Air Atlantique no more DC-3?

[tembo01]

I heard that they are closing down the DC-3 flights. In an air mag it is explained by insurance and other costs running away. I was quite surprised and disapointed, the JU Air business is doing a roaring trade on the continent , every appearance and it is booked solid. Maybe the swiss authorities are more tolerant? I may miss the finer points of running a business of classic flights, but what make some succeed and others fail when demand looks far bigger than offer ?

[treadigraph]

Tembo, it's down to EASA requiring various expensive (and unnecessary:E) mods to the DC-3s to comply with safety regulations for aircraft of that size. Switzerland is (I presume) not affected by EASA.

I have heard a rumour that modified legislation that exempts some historic aircraft may be in the offing and will clear the way for Classic Flight to continue DC-3 pax ops - anyone know more?

What about the Dutch and other European DC-3s and the Lufthansa Ju-52 - are they managing to keep going with PAX flights? There were two Dutch DC-3s and a Norwegian one at Legends.

[Selfloading]

Interesting, just had a look and found out that Lufthansa are restoring a Connie to airworthy condition and intend to operate passenger carrying flights as per the Ju52, fantastic :}

[tembo01]

Can airplane be granted political asylum in a country where EASA doesn't apply?:cool: And then by a strange coincidence appear over airshows during the season? :ok:

[Phileas Fogg]

Saw, what I believed to be, the KLM DC2 low flying over Amsterdam city centre last weekend, nothing seemed to be preventing that from flying

[captain_flynn]

Its a real shame Air Atlantique cant fly passengers on the DC-3 now. I was lucky enough to fly on G-AMPY back in April. Will Air Atlantique still use the DC-3's for other operations or have their days with Air Atlantique come to an end?

[skippyscage]

a short photographic news item on the last flight

a sad day indeed (http://www.fencecheck.com/news/DC-3_Passenger_Flights_End_in_the_UK/)

[stevef]

G-AMPY and G-AMRA will be used for air displays, film work and parachuting so they'll still be around.

[Davidsoffice]

Isn't one of the issues the number of passengers the aircraft is certified for? The JU52 and presumably the DC2 come in under the cut off.
Interesting to see what happens in future though particularly with the Connie!
David

[Blacksheep]

Ironic isn't it, that what is demonstrably one of the world's most airworthy types of all time is to be grounded in Europe by EASA airworthiness regulations. :rolleyes:

I'm off to partake of an illegal substance.



(An English banger, also banned in Europe...)

[Bigt]

I thought the main issue was the reinforcement of the cockpit doors to prevent access from the cabin post 9/11, etc

[captain_flynn]

stevef
Many thanks for the information. Im glad they will still be used! :ok::ok:

[fauteuil volant]

English bangers. Banned in Europe. What planet are you on? You can get them in my local Super U. It keeps some of the 'yearning for the UK' ex-pats happy. But who in their right frame of mind would buy a British factory produced banger when he could buy a decent Saucisse de Toulouse. Now that's a proper pork sausage. I mean one with almost entirely meat content rather than bread and goodness knows what else in it! However I do concede that a decent local British butcher's pork sausage could hold its own against one. But whilst the French (and, I suspect, other European countries) make such first rate sausages, trying to sell the local British butcher's banger in Europe would rather like selling coals to Newcastle!

[Blacksheep]

What you say about continental sausages may be true, but please do remember the British have sustained ourselves for centuries on warm beer and English bangers. I spent some of the happiest days of my life eating NAAFI issue bangers and mash.

The DC3 is also not a patch on the A320 but it has a certain character about it that cannot be replaced by mere excellence. Like the good old banger, its a Classical piece of history, something we grew up with that defines who and what we are.

[Porrohman]

Interesting, just had a look and found out that Lufthansa are restoring a Connie to airworthy condition and intend to operate passenger carrying flights as per the Ju52, fantastic :}

The Lufthansa restoration project is Starliner registration N7316C; more details here: 2007 Connie News (http://www.conniesurvivors.com/1-2007_connie_update.htm)

[Stationair8]

Another fine job done by the EU in Brussels, to save us from being exposed to those deadly radial engines as joy riding passengers!

What next can they do, I know ban all British right hand drive cars and make the citizens of the UK by left hand drive cars and drive on the correct side of the road.

Perhaps they could ban steam train rides as well!!

Britain and the allies won the last war, but the EU will win this war!

[Fareastdriver]

What next can they do, I know ban all British right hand drive cars and make the citizens of the UK by left hand drive cars and drive on the correct side of the road.

They couldn't do that. The Irish would block it.

[His dudeness]

"Another fine job done by the EU in Brussels, to save us from being exposed to those deadly radial engines as joy riding passengers!"

So the CAA is no more? Hard to believe, after all most of the bollocks in JAROPS and now EUOPS comes from the CAA... and then there is always the possibility of granting special permissions, why the CAA does not do so is beyond me. But of course, thats the continents fault....