re really STUPID! and NOBODY wants to read your topics anymore....
Actually I don't even think you have flown for QR, You just tried to get as a Cadet/SO but unfortunately you didn't make it!
Probably you have a friend or a relative in the company so this is why you pretend to know everything but actually you re just repeating the same crap all the time!!!!:\
Listen if you stop posting in pprune, we ll all buy you a big bottle of fresh orange "JUCE" (its juice by the way), dates and a free ride on the BMW if you ever transit via Doha. So, think about it ;)

[CEO PITA]

OO i can feel the pain A PAIN IN THE ASS YOU ARE !

Can you feel it too ???
always look behind in doha coz you might feel it

[Xaxa]

Good or bad spelling, Pita does have interesting point of view and often good information. Without him, QR threads would be less fun to read. :cool:

[Lulu qatar]

Sept 10 days to go .watch the fun when you get youre 5 star new system roster CDG-DOH-BEY night stop :)

[qatari001]

No I didn't feel anything yet, may be because I always look forward when I walk...
Ceo pita, I tell you what you re full of it! If you really left QR, so what the hell are you still doing here ? You should be busy with the training in your "new airline" in far east :hmm:
Have some massages you ll feel better I m sure! :ouch:

[CEO PITA]

What training you talking about am rated on all airbus fleet in QR so i dont need training in this airline .
Am here just to make you and junglejett nervues becouse i can see you 2 are easy to spool up he he he he .
Face it you 2 are stuck in Doha with a big loan ar youre wifes dont want to leave the place becouse kids in school or so and you have to stay and take all **** litle small man give to you .
Have a good meal . And keep looking forward sometimes its better not to turn back when you know what have you done to youre self . :O

[Qatari515]

man, you must be the first pilot in the history of aviation with 4 (3 if 330/340 is considered as one TR, not too sure about that) type ratings on his licence!

How much did you pay for that?

[JungleJett]

Hey loser you don't make me "Nerveous" "Becouse" you make me laugh or let me spell it in a way your little gelly thing wiggiling in between your ears that you call Brain can understand....you make me LAFF....

I always promised myself not to get that low and argue with you....well sometime one just can't help it. But I am done with you.

There is a saying : "don't argue with the village idiot"...

Please boys and girls, let's ignore the village idiots PITA/LULU

[qatari001]

Oh I forgot that you re a super pilot Pita bread! I would love to know this airline who doesn't give any training for type rated pilots...:hmm:


Yeah good idea junglejett, I think everybody had enough of this looser!

[Terri Wrist]

So you ignore fighting and decide come to Goat anyway XAXA :hmm: Now you complain about fighting at Goat :hmm: Who is then the new complainer? Do you like your new career path XAXA? Is true that complaining is bad for everything. Only solution is get rid of that half-witted meglomaniac stumpy leg katamite who is cause of first complaining :E

[tuan74]

This is becoming too personal issues gents...

Can we get back to the main topic please...:ok:

[CEO PITA]

See both jump like frog if i say anything he he cool !
It always better to hate someone then to tell youre self a true .

[No_BS]

Hoy! Sorry a Fruedian slip. Hey!
PITA and Lulu are altered egos of the same person! PITA not going to a Far East airline ...he came from one after he was too old for them. Now he keeps a gate in the office! Likes to talk about everyone behind their backs, like the CEO (ok we all like to do that!), CP, SVPO and CPT. He is a "down under" sort of person, who after a few beers will tell you his view of the world through his glasses.:8
Hangs out with the "Tattooed one".
They say you can tell the character of a person by the company they keep, and what they post on pprune!:D

[Terri Wrist]

I hear chief making rack right now for him. After Ramadan he going to be tallest man in Qatar. Then chief will be able kiss his ass without bend over Ha ha :E

[Fubaliera]

Does anybody know or have recieved a QR A320 Sep roster. How has the new Carmen system worked and have they implemanted the gulf 5day trips.
Also does anybody know how long is training for somebody who is current and qualified on the 320.
Thanks in advance
regards

[qatari001]

Rosters still not out :hmm: Technically, it should be out tomorrow (Sunday)...
Lets see if this new system will make anything better...
They re actually talking about "QUALITY, EQUITY and FAIRNESS" :ooh: ....:rolleyes:
But from what I remember on the last memo regarding the new rostering system, it doesn't say anywhere that they ll implement this 5days gulf trip or layovers in other gulf countries...
Its been a rumor so far, but not officially confirmed.... correct me If I m wrong, as I m not sure about it...

[tuan74]

Rosters for the 320 as usual will be out a day before or the same day as your salary....regardless of whether new system or not...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Just hoping it'll be much better than what we're having now...:(