Ryanair Recruitment Plans

[radarcontrolmcr]

I was at a Ryanair Recruitment Day at Manchester Airport a few months ago. The guys there were pretty straight talking about what you got and what you didn't.

I am still hanging on in my company for redundancy before I make the decision whether to stay or go. A few guys have already jumped to the Ryanair ship and so far seem to be giving positive feedback.

I rang Steve Wood in the recruitment office last week and he was telling me they are planning an Open Day in their East Midlands Training Centre on Tuesday 29th July 2008. I'll probably call in and have another chat. Still a few things I want to clear up.

Are there any more guys and girls out there thinking of making the move?

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

Thanks :ok:

[ford cortina]

Don't wish to be a party pooper, but this guy has only posted 4 times and each time singing the praises of Ryanair.... Maybe he works for them?

[breakbreak]

I will join if there is a free type rating with bond :uhoh:

I know the answer to my question as well, " you shouldn't be with ryanair" ;)

I would like to know, how much of ryanair's annual profits is coming from type rating courses?
Any guesses?

[potkettleblack]

I would like to know, how much of ryanair's annual profits is coming from type rating courses

And what would their cost base be if they paid f/o's a fair salary during their training? Not to mention how they treat the cabin crew.

[breakbreak]

i guess that company is perfectly suited for sadomasochists, apologizze if I got the spelling worng :ok:

[B737800FO]

Ryanair profits from trainees isn't half as big as that made by Oxford from their ATP students, yet no one b*tches about that. Only people that don't want to pay for a type, is those that got ripped off on their integrated course who weren't one of the tiny few who got a job on a 737 400 BA rust bucket...

[Nearly There]

And what would their cost base be if they paid f/o's a fair salary during their training?

You do get paid a fair salary during training now, admitedly only during line training @ 45E per schedule block hour...its only during the TR you dont get paid.

[Mercenary Pilot]

yet no one b*tches about that.

Yes they do... CONSTANTLY!!!

Only people that don't want to pay for a type, is those that got ripped off on their integrated course who weren't one of the tiny few who got a job on a 737 400 BA rust bucket..

Errrm most of OAA's cadets finish their training and then go to Ryanair, paying for the TR.

Ryanair have "employed" 49 OAA cadets which is more than double any other airline (the second was Flybe, who employed 20).

[wheelie my boeing]

Oxford students aren't employees, they request the services of Oxford. Ryanair pilots (although it may not look like it) ARE employees, and thus should be treated so.
Plus the "tiny few" of OAA's students who get into BA are placed on the Bus rather than 734... And the BA "rust bucket" 737's are in a much better state than MANY other airlines aircraft and yet they are much older. Some Ryanair 737's that are only 2 years old look far worse than the BA 737's!!! :ooh:

[B737800FO]

Merc you missed my point.

For some reason Oxford ATP grads believe that they deserve certain things once they are done one of those is to not pay for their type.

Fact is, they have the same licence as a mod student who's spent half the amount on their training, only they have 50 hours less flight time in their logbook.

Break break sounds the oxford type...

[Mercenary Pilot]

I don't think its fair to generalise OAA students like that, I've met many lazy wannabes (modular & integrated) who believe they deserve to just walk into a job. In my experience, these are the same guys/girls who buy a TR+500 play-hours on type because they are generally not good enough to get a job based on personality, skill, attitude and ability.

[rich poole]

Mercenary pilot - I think that is a very broad statement that you made there and one that I do not believe in what’s so ever! I can’t comment on the recruitment process of any airline as of yet as I still have my IR/MCC to go before i can even start to think about the airlines. But to say that the guys/girls that go to FR are the ones that can not get into any other airline as they do not have the required skills is a very unfair comment! I know a handful of people, all totally amazing guys that I feel would fit in well into any company, (again with no airline experience I’m not the best to comment) that have taken the Ryanair route and have successfully accelerated their flying careers! I am not saying that this is the route for ever pilot, but it does suit some!
Rich

[wheelie my boeing]

I agree with Mercenary Pilot...

Not to mention the fact that OAA Integrated guys have to pass the selection, and many of those who don't pass the selection do modular training at OAA. Quite a high amount of those who fail the selection at Oxford go on to do the modular training there. So there is more to just a 50 hour difference between the integrated and modular guys at OAA. Don't believe me? Go and sit in on an integrated groundschool class and then sit in on a modular groundschool class. You can guess which one gets through more material (and which one is pure comedy).

Rich, whilst there may be SOME people who would prefer FR over a few other carries, those who do prefer them are a minority and they most likely prefer them over an airline where they may not be gaining jet time... It is still a job, but, don't kid yourself, the vast majority of the grads that do go to Ryanair would MUCH prefer to be somewhere else. The reason they aren't at a different airline? They didn't get in. The reason they didn't get in? They didn't pass selection. The reason they didn't pass selection? JUST AS MERCENARY PILOT SAID: "they are generally not good enough to get a job based on personality, skill, attitude and ability."

If they were good enough to pass selection at the likes of BA/BMI/MON/FC etc then 99.999999% would be at those airlines instead. (many won't admit that upon failing selection at the better airlines of course)

[Mercenary Pilot]

FR don't have any sort of hour building scheme. In some ways, its an unfair bond (in FR's favour of course) which is paid up front by the cadets but is still a world apart from paying an airline to sit in the RHS for 500 hours which is what I was referring too.

When I put "employed" in inverted commas I had been looking at OAA's employment statistics which make out like they have had some sort of influence in getting their students into FR which I know is nonsense. Ryanair don't care where there pilots come from (or what school) as long as they pass the interview & sim check....and are prepaired to pay for the TR scheme of course.

Maybe im not being very clear (I've been starring at screens all day :8 and shattered would be an understatement) but I'm certainly not criticising Ryanair's pilots, I was talking about wannabes who pay for hourbuilding schemes.

My general points were

A/ There is much debate on PPRuNe already about how much OAA charges for their course and is it worth it.

B/ Many OAA students go on to join Ryanairs on the TR schemes, which indicates that they ARE prepaired to pay for a TR.

C/ Not all OAA students believe that they deserve to go straight onto a jet because they went to Oxford. I know a few ex OAA guys/girls and generally I would say they are happy working their way up the ladder and some have no interest whatsoever in flying longhaul jets or for London Airways.

Hope that clears things up?

:ok:
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Anyway to get thread back on track, IMHO Ryanair will never stop interviewing for pilots even if there's no jobs (or brookfield contracts), because it's a licence for them to print money. What is it, £50 to send the CV and then £250 for the interview £500 for the sim check? Is that about right these days?:eek:

Also, of all the people I know who fly for Ryanair, none of them have any intention of staying for the long term.

[cfwake]

Is this the five minute off-topic OAA bashing session or the full half hour?

One day I would love to see a thread that doesn't degenerate as soon as someone mentions those 3 words that seem to get people so, so riled. Or do people take things so personally, even when they have nothing to do with said FTO, that they need every possible opportunity to dive in and have a go?

Why not, moderators, start a sticky entitled 'OAA bashing' so that everyone can rant in that as opposed to unrelated threads.

Such as this one, in which I have had my rant.

:ugh:

[Speed bird 002]

The main reason why people bash at OAA is the sour bitterness they have about not being able to enrol on the APP due to the fianance involved. The other reason may be that they do not like integrated students getting themselves in that all important first job before them.

It is a fact....integrated students will always be in a better position when applying for that first job. Yes, the licences are the same and so is everything else but the majority of integrated students are given career guidance and recommendation to the airlines which most modular students do not get. :ouch:

OAA is in fact one of the most organised and respected aviation school in the world whether you like it or not. It is a very expensive school but the students are willing to pay for it.

So, if you like OAA get yourself on their course. If you dont, then train elsewhere but keep your bitterness to yourself. :hmm:

SB

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

And some of us just chuckle that you chose to spend £80k on a basic flying training course and then ended up paying Michael to let you have a type rating to work on a slave contract on a 737.

You may think OAA are organised and respected.

But you are just a customer.

Not really relevant.

WWW

[radarcontrolmcr]

And you guys question why I hardly ever post on here. It's riduculous how this always turns into a slanging match.

It seems everyone is out to have a go at FR and now OAA!!! Maybe we can all find something to critisise but, come on guys, you can not say the aircraft are in bad order. How can you quantify that?

And incidentally, no I am not connected to Ryanair. I am just looking at options for the future.

:ugh:

[captain_rossco]

Very amusing thread, "Oh the modular guys failed to get onto the integrated course", or maybe they just realised that in a climate whereby most people are going to be giving o'leary £20k, why not go modular anyway.
"Sit in on a modular class and sit in on an integrated class blah blah blah", you would cringe at some of the integrated lot coming through OAA at the moment. Nothing special at all.

[wheelie my boeing]

You actually can take a look at how many modular and integrated guys get jobs and at which airlines too. Inside Oxford they place all the names on a wall, and the airline the person goes to is next to their name. Those who haven't got a job aren't on the wall..... You can see who hasn't got a job as each class has it's photo taken and work out the numbers for yourself.
Either way, looking at those results, the integrated lot have a wider variety or airlines and there are several airlines that clearly state they will NOT hire modular students. Now, unless you know more than the flight crew recruiters at some of the largest airlines in Europe, you can't really claim to know more than them. They must say "NO modular" for a reason, right? Ah well... I can almost guess what c*** you will come out with for that too.

[doctordoom]

Ryanair only take about 25% of people that go for a sim check that makes 75% of people that cant make the grade. The way you guys are talking you would think Ryanair would take any fool, this is just not the case.

[its easy]

I have never written in reply to a thread and I am so pleased to say it will be my last.

There is such a negative and totally unproffesional attitude it makes me wonder what you are actually doing- are you actually in employment or in training?

How much is 'chinese whispers'?

1. If someone wishes to go to OAA, fine-it's a free world. Surely no body would criticise you for which university you attended

2. If someone wishes to go to Ryanair or pay for the type rating, fine it's a free world. It is unfortunately the way the world and its economics has changed.

3. Ryanair makes £0 from TR's-the money is paid to relevant academy, ie Oxford Stockholm or CAE. and interviews cost nothing, just sim time.

4. It's not a case of any tom, dick or harry can walk in to RYR as eluded to by wheelie bollock talker.

Doctor doom & radar controller I salute your intelligent input.
The fact is there are constant interviews and sim checks not to 'make money' but because there are 110 737-800's being delivered over coming years & alot who attend do not make the grade, so the search is ongoing.

So the reason alot of people end up at ryr is not because they can't cut it elsewhere, it's just there are not the vacancies for them elsewhere.

And me? I spent my own money, full time theorythen USA & airways UK schools, RYR MCC & TR. Oh Along with money probs & herniated lumbar disc to deal with..
Pretty good to be on nearly £50 at end of first year though

Good luck one and all, i wish you the best in your journey.

Out.

[shaun ryder]

Would love to be on night stop with this one.




Yawn..:zzz:

[Chewie von Nubbins]

Any forecasted furloughs being announced by RYR yet on a company wide scale?

[captain_rossco]

Are you at oxford Wheeliebin, come and find me. The oxford wall is not by any stretch comprehensive. Silly comment.

[Callsign Kilo]

Speaking as an FR FO and ex modular student (non Oxford) OAA cadets on my course did little to endear my opinion of them. I accept that not everyone can be tarred with the same brush, however there was a lot of sneering going on about course mates who had ended up flying Dash 8s. Others felt they had the God given right to be at BA. The only thing I was sneering at was that their intial training cost them an extra 35K over mine! And I could see F all difference in the end product!

[inner]

Ok, i don't work RYR and i know you have to pay a lot BUT if you are in there you do a lot of hours, gain experience and the pay is not that bad.

After tax deduction, social security costs and pension scheme you still should have between 2000 and 3000 eur a month, perhaps more.

Not bad for a starting job.

grtz

[wheelie my boeing]

Ok, so why is it that FO's are being told to expect between 400 and 500 hours this year as 250 FO's are to be recruited in the winter... waaaaaaait? Don't they get paid per SCHEDULED block hour as well? So, if you are flying between 400 and 500 hours this year, you can take a swipe off that amount as you aren't going to be on time ALL the time, right??
Ah well... they are a fantastic airline after all. I mean, come on, you even get to bring your own sandwiches to work! AND WATER? Blimey.
Back to serious stuff though, if you are doing between 400 and 500 hours per year in your first year, then your income will be embarrassing (it's true, like it or not).

[BerksFlyer]

wheelie, I don't understand what you're saying. Most of your fellow OAA integrated students end up at Ryanair, I thought you were saying about how superior APPFO students were? Surely they're above Ryanair and only all those no-hoper modular students, who weren't good enough to get on integrated courses, should be getting these 'rubbish' jobs?

[Diamond_Dog]

There is so much sh:mad:t on this site.. It makes me laugh.. Especially when it comes to the (Irish) airline I presently work for. Honestly, what are so many people babbling on about? Get in and get on!

I did approx 70h last month and I'm flying approx 100h this month. That's 170h in 2 months. That equates to about 40% of the 400h-500h per year people are touting (or have just read from Pilot's Jobs Network..) on here in just 2 months..

Granted there are many variables such as base, time of year, staffing levels etc.. I would suggest 400-500h would be a pretty conservative estimate of what you might do.. I would say a more reasonable estimate would be 700h-800h.. Some people do more. Especially the skippers right now. (Think about that when considering why alot of FO's are being hired).

Just another random point for people who cry about paying for TR's (don't get me wrong i wish it was free, but honestly, does it come for free anywhere now?)

British Airways as a very good example. (An airline i can now apply to direct entry with my current hours). Free type rating for cadet newbies! :) Or is it? :bored: Direct Entry starting 'basic' salary is approx £48000.. Had I passed selection straight out of integrated school my cadet salary this year would be approx £32000 'basic'. The cadet salary then comes up to meet Direct Entry salary within 5 years. But just looking at year 1. £48000-£32000 =£16000 which BA have just taken toward the TR, Line Training, cuban cigars... whatever. You're down 16 grand in year 1 alone! The disparity would get progressively less over the next 4 years as you come to meet Direct Entry salary but thats 16 grand just in 1 year. What's the final figure? (Rhetorical question).

FR TR on its own costs approx 20 grand. Just THINK about it a bit.. Ok no risk with BA etc as you didnt pay up front but thats all for you to weigh up. Nothing is free anymore. It's just how they do the numbers..

It's all food for thought. I'm not criticizing peoples choices or how any of the airlines work. People need to realise that everything has changed and it will never go back to the way it was. Whatever reasons people want to come up with for that will ultimately change NOTHING!

Airlines will be going bust soon with recession, winter, credit crunch and oil prices (which will increase yet more as the west enters winter). When they do go bust the job market will be saturated with rated and experienced airline pilots. Newbies will then have yet fewer opportunities to get through the door. Alot of people will soon be CPL/IR, no TR, plenty of debt already and a very low chance of getting in the airlines. (That's to add to all the already crowded hold pools). Sad but true.

If you really want this, take the first opportunity you get. Take some risks (as best as you can calculate them). Be prepared to take the rough with the smooth.

For me, i wanted to do this since the day i saw my first plane.. I'm happy spending my working life doing this. I went through alot of sh:mad:t to get here and asked myself at several points. Is what im doing to myself really worth it? But i made it. It wasn't rosey. It's hard work and it can be very pricey!

I'm an FO on just over 500h. I'm on about 50 grand a year! That's in the region of a prop Captain at Flybe.. Joke isn't it.. Can i complain? Personally I dont really care about money.. Just my debts. When they're dead i may well just leave the airlines and p:mad:ss off to Africa, knock on doors and find a job with the likes of MAF medivacing people from dirt strips with my stick and rudder skills. Who knows.. Chase your dream, don't hang around umming and arring and reading all this cr:mad:p. Get in and get on. Get the hours.. Increase the options available to you and with it your potential..

Howard Hughes is long dead (allegedly but almost certainly).. Michael O'leary is very much alive..

Randomness over..

Good luck peeps.. :ok:

[CamelhAir]

Personally I dont really care about money..

Oh dear, not another 500hr FO "not caring" about money. WTF?? This is a job, not a charity. When you have more than 500hrs and the novelty has worn off, you will care very very much about money. And you will realise that people like you now are ruining your future ambition to make lots of money.
Wake up and smell the coffee. You do a job to earn money. Period. If you wanna play pilot, do it on flight sim and leave the real jobs for the professionals who want to be paid handsomely and deservedly for their services.

I would say 400-500hrs a year for FO's is very likely over the next year, as the FR start grounding the aircraft. Remember there are plenty of willing donkeys coming through the cadet system to keep the numbers topped up. And, crucially, watch all those who plan to leave not doing so as the jobs dry up. The demographics are not on your side. Which, incidentally, screws up the plans of all those "i don't give a f**k , im only here for 2 years" tossers who think they don't need REPA. You're here for the long haul boys and girls, so start looking out for yourselves.
Remember, MOL wanted to pull out of STN entirely until convinced otherwise by MC.

[Diamond_Dog]

I hear you Camelhair. But you do talk alot of cr:mad:p and it is the same old cr:mad:p from you all the time. I joined REPA and found it to be about as useless as this website.. I'm a member of BALPA there isn't much else i can do. Like you so well quoted i dont care about money. Some of my friends are on 20 grand a year in their 9-5 desk jobs, 5 days a week. I'm on 50 grand as a newbie at what i do. I'm getting paid that to work 14 days a month. I didn't want to stack shelves from the age of 6. I wanted to be a pilot. So I'm happy. I wouldn't say flying an airliner is much of a hobbie like I would to hands on flying but it is nearer to this for me than shelve stacking. I wasn't around during the cigar smoking days on flight decks. When only the rich could afford to fly as a result of monopoly and high overheads. What should I petition for? 70 grand a year? In todays market (not yester years) my income for my level of experience in this industry is in my view.. reasonable.

Oh no.. I'm getting embroiled.. Until the next time i feel like being sick..

[Lawn Mower]

The backhanders paid by OAA to the various airlines could have something to do with it!

[BerksFlyer]

The backhanders paid by OAA to the various airlines could have something to do with it!

Wouldn't surprise me if that was true!

A kind of 'you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours' deal with the airlines. Airlines get money and pilots, OAA gets money because it boasts that the airlines think OAA is best and hence people pay the premium for their training.

:E

[leeds 65]

'Remember there are plenty of willing donkeys coming through the cadet system to keep the numbers topped up.'

silly comment.

as opposed to the 'donkeys' paying for types with the likes of easyjet,flybe etc.or getting 'bonded' by airlines,and then getting small pay packets for the next few years.or the integrated 'donkeys' paying vast sums for the CHANCE to be with BA.

i think its about time you woke and smelt the coffee.airline pay does NOT warrent huge sums.your not a bloody rare brain surgeon in demand.oaa churns out hundreds each year.and thats one flight school.

i cant stand snobbery and do gooders,put the head down,push lnav/vnav and earn your tidy number.As opposed to your mate workin like a ...... on a buildin site earning half your amount.

camelhair seems to think

pilot= licence for amazing pay,free gym membership,free golf membership,free worldwide travel for half the extended family,free hotels,free car rentals etc etc

i think your deluded sadly,your believing the oaa marketing.

back on topic!=ryanair im sure will stop recruiting prob for a few months then start up again.there will be plenty of willing and able 'donkeys' i can assue you.and great

[BerksFlyer]

as opposed to the 'donkeys' paying for types with the likes of easyjet,flybe etc.or getting 'bonded' by airlines,and then getting small pay packets for the next few years.or the integrated 'donkeys' paying vast sums for the CHANCE to be with BA

flybe don't charge for TR, easyjet pay you during training.


back on topic!=ryanair im sure will stop recruiting prob for a few months then start up again.there will be plenty of willing and able 'donkeys' i can assue you.and great

As is well documented, they make a profit from training cadets, so I wouldn't be too sure about that.

Leeds 65,

I understand what you're saying, but I don't know why you wouldn't want to be paid as much as possible and be treated as well as possible. Pilots seem to the only professionals so keen on talking themselves down. I don't understand it! You don't see this attitude from any other profession. It's in your best interest to get apaid well and be treated well and I can't see why you would want to talk yourself down as a professional who is well trained and skilled. Pilots are skilled and do have a lot of responsibility, why can't pilots pull together and hope for the best treatment they can possibly get!?

[tupues]

The problem is you are only on £50k if you get the hours. Flying 900hrs on a brookfield contract will get you £49960 a year. Flying 400 brings you down to around £22k. Thats a pretty sharp pay swing to factor into loan/morgage/car repayment....

[leeds 65]

tupues and berkflyer points taken.yes you will fly less as winter is slow and recession close/in process.so thats a good point.however once your in the door the level of progression and pay is FAST.captain prob 5 years now,good times 3.line training captain,do sfi,tre etc etc.
most legacy carriers progression is slower more years required as fo??

ryr scheme at least there is a job at the end if you work hard,a lot of ctc people are in never ending hold pools etc.

yes pilots have a lot of responsibilty etc.they do get paid well,ryr max is between 160-170 k euro.if your floating you get even more.contract=tax benefits too if your prudent.to expect more than this is pushing the boat however it is welcome!!

BACK ON TOPIC!= iv heard(rumour) ryr will stop recruiting for a while so the newbies can get trained up during the slow winter/recession etc.remember after base training you get paid(small).there not going to have hundreds of cadets getting paid with no opportunity to fly /slower deliveries.it will pick up again tho.plus an airline with loads of newbies and few captains is not sustainable or safe!

[CamelhAir]

BerksFlyer, some sense here thankfully. I echo your comments, why on earth do pilots talk themselves down so much? Too much propaganda from MOL perhaps and 20 years olds like leeds 65 who don't have the life experience to make an independent judgement as to his/her worth.

ryr max is between 160-170 k euro.

Bollox, pure ryr propaganda. Bandying around imaginary figures is not helpful.

camelhair seems to think

pilot= licence for amazing pay,free gym membership,free golf membership,free worldwide travel for half the extended family,free hotels,free car rentals etc etc

Considering I was flying airliners when you were in primary school, I think you'll understand how I'm a little peeved that attitudes like yours have allowed my real take home pay to be cut by an enormous amount in the last few years. You may feel you're not worth much, but plenty of us consider otherwise.

i think its about time you woke and smelt the coffee.airline pay does NOT warrent huge sums.

Why not? When was the last time you dealt with an airbourne emergency and held the lives of 190 people in your hands? Which is 189 more than a brain surgeon is responsible for. Please explain exactly why an airline pilot should be not be compensated for the responsibility he holds. Or perhaps you have no concept of the responsibility, in which case a flight deck is not for you.

plus an airline with loads of newbies and few captains is not sustainable

It's been like this for years.

most legacy carriers progression is slower more years required as fo??

But most legacy carriers pay more to FO's than ryr pay to captains. Ryr captain basic is about the same as EI FO year 1. Sector pay about the same and they also get a proper pension.

[breakbreak]

guess automation played a big part. there is a constant pressure from airline management teams for more computerised systems.
This cuts down the cost of training, maintenance and since pilot's workload is reduced so is the salary.

[BerksFlyer]

guess automation played a big part. there is a constant pressure from airline management teams for more computerised systems.
This cuts down the cost of training, maintenance and since pilot's workload is reduced so is the salary.

Every profession is the same though. Just to use one example: Accountants benefit from the use of computers with programs like Sage, which have cut down workload. No accountants are finding excuses for their pay to be lowered however.

[breakbreak]

becoming chartered accountant these days is much easier though and money is good only if you are department manager or finance director.

[leeds 65]

ok points taken,thank you.

a ryanair line training captain/sfi/tre does earn a tidy sum no doubt about that ,certainly a lot closer to 160k EURO than 100 k i can assure of that.

talking myself down is a bit harsh,im just being brutally honest in my observations.look at this situation logically.of course pay increases would be welcome anytime ,the more the better.However take a step back and look at the situation.ryr is a european low cost short/medium haul carrier to expect excessive sums of money is ridiculous however it would be welcome.now compare ryrs pay to logan air or someother regional in the states.massive diff isnt there.ryr and other pilots nagging about pay all the time is a bit rich i think.the top ryr salary would be probably close to the top salary bracket in most societies,as opposed to the poor son of a b....ch in the states flying around in a TP or commuter jet on buttons.in my opinion a pilot salary is decent nothing to complain about,your going to be well off etc etc,more is welcome but for short haul europe=pushing the boat.im sure most people with agree with that interpretation.

ill state again pay increase welcome but certainly not to be expected and for ryrs operation thats fair enough.end of

yes money in accountancy is good but the first few years your on ****e.

[whizzer]

I see ur back slagging off everyone and everything.

If you were flying airliners while we were in school then whos fault is it for accepting diminishing t&c's?????? The 12 yr old playing fooball and doing his homework or the people who vote "yes"????

And with all ur VAST experience im sure there are plenty of carriers out there with the decent pension and free water u so obviously crave !!!!


Now give it a rest and stop trying to **** all over peoples expectations. I really doubt there are many here who are sooooo blinkered as u portray to understand that ryr are a unique entity. Someone who is willing to actually answer an email about a job or even give u the chance to get onto the first rung of the ladder!!!!

:ok:

[its easy]

Can I just say nice one for this. I am about to finish TR for RYR. So much you hear beforehand and so little is true.

[Chintito]

Returning vagely to the thread subject does anyone have any advice for a wantaway 200hr 737 pilot to get a look in with Ryanair? My current roster allows me very little time to go home to see my family in the UK and I dont know if i can take this any longer.
Can anyone tell me if their 500 hr requirement is open for negotiation and who i can get in touch with for advice.

[ford cortina]

Chintito, mate forgetit. They are so up tight, it's a wonder their bums don't fall off. Now on the first page of pilot recuitment they ask for this:

"737 Rated First Officers - Pilots who have at least 1,500 hours JAR 25 experience and 500 hours total time on the B737-300 to 900 series with an established airline may be considered for a First Officer’s position."

Even BA don't do that!

Breakbreak, Yes i fly a new, (few months old, not RYR) 800, with a glass cockpit. It is easier, however when the side peels off an aircraft, Quantas, then we really do earn our money. I wish that people would realise that small point and help the rest of us fight for our rights.

When a Doctor makes a mistake the patient dies, when a Attorneymakes a mistake his client dies, when a Pilot makes a mistake He dies. Just a thought

[Nearly There]

Has anyone who left there CV on the 5th July open day heard anything yet?
Cheers
NT

[EK4457]

Nope. I don't know of anyone else being called forward from that open day either. A bit strange to see they have another one arranged for this weekend too.

Glad it's not just me then....:eek:

EK

[Flying Wild]

A couple of guys I know who were at the July open day got a call from the recruiting guy the following week to see if they were interested in coming for an interview.

[MrHorgy]

Whoa Whoa Whoa....

OAA have a "wall of shame"? I can just see it now, a group of well to-do lads/ladies sitting round in armchairs reminising about how glorious their training was, and how fair the industry is, yet shunning the poor pilot in the corner who is not worthy of the wall. :ugh:

Horgy

[Day_Dreamer]

Horgy

When you have something intelligent to say, make sure others understand you when you post.

There is a notice board at OAA with the names of those who have successfully obtained jobs, both via the Waypoint scheme and Integrated.
By no means is it selective, and is just a statement of fact.

What this has to do with this thread I am at a loss to understand.
As you have posted so many times, maybe by now you would have understood how to post on topic.

[wheelie my boeing]

Agreed. It is a statement of fact. Get a job, OAA put you on the list. Why not?!