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Richard Taylor
13th Aug 2008, 19:04
And everyone else, according to a "right wing" think tank in the UK.

The Policy Exchange says that cities like Sunderland, Hull, Liverpool etc have lost their "reason d'etre" (eg. shipbuilding) & that people should head for the likes of London, Oxford, Cambridge as the cities of "the north" are beyond salvation.

I see Cameron, whose Tory party have been known to have the ear of this think tank have said the report is "insane" - John Prescott said "mmm-mmm-mmm-mmm" as he tucked into another pork pie...

Right that's me off for another deep fried Mars Bar...:rolleyes:

Tonkatoy
13th Aug 2008, 19:08
There are too many of us down here as it is. The last thing we need is a mass influx from the North.

Mr Draper, some sanity at this point would be appreciated...

lexxity
13th Aug 2008, 19:15
Just watched the co-author of this shite on BBC Northwest News. Watch for yourself here. (javascript: void window.open('http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/england/realmedia/northwesttonight/northwesttonight?size=16x9&bgc=C0C0C0&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1','avaccesswin','toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar =0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,width=400,height=294'))

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Rainboe
13th Aug 2008, 19:26
Forget east, south, west, even north if you have to. Head eastern Europe! As we in western Europe start rapidly getting poorer, and nobody can deny this year as never before it's happening, it seems that eastern Europe- in particular Poland and Czech Republic are rapidly heading to overtake. I have been stunned how wealthy it is starting to look over here. Warsaw is not like what it was! I can see the map of Europe transformed in 10 years, with countries like Poland being the new wealthy and busy industrialised nations, while western Europe, with its awful legacy of extravagant social spending and exorbitant services (and defunct economies) sends workers to Poland to build factories and jobs! What is happening to the north of England now will arrive in the south as work gradually disappears and jobs migrate to the newly efficient economies of eastern Europe.

Richard Taylor
13th Aug 2008, 20:00
No wonder all the Poles are heading back!!

Rainboe
13th Aug 2008, 20:35
.....to be closely followed by Brit building workers following work and heading away from the recession hit UK to the new wealthy part of Europe, which has strangely the most forward looking leaders determined not to drop their newly liberated countries back into a socialist miasma that they have painfully climbed out of! Wait a minute....this worker has followed work to Poland flying the relatively newly liberated people on holidays to the sun...in packed jets.....and how noticeably well behaved and sober they seem to be....unlike spoilt western Europe peasants determined to inflict their objectionable vacational habits on their neighbours.....but only until their temporary wealth vanishes in taxes to pay for Brown's extravagance (with our money!).

I suddenly start worrying for the future of the UK! We are ruled by big spending (with OPM- Other Peoples' Money) morons.

tony draper
13th Aug 2008, 20:45
Just watching the skinny four eyed paper shuffling geek arsehole that came out wi it being interviewed on telly now, he's the kind we used to pummel every playtime at school,he talks like a sissy boy as well.:E
When we do come south it will be with a Army to put the feckin place to the sword and torch.:suspect::rolleyes:

FlightTester
13th Aug 2008, 20:51
Left the UK for the USA four years ago, haven't looked back since. The grass here is greener, and it is better mown! Great Britain is a country with a rich and wonderful history and absolutely no future until you get the politicos out of the hog trough.

I'll just duck down behind my protectionist policies now! :ok:

Parapunter
13th Aug 2008, 20:55
S'funny Drapes, I thought you'd be all for burning Soondooloond down.:uhoh:

Wholigan
13th Aug 2008, 21:02
Topic already in TRABB

Richard Taylor
13th Aug 2008, 21:55
Interesting, I typed Sunderland in the search engine before starting the topic....& nothing came up. Maybe that's says more about Sunderland than anything else... :}:E

tony draper
13th Aug 2008, 22:09
We have never forgiven the makums for being dirty roundheads,Tyneside was Royalist of course.
:)

Parapunter
13th Aug 2008, 22:30
I worked there for a while in the 90's. It really wasn't a nice place at all - a very good advert for the south is Sunderland.

However, the wallys behind that report have obviously never been to Croydon, Hatfield, Slough, Chatham, Dagenham...

BenThere
13th Aug 2008, 22:32
As I've said before, over and over, the corrosive effect of socialism is irresistible.

It can be reversed only with the injection of lowered taxes, an unfriendly-to- cash welfare safety net, and aggressive enforcement of the laws already on the books with unpleasant, not inviting, prisons waiting for the non-compliant.

It takes activism, votes, and conviction to restore what we once all had, but I've seen it done.

Windy Militant
13th Aug 2008, 23:03
It's fairly obvious that this is merely another attempt by the toffs to turn every thing north of the Watford gap into a bloody great grouse moor. They've failed with Jockistan and the Viet taff so now they're trying it on with the Northern Tykes. I reckon if this carries on Yorkshire will declare UDI and Newcastle will become a Free Port. :ok:

Flap 5
14th Aug 2008, 10:30
As usual the media have got hold of this and twisted the logic. The report is just stating the situation as it is. It is not taking a moral or other view on the situation at all.

The fact is the south is growing faster in financial terms than the north. That is not a good thing, it is bad.

The governments job is to make sure the north and south have equal benefit in financial growth to spread the population throughout the country. The south is far too crowded as it is. The government is failing big time.

Parsnip
14th Aug 2008, 11:32
Flap 5 you are spot on.No-one in the media has bothered to read the report. It makes an indisputable case for changing the way taxpayers money is wasted in promoting pointless regeneration schemes which achieve zero in terms of employment, environment or anyotherment
For an example look at EGNV where 2m of taxpayers regeneration cash was spent in constructing a new road to the front of the terminal to give the appearance of an expanding airport. Fact is that passenger numbers are sliding down from about 900k 2 years ago to 740k this year. It is that sort of issue which is repeated all over the North east, that the report is concerned with.
And don't get me started on Sunderlund, (the satellite republic of Ireland)

fireflybob
14th Aug 2008, 12:27
Surely one response is that more government agencies and corporations should be moving their to centres TO cities such as Liverpool and Sunderland! To an extent this has happened to cities such as Nottingham (ok thats Midlands I agree) where much of the Inland Revenue is now based.

The south is congested enough in almost every way already!

ProM
14th Aug 2008, 12:52
The UK has had a problem with jobs being exported to countries with lower wages, and lower costs of employment. Here is the opportunity. Put a dviding line across and the North can do away with H&S, Welfare provisions; high wages and thus become a developing country. that would aid re-generation up there

Meanwhile us smug Southerners can rejoice in the newly found nearby manufacturing capability in Hull instead of China; call-centres in Liverpool instead of India


Oh b***er. Just seen the flaw in the plan, if we move the call centres to Liverpool we won't understand a word :ugh:

eastern wiseguy
14th Aug 2008, 13:18
if we move the call centres to Liverpool we won't understand a word


That didn't seem to bother them when they moved call centres to the sub continent and beyond.......:mad:

UniFoxOs
14th Aug 2008, 13:45
Look, any body thick enough to believe this twaddle should deffo go down south - we don't want them cluttering up our peaceful world north of Watford.

UFO

G-CPTN
14th Aug 2008, 14:08
Whereas Newcastle (Longbenton) used to be the location of the longest corridor in Britain at the Department for Work and Pensions who occupied 64 acres.
Think it's all been transferred to Mumbai now . . .

fireflybob
14th Aug 2008, 14:09
if we move the call centres to Liverpool we won't understand a word

Prom, I have to confess I agree with you!

So where does all this leave Scotland then?

airship
14th Aug 2008, 17:52
Great Britain is a country with a rich and wonderful history and absolutely no future until you get the politicos out of the hog trough. Well that's weird. Because the feedback I have about the USA is practically identical. That is to say, if only there weren't so many Americans feeding at the hog trough, especially those that don't need to but especially those (elected politicians) brought up to feed that way and never learned how to operate any other way and yet who're almost always excused of their behaviour...?! I call it the 'Boss Hogg' phenomenom, the USA could be even a greater place to live than it already is, if only...?! :confused:

brickhistory
14th Aug 2008, 21:06
WINNER!




Most unrelated thread somehow tied back to the United States and it being our fault in a post!


Johnny, tell him what he's won.......

Richard Taylor
14th Aug 2008, 21:40
Two weeks in Disneyland? ;)

BYALPHAINDIA
14th Aug 2008, 22:52
I bet the author's never heard of 'Finisham Hospital' too:ugh::rolleyes::}

What a right 'Boff' he was sat there talking about 'Rubbish'

I couldn't understand his 'weird' accent, It was 'Uncomprehensible':ugh::rolleyes:

FlightTester
14th Aug 2008, 23:40
ahh well if you heard it as feedback it must be true then eh! Personally, having lived in both countries I know which I prefer. Refreshingly enough the local hogs in my city just dropped our rate of our equivalent of Council Tax, when was that last time yours went down?

shedhead
15th Aug 2008, 00:42
It takes activism, votes, and conviction to restore what we once all had, but I've seen it done.
fairly easy all you ALL have to do at the next general election is vote for anyone who is not the incumbent MP for that constituency and write to your local newspaper urging every one else to do the same.End result goodbye career politicians and good riddance!
could be a very British revolution!