RAAF Hawk a little low

[Mick.B]

From Defence Media

Defence has begun an investigation into what caused an Air Force Hawk 127 to divert to Coffs Harbour airport this morning.

Two Hawk aircraft were conducting a routine training mission, when the pilot of one aircraft declared an airborne emergency and diverted to Coffs Harbour.

The damaged Hawk circled over the ocean to reduce its fuel load, and the pilot of the second aircraft conducted a visual check for damage.

The damaged aircraft landed safely at Coffs Harbour airport while the second returned to RAAF Base Williamtown near Newcastle. There were no injuries.

“Air Force provides intensive training so our pilots are well prepared to handle contingencies like this. The two Hawk pilots dealt with this incident in a calm and professional way,” Group Captain Alan Clements, Chief of Staff, Air Combat Group, said.

“Air Force is serious about safety. Two Defence teams are travelling to Coffs Harbour. One team includes aviation safety specialists who will investigate what caused the incident. The investigation will focus on the probability the aircraft clipped a power line approximately 25 nautical miles east of Armidale,” Group Captain Clements said.

The second team will conduct a detailed damage assessment. The Hawk has sustained some damage to its left wing. It is uncertain at this stage what it will cost to repair the aircraft.

Both aircraft belong to 76 Squadron at RAAF Williamtown. Air Force operates Hawk 127s as a lead-in fighter training aircraft.

Pic at Low-flying top gun's a real goose - National - smh.com.au (http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/lowflying-top-guns-a-real-goose/2008/08/13/1218306976853.html)

Video at EMERGENCY LANDING OF RAAF HAWK : NBN (http://www.nbntv.com.au/index.php/2008/08/13/emergency-landing-of-raaf-hawk/)

[taxydual]

Wasn't there an F4 that picked up a wire around it's windscreen in the Falklands in the mid '80's?

Wasn't it from the only telephone line on West Falkland?

Weren't the home-made telephone poles only 12' high?

[WASALOADIE]

I was in the Falklands at the time of the F4 wirestrike. IIRC the wire was at Saunders Island and was an HF radio wire strung between two poles about 30ft high. Didnt know he'd done it until he returned to MPA and his groundcrew found the damage. Some flyby it must have been.

[ORAC]

IIRC, it was a radio aerial; and when the plods went to investigate the height of said aerial, the inhabitants of the reputed location stoutly denied it had happened and refused to cooperate. :ok:

As the CBFFI said, it was the only place he knew where he received complaints because settlements didn't receive regular flypasts.....

[taxydual]

Ah, an HF aerial. 30' thats OK then. Wasn't Smoky was on the Unit Inquiry?

[Gainesy]

I vaguely recall talk at Honington of a Bucc on det in Norway landing at Bardufoss(?) with a good length of Noggy phone wire wrapped around the fin/tailplane bullet.:uhoh:

Course it may have been strung across a valley. Maybe.:suspect:

[The Helpful Stacker]

Is it true that those Buccaneer chaps often had to ascend in order to put the undercarriage down?

;)

[cornish-stormrider]

I heard many a war story about the bucc's coming back with green "paint" on the underside - some even had little brown sticks as well. I saw photos taken of bucc's doing a beatup and it looked like the intake was level with the head of a guy standing on a houchin.

Bucc's, how low can you go??

[ORAC]

Many, many, moons ago, there was a Jag mate who took off the top of the fin hitting the bottom wire between a couple of pylons. He claimed, over a few pints, that he would have got away with it if he hadn't instinctively pulled up slightly, when he first saw them, before deciding he had to go under.

[Ali Barber]

And there was the Jag in Oman that collected the hand rail at one of the ranges! And the famous car-strike!

[asiaseen]

In 1985 a SOAF Jaguar bounced off the top of a car on the Thumrait to Salalah road. Immediate end of contract for the pilot.

[chiglet]

Saw two [RN] Buccs fly under the Type80 at Buchan.....:ok:
watp,iktch

[WASALOADIE]

Taxydual: you are quite correct, Smokey was in charge of the inquiry. Seem to remember the F4 pilot was known as "Kenny", shared the same surname as a well known comedian at the time.

I also believe that he took the aerial wire whilst at a high angle of bank so wingtip clearance was not a lot.

Locals did indeed deny it but word soon got around that they thought it was the best flyby seen.

[Gainesy]

Was that Smokey from the Chinook world, or another one?

[taxydual]

Yup, Smokey of the Chinook world. Ex OC 78

[Gainesy]

Hah! Bloody cheek. :)

Twas Smokey who demoed to me how to go under HT wires in a Wokka when he was on 7.

[asiaseen]

Although the picture is a composite, with the bomb splashes added later, this was taken from the flight deck of HMS Eagle, height 80ft AWL.

http://www.pixcastle.com/pic/3001IQZqg/311772.jpg

[herkman]

Well the Hawk has two slashes in the l/h mainplain leading edge.

Perhaps duty officer for a while to consider the situation.

Good thing no one was hurt.

Regards

Col

[Ogre]

We've had a few scratchy heads around here trying to work out what sort of power lines they could have been. The spacing of the dents on the wing don't appear to match up with any known cable spacing. Must have been at a funny angle....

Talking of banana jets, there was a flight of four in Turkey I think (mid 80's) flying down a valley when they came across cables strung across the valley. From what I was told, 1 went over, 2 and 3 went under, and 4 went through! Got back safe with no refueling probe or canopy and a white face navigator (the cable apparently had gone up the nose, up the windscreen, through the canopy and hit the blast shield in front of the Nav).

[layman]

from SMH article

"...the jet landed safely and taxied back to the airport terminal under its own steam."

An interesting concept in propulsion for any aircraft let alone the military. Or is this a secret that good investigative journalism has uncovered?

[African Queen]

In 1985 a SOAF Jaguar bounced off the top of a car on the Thumrait to Salalah road. Immediate end of contract for the pilot.

Removed cos it upset BEagle

[African Queen]

Removed cos it upset BEagle

Removed cos it upset BEagle

[BEagle]

How very predictable....:hmm:

Next thing some yoof-tube surfer will post the link of de Cadenet ducking when Hanna's Spitfire nearly brained him..... We've all seen it, so please don't bother.

[kiwi grey]

A young RNZAF pilot once brought his Jet provost back to Ohakea with the landing light u/s. Investigation showed that the housing was full of pine needles. And no, it was not a low-level tasking :E
A long, embarrassing and expensive interview with the CO followed.

Never mind, he rose to be a Wingco & CO of his own squadron, then jumped to the RAAF where, I think, he's now a GPCAPT. :ok:

[PPRuNeUser0211]

Now I'm sure somewhere along the line I read a magazine article about a hunter having a dune-strike somewhere hot & sandy (oman or similar?) and returning home safely... that's low!

[Lower Hangar]

The Buccaneer airframe was renowned for its ruggedness - at least in earlier days - I recall an S2 parked in 736 hangar ( mid 60's) - it had hit a power line ( 1 off those strung between pylons somewhere in the NE of Scotland) and said cable had trashed the Blue Parrot and then got stretched across both intakes ( leaving suitable indentations on both stainless steel intake edges) before it presumably went 'twang' - both Speys had strands of wire wrapped around the LP stages - and I mean a lots of strands - After the wire strike the aircraft recovered safely to Lossie. !!

[Oz_in_oz]

Kiwi Grey - nope that young pilot is in the RAAF, but he isn't a GPCAPT. Still a Wingco, but he has a Sqn command again!

[FJJP]

And then there was the Bucc on the first Red Flag (1977) that took out the VHF whip aerial on one of the threat simulator cabins on the range...

[asiaseen]

And in 1971, the Phantom FGR2 (XT910, I think) that landed at Leuchars after flying through a wood. Large chunks of tree embedded in the leading edge of the wings and one engine shifted rearward by several inches. Did the pilot's career no harm, he went on to reach air rank.

[kitwe]

Believe the nav got the blame for not telling his pilot he was about to fly through a tree! At a dining-in night at a secret base in Lincolnshire, some time later, BAe presented the pilot with a bird's nest mounted on a small plinth. They had spent a considerable amount of time repairing the F4 in question "after a bird strike". Unfortunately, the bird had been sitting in the tree at the time.

[asiaseen]

Kitwe, you're right, the nav did get the blame, but then, he wasn't destined for higher things.

[African Queen]

I have removed the photos that offended you so much.

I see you have more than 13,900 posts on PPRuNe.
Congratulations - but maybe it's time to get a :mad: life.

[boswell bear]

I'll second that AQ, there's no wonder the youth of today despise the elderly! :ugh:

[rolandpull]

I can understand somebody not wanting the 'said' images appearing on this site, however, where might one (who is not so easily embarrassed) find such images? Just out of interest you understand.

[jindabyne]

bos

----bit of a generalisation?

[MightyGem]

Just for Beagle:

YouTube - Spitfire Low Pass (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hvDDDKnNhuE)
:rolleyes:

[Gainesy]

To those who don't know, Alain de Cadenet stands about 5ft 5in tall.
Bloody funny bloke but don't go on the back of his bike, nutter about covers it!:uhoh:

[helen-damnation]

slight thread creep but..... :O

Does anyone have a link to the footage of the Bucc's disappearing behind the terrain at Red Flag as seen through the ground defence visual tracking (I think)?

I remember it from the good old BBC news as a sprog and would love to see it again.

Regards,

HD

[Fox3snapshot]

I am hoping that the previously mentioned concerns were unfounded, you used to be one of the troops!

And at the end of the day the photies posted by those above are well represented in previous threads. I am happy to re-post as well as I have some originals and some copies of the SOAF pix.

Don't get all moralistic on us, it doesn't suit you! :hmm:

[West Coast]

Re-post the piccies if you would.

I outrank Beagle.

[African Queen]

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb7/anonnemouse/Flattened.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb7/anonnemouse/Jag.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb7/anonnemouse/jag31.jpg

[kiwi grey]

Oz,

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