Taxying Aircraft

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What authority do engineers (who do not hold pilot licenses) taxi aircraft under, in particular on licensed aerodromes? I suppose on private strips it is completely at the discretion of the land-owner.

Student pilots are only permitted to taxi aircraft under the authority of a FI and for this they are operating the aircraft 'SOLO' and must also hold a medical certificate and have passed the Air Law exam.

If a Chief Engineer held a FI rating then he could obviously authorise his LAE's etc. to taxi aircraft but what about those cases where CE's don't hold FI ratings?

Or is there some dispensation for taxying which I've missed?

Cheers for any info.

[spanners]

company approval covers taxing in big airways,
This involves taxi training by TRE on type, with a company medical and company radio licence. This R/T training can be done by the ground handlers. On my course, the 'instructor' started by going through the phonetic alphabet. :rolleyes: Hmmmm
(Mind you he did call it the 'fone-tick' alphabet!!:} )

[NutLoose]

You seem to make a lot of emphasis on Pilots licences, why?

Student pilots are only permitted to taxi aircraft under the authority of a FI and for this they are operating the aircraft 'SOLO' and must also hold a medical certificate and have passed the Air Law exam.
Surely that is the requirement for flying the aircraft and the taxying for the purpose off and not just purely taxying the aircraft from point A to point B


I hold an Aircraft Engineers Licence, CAA and EASA, and the requirement of me clearing an aircraft for flight dictates I ground run it to my satisfaction at what ever area is set for ground runs or checking systems such as bedding in brakes etc. I work on a largish licenced Airfield and on the maintenance area there is not requirement to talk to anyone, though common sense dictates we keep a listening check and visual awareness of our surroundings with the likes of 737's and airbus's or Air ambulances taxying about, any new Engineers we get, either I or the Chief Pilot would take them out for a check and point out the lie of the land so to speak, again that should be written into the company exposition / manual...

At the end of the day consult the ANO
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP393.pdf

Section 2 Page 16 Section 7 should help you, as you can see it does not state any experience reqd, though you need permission, the requirements for that should be covered in a copy of the Airfields Manual. Hope that helps :)

[Westaussielame]

Down under you are required to be trained on each type by a certified flying instructor and then fill out form and send to CASA who sends you out an aditional page for your licence book.
At one stage you could get it issued as all aircraft under 5700kg .
These days you can end up with Cessna 172R ! not even cessna high wing piston singles!
Needless to say a lot of LAMES taxy any lighties they have engine licence for and hope like hell they dont hit anything as the insurance implications are nasty.
westaussie

[SNS3Guppy]

USA--no authorization required.

[BigJoeRice]

" USA--no authorization required."

As in no pilot type authorizations perhaps. My US legacy carrier required an FAA A&P, the full maintenance ground school, procedures sim ride for engine fires and brake failures etc, and a live taxi with a training instructor round the airport before they let me loose with their fine Boeing products. That was required for each type we taxied, and was renewed every year. And let me say what damn fine fun it was!

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Interesting comments and thanks for the info, troops.

I mentioned pilots as, so far as I can read in the ANO, ANR or anywhere else, in order to operate an aircraft, in the air or on the ground, the person operating the controls must either be a licenced pilot or operating under the supervision of a FI.

I stand to be corrected.

Thanks again.

[NutLoose]

Link I posted to the ANO does not say that, it has no requirement to be a pilot listed........ just you require permission, be it for an Engineer, Aircraft Cleaner, Bottle washer or Pilot..

[WideBodiedEng]

As I have been lucky enough to train on some nice types at both CAESimuflite and FlightSafety, I always added on the Ground Run & Taxi course. That way I can have all the emergencies - burst tyre, brake fail, steering fail, engine fire etc - in the Sim.

[Piper19]

No special endorsement needed on the part66 license, but mostly the company license will have a "restrictions" field where they put in taxiing with aircraft. If you as engineer want to get rif of this restriction you normally need sim training (especially on procedures and abnormal situations). This training needs to be redone every so many years.
Same for engine starts I believe.