Emirates A380 in Munich

[A300Man]

EK A380 (EK201) is currently on the ground in MUC. Assume technical diversion.

[camber]

Assume anything, could have been medical. They were on the ground for only one hour, before recommencing their flight to JFK.

[A300Man]

You are correct. Now reported as a medical emergency.

[Eldin]

Thought so.

Too early for Octoberfest....

[Hook]

somebody probably slipped in the First Class shower........
does anyone know if they had to jettison before landing?

[JungleJett]

Hook that's a good one!

I think the 380 cannot jettison, unlike Boeing. Well I know for a fact that the 320/330/340 don't...

[Oceanic]

JJ, the 330/340 can certainly jettison fuel (although on the 330 it is an option).

[Marcin76]

Hi!
They started to dump fuel over Poland.
Here you can find some photos taken by polish contrail spotters:O
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[Check 'Six']

A380 can jettison. Whatever fuel is in the storage tanks and trim tank. Fuel in the feed tanks cannot be jettisoned.

Check your Six.

[!turnleftrightnow!]

However folks! It was a pleasure to see that EK-A380 in Munich although ATC was very busy with usual business at that time.

[MrMachfivepointfive]

Okay - here is the gospel:
9 year old girl suffered a seizure in Y class. Medlink demanded immediate diversion. Closest airport was VIE, which is not suitable for A380, therefore on to MUC.
M. O'G.. did a beautiful overweight landing. (Why dump 60 tons if you don't have to? Airbus SOP are lightyears ahead of Boeing when it comes to overweight landings). Trace files and E-logbook came out clean. The bird is back on the way to JFK by now.

[Hook]

no clue - lots of posts - I lose my respect for a certain profession

Getting all high and mighty are we?

[Fred Garvin M.P.]

Out of curiousity, how do you figure Boeings SOP doesn't allow for overweight landings? (Or better put, why is Airbus' thought process better than Boeings with this?) Boeing certainly allows you to land overweight and encourages that an approach not be delayed during an emergency to jettison fuel down to max landing weight. What am I missing?

[Oceanic]

Fred, I think what M5.5 is referrring to is that with Airbus if your V/S at touchdown is less than 360ft/min, then no inspection is due and you can get airborne again at your own discretion. Very useful when you have diverted somewhere with no qualified engineers to sign off the inspection in the Log.

[Fred Garvin M.P.]

That would be the missing piece. Clear now. Thanks.

[Gulf News]

This is going to become quite a regular occurrence. The law of probabilities would dictate that the increased number of passengers increases the likelihood of passenger related problems. Wait until the high density version enters service.

Medilink will 90% of the time recommend a diversion because that is the easiest thing for them to do. They have no idea of the difficulties or problems that the crew face during unforeseen diversions nor do they care, their job is done. This may become a big problem on more remote routes.

[EDDM-ATC]

The bird dumped fuel, as seen clearly in the pictures and it was about 3h in MUC. So what are you talking about?:confused:

[White Knight]

Definitely dumping - but EDDM ATC, you don't know what it dumped down. Could still have been overweight on touchdown!!!

[Lord Flashhart]

A380- Max fuel- 254Tonnes,

Max T/O WT - 569Tonnes, MZFW 366T, MLDG WT 391T

[Schibulsky]

Actual landing weight was around 447 tons.
And the very sad fact...the little girl did not make it.
But a very nice move from the Munich Airport... they will not
charge anything for the whole costs incl. chopper to the hospital.

[MaffiFaloos]

Cannot jettison????

Try again.

[dooner]

Guys, the aircraft dumped fuel as seen in the photos so what....

The A380 crew, ATC and the emergency response crews did their humanly best, but (according to a previous post), the little girl lost her life , a family mourns:sad:, does anything more need to be said...

give it a rest

Dooner:(

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