World Record Holder G-BOAD Badly Damaged (Merged)

[HeathrowAirport]

This is News!

This has made me feel really annoyed and angry that New york has been able to get this far with her. What are BA doing about this apart from sitting on there harris watching live transactions on there website with a :-D on there face. They should be protecting the one and only thing that gave them pride and joy.

Not only is it a Concorde it's G-BOAD the World record Holder: Round the world in both directions and fastest atlantic crossing in both directions. Only other Concorde to get a record was G-BOAC as fastest Ground speed.

I know some of you hate Concorde to guts- evident on TeamSpeak - when i mention Concorde or you see me you say Concorde is **** and it's crap and it's this and that. But someone like me who enjoys her and is obsessed this really does show that you the people of the UK are letting muppets like that destroy our heritage and our only successful airplane - even though part french but we came up with the idea.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/mateu21/June302008Concorde004.jpg

I mean look at her, does she deserve that?

What is happening to G-BOAD (caution: disturbing photos) • NYCAviation.com (http://nycaviation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12589)

Do something for once and liven up and see what is happened to Concorde.

Robbie :cry: :cry: :cry:

[captain_flynn]

Concorde was one of my favourite planes and I loved seeing her fly over when I lived near heathrow.

Its a shame she isnt being looked after. How did the nose 'break' like that?

[HeathrowAirport]

Someone decided to drive a "Bus or Lorry into it"

[Tiger_mate]

Happy to report though that the aircraft 'preserved' in Barbados is very well looked after and an awesome show with some very clever CGI and lighting/noise effects is included. By far the best use of a Concorde airframe that I have witnessed.

Manchester would do well to replicate the same when their hangar is built around Concorde.

[NutLoose]

Has lost its nose of late and is looking tired........... Shame to see one suffering from the ravages of time and the enviroment it lives in. Picture from the site listed below, more pics on the link....:uhoh:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l233/mateu21/June302008Concorde027.jpg

For more Pictures of the old girl see

What is happening to G-BOAD (caution: disturbing photos) • NYCAviation.com (http://nycaviation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12589)

[Obie]

Have a look at some Concorde pics at...

Airliners.net | Airplanes - Aviation - Aircraft- Aircraft Photos & News (http://www.airliners.net)

That will make you feel better! ( or perhaps worse? )

[EpsilonVaz]

That is a sad, sad sight :(

[CityofFlight]

The sacrilege!

I was at the ceremony when the BA Concorde arrived at Boeing Field in Seattle. It was a very moving passing of stewardship from the crew who'd been flying her for much of their careers, to Boeing Museum of Flight. The spectators and press were in awe of the true emotion when the log book was exchanged, along with some great anecdotes.

I can honestly say that she is proudly on display and doing well. As should be.

[Airbubba]

Is this the plane that was parked for years at JFK a couple of decades ago?

[20driver]

The Intrepid organization which I think has care of this plane is in serious deep financial goo. The overhaul of the ship is way over budget and work may have actually stopped waiting for $$$$. ( A carrier overhaul going over budget - that must be a first!!!)
I suspect Concorde is suffering the same lack of funds. Really does look bad for NYC.
20driver

[Jumbo744]

this is totally unacceptable, what a shame :mad:

[anartificialhorizon]

What on earth happened to the nose?

It looks like it has been sawn off ! The attachment for the radome is aft so was it cut off?

Absolute travesty. Should have been looked after.....

[stormin norman]

Very Sad.The good people of Barbados have put theirs under cover.
Says a lot about America at the moment.Can we get it back ?

[itwilldoatrip]

Agree totally stormin. They shouldn't have been given it the first place it's not a Boeing so it ain't going (to be looked after).

Lets start a poll and give it to GBOY in No 10.
:ugh:

[CityofFlight]

With the nose cone off like that, I'm prepared for the next picture to have gang graffitti all over the body. If anyone has an explanation on said nose job, I'd love to understand it.


In the meantime, as an American, I'm embarrassed. :ouch:

[brakedwell]

I looks as if the nose was removed by a passing truck.

[Will Hung]

Such an indignity for such a great lady who was so betrayed.

[Four Fishes]

I sent an email to Mayor Bloomberg urging him to intervene and not to let this lovely old plane fall into further disrepair.

E-MAIL:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mayor.html

[heli_port]

My dream was always to fly that beautiful lady but sadly it was not to be , i was quite happy this morning until i saw that picture...

You crazy crazy heartless yanks :{

[scrivenger]

Terribly sad, ..........appears to reflect the state of aviation in general now, in particular in the US!

[d71146]

Its a lovely set of photos wish the same could be said for the state of the ship,
Someone needs a good kick up the a*s for letting this happen.

[D O Guerrero]

I feel sick... Let's get it back.
Anyone not too grief stricken to suggest a way to get this some national attention?

[NutLoose]

HeathrowAirport, Sorry did not try to Gazzump your thread, I had originally posted in the Pilots forum unaware of your excellent item on her, but was moved to here. I to feel as you it is discusting the way she has been treated.

It is good to see someone so young passionate about our Aviation History.:ok:

See

http://www.pprune.org/forums/aviation-history-nostalgia/333495-world-record-holder-g-boad-badly-damaged.html

[anartificialhorizon]

What rubs salt in the wound is that G-BOAD was the best ship....

Always did the round the world chaters, was the Singapore Airlines half and half aircraft and holds some of the Concorde speed records....

Also the preferred crew training ship as the most reliable in the BA fleet.

A really sad story.

Do BA still own it ?

[Flight Detent]

Hey Guys,
especially "CityofFlight",

I was over in Seattle a couple of years ago, and since the Boeing machinists strike was on at the time, found time to visit the Boeing Museum.
The museum itself was really great, but across the road in the holding yard was a very different story...
The B747-100, the B727-200, the B737-100, the B707 (ex-AF1) and especially the ex-BA Concorde, I thought were in varying stages of decay, though the Concorde was marginally in better condition, there's no cover over there.
Having been through the Concorde displays at both La Borge Air Museum near Paris and at the Duxford Imperial Air Museum near Cambridge in England, I can say with confidence that the Seattle exhibit is both in the worst condition, and is the most difficult to see anything.
By that I mean all that clear perspex mounted inside absolutely everywhere, I couldn't actually see into the flight deck hardly at all, very disappointing!

I think only the French and British ones were housed undercover, though the British one only relatively recently!

Cheers...FD...:cool:

[Terry McCassey]

America - In the eyes of the world, you should be totally, utterly and completey ashamed of yourself ! ! ! I could do a better job of looking after her in my back garden. Shame on you . . .

[Taildragger67]

anartificialhorizon,

British Airways remains the legal owner of all seven G-BOA- Concorde airframes; they are effectively on loan (doubtless under various contracts) to where ever they are. Hence if the organisation which owns the USS Intrepid did indeed go belly-up, BA would have rights to come in & reclaim -AD; The Intrepid's owners would not be legally able to sell her to raise funds.

[VfrpilotPB/2]

Do you really think the Yanks care, the only aircraft that could replicate the Concord speed, distance and good looks was the SR71, sadly there was not much room for pax or trolly dollys, and the US Army Airforce needed legions of man to look after the thing.

Sorry but they didnt come up with the idea, nor did they have the Balls to build such a craft, so it may stay with a "Crumped Nose" for a long time!:=

Peter R-B ex pax in that one!!:ok:

[ChristiaanJ]

I think only the French and British ones were housed undercover, though the British one only relatively recently!Since they're all French or British, I presume you mean 'the ones in France or Britain'... :)

Not quite true... F-BVFA is under cover in the Smithsonian and G-BOAE is under cover in Barbados.

Neither is being under cover imperative... after all they were outside most of their lives.... BUT, it requires a lot more maintenance.

When that maintenance is forthcoming, the aircraft will last a long time.
Just look at G-BOAF at Filton or F-BVFC at Toulouse, both outside.

When it's not, the aircraft DO deteriorate.
F-WTSA at Orly is the worst example, with G-BOAD in NY now a close second.

Out of the 20 Concordes that flew, 18 are still around, surely a record....
Let's hope we can keep it that way!

[WQ - ingo]

Photos: Aerospatiale-BAC Concorde 102 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/British-Airways/Aerospatiale-BAC-Concorde-102/0441886/L/&tbl=photo_info&photo_nr=3&sok=WHERE__%28aircraft_generic_%3D_%27Sud-BAC_Concorde%27_OR_aircraft_generic_%3D_%27Aerospatiale-British_Aerospace_Concorde%27_OR_aircraft_generic_%3D_%27Aer ospatiale-BAC_Concorde%27%29_&sort=_order_by_views_DESC_&prev_id=0028628&next_id=0473353)

[wub]

Pretty shocking that the yanks can let this happen. At least G-BOAA is in good hands at East Fortune:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/wub_01/IMG_3656.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/wub_01/IMG_3733.jpg

[NutLoose]

Just a shame East Fortune dumped all the other treasures that were in that hangar elsewhere in not so perfect conditions to allow concorde that luxury........

[rogerk]

I flew in to Charles de Gaulle yesterday and noticed that Air France displays one of theirs on a plinth at the entrance to the airport.

As a nation do we not have any pride in our achievements ??

Sometimes I wonder.

:{:{

[Tempsford]

I say whoa!

Yes the a/c is damaged. It happens. The location of the NY Concorde is not ideal, but it is where it is. The damage appears to be the radome. Is that the radar scanner mount that can be seen in the photo? If so the bit behind it is the fwd pressure bulkhead. Therefore, it may well be that a new radome is required. I am sure that there are still spare radomes around?

Why do some folk seek the slightest opportunity on this site to slag folk off? Yup TIC stuff is great fun, and often entertaining, but in defence of our American cousins, not deserved on this occasion.

Temps

[MarkD]

temps

yes sh!t does happen but you get it fixed or at least cover the exposed area FFS. Repaint in SQ colours and ship to SIN and I bet there would be a more than acceptable home for it where it wouldn't get bashed by anything short of an act of god.

[ALTSEL]

Bring her home..........NYC does no deserve such a fantastic machine

[Human Factor]

BA are sending engineers out to NYC shortly to assess the damage and repair it.:ok:

[WG774]

Try to look on the bright side. The Intrepid museum has never looked after G-BOAD adequately. If the organisation goes under, there will be a good chance that she will end up in the hands of an organisation that will treat her with respect.

[Noah Zark.]

I'm not sure if this is in the correct forum. If not, could the Mods oblige and re-site if necessary, but, has anyone any update on G-BOAD since it was damaged? Any repairs,etc? Any hope of getting it home? Anything?

[Vulcan 903]

The last update taken from CONCORDE SST : LATEST NEWS (http://www.concordesst.com/latestnews.html)

"Sources close to BA say that they not sure if this was accidental or deliberate damage to the aircraft.

Alpha Delta has sat neglected on an old airfield on the outskirts of the city, while her normal home at the Intrepid museum was being renovated. She was due to be returned in the autumn. The relationship between the Intrepid Museum and the sports complex who tenant the airfield apparently broke down many months back.

The aviator complex have appeared to lose interest in the aircraft, leading to the failure in the measures they had put in place to protect the aircraft.

British Airways are now taking a very keen interest in sorting out the issues surrounding the loan of the aircraft to the Intrepid Museum. The museum have a ten year long agreement running to 2013, but this requires certain conditions to be meet, which are obviously not currently being fulfilled presently and BA will want to know why.

Ex Concorde engineers have been discussing the plans for the aircraft's nose. These include repairing the original structure, should it still be in one piece, fabricating a new glass fibre nose cone, or shipping out the “spare” nose cone that BA have in their own Heathrow museum to the aircraft. The latter is presently seen as un-lightly as they last thing BA would want would be for the spare to be similarly damaged.

The BA engineering teams will have to ensure that no other damaged has occurred to the droop nose structure before new radome can be fitted, when this is inspected this will also provide an ideal opportunity to inspect further areas of the aircraft for deterioration.

The New York aviation enthusiast community are considering pulling together a team to look after this aircraft. Similarly to other museum enthusiastic teams of volunteers work very well and can make great strides in aircraft preservation."

[olympus]

Very slight thread drift...

G-BOAD was the only Concorde I was fortunate enough to fly on. I have a certificate somewhere but if memory serves it was around 1977/8, BAH-LHR and the aircraft was painted one side in Singapore Airlines colours and the other normal BA colours.

I recall that we all had to sit in the forward cabin for take-off but were allowed to move once the seatbelt sign was turned off.

[Vulcan 903]

Drifting further, G-BOAB was my lucky go at Supersonic travel - August 1996!

[Shaggy Sheep Driver]

G-BOAD, August 1999, Manchester to Paris (via the Bay of Biscay for mach 2.02 at 60,000 ft) in the jump seat for the entire flight, push back at Man to shut down at CDG.

A major aviation memory for me!

SSD

[Noah Zark.]

My own "claim to fame" was that I was extremely fortunate to see BOAD in the hangar at Filton, brand new, prior to delivery, utterly pristine and beautiful.
It makes me sick to see it in its present condition. It was bad enough before it was moved. When it was alongside Intrepid on its barge (!), it had dirty rain streaks down the fuselage, and where rain had sat on top of its wings, then evaporated, there were black concentric rings.
It was a disgrace. Whoever let it go there in the first place wants f:mad: with the curly end of a Rajah's slipper!

[Biggles1049]

Here's a photo of it in 1980 as G-N94AD
http://www.abpic.co.uk/images/thumbs/1034622_t.jpg

to see a larger image click link below
BAC Concorde, G-N94AD, Singapore Airlines / British Airways (http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1034622/)

[SPIT]

Hi
I would like to bet that if the USA had invented it (Concorde) there would a lot of interest about it's upkeep ????:ok::ok:

[jackuk]

Once of my best Concorde images was of AD on her final fight leaving LHR on 10th Nov 2003.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff159/jackuk10/G-BOADlastflight1.jpg

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff159/jackuk10/IMG_4536LastflightAD2.jpg

[Noah Zark.]

Nice pix, Jackuk. I wish it was just arriving back!

[Corsairoz]

On Wednesday this week, I was fortunate to have a morning in New York free while the wife went off shopping. Remembering this thread I sloped off to the newly re-opened Intrepid Air and Space Museum to check up on Concorde G-BOAD.

I think everyone who saw G-BOAD badly damaged in an earlier post after being struck by a truck was somewhat traumatised by her fate. I am happy to report that she is now looking in excellent shape albeit in a somewhat strange setting surrounded by USA military exhibits and the New York Harbour views.

The Concorde now sits on a completely rebuilt dock with (I think) some $80M spent on the museum refurbishment.

Here is what I found and some pictures that I took. Opinions are mine and mine alone. Apologies for the grey overcast day.

Firstly, a distant view from the top of the Rockefeller Centre. Hudson River in the background.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/corsairoz/IMG_0438.jpg

1. On the Pier next to the USS Intrepid, open for public walkthroughs.My guess would be that over time the Museum will fill those big open spaces with other aircraft.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/corsairoz/IMG_0716.jpg

2. Public entry through centre door, exit at forward.Shadow under the starboard wing is one of the RR Olympus engines encased in perspex but not opened to see the inner workings.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/corsairoz/IMG_0533.jpg

3. Seemingly brand new nose section. No sign of the repair after the much publicised damage by the truck. I could find no-one to tell me anything about the repair.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/corsairoz/IMG_0540.jpg

4. Interior looking aft from centre door, looking perfect and barrier for viewing only, so protected from visitor damage.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/corsairoz/IMG_0535.jpg

5. Public walkthrough forward cabin has a strange perspex cover to the (perfect condition) seats. I didn't like it.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/corsairoz/IMG_0536.jpg

6. Flightdeck barriered and protected but looking immaculate.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/corsairoz/IMG_0537.jpg

7. She is sitting on a corner of the dock, New york tugs and the US Navy ships passing her daily. Paintwork looked perfect, must be newly done. Its the USS Iwo Jima, by the way, co-incidentally leaving port during my visit to Intrepid..

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/corsairoz/IMG_0710.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/corsairoz/IMG_0657.jpg

8. Customers of the open air cafe can shelter under G-BOAD when the rains falls.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/corsairoz/IMG_0707.jpg

All in all, looking superficially great. My only criticisms are:

There are no other civil aircraft in the museum so Concorde does seem somewhat incongruous.

None are in the photos, but seagulls were much in evidence sitting on the tail. Over a short time, the obvious damage will occur.

Also the entry and exit interior door surrounds are already heavily graffitied. As there is no interior manning this is hardly surprising. I could not actually bring myself to take a photo of it. I have no idea if this was before or since the re-opening.

But most disapointing was that there was no panels anywhere telling visitors anything. British Airways Concorde. And that was it. No external descriptive plates, no internal panels with history or description and no-one with any knowledge to tell her story. The one and only attendant withing 100 metres was a youth of maybe 19/20 simply and silently checking entry tickets at the bottom of the Concorde's steps.

The museum guidebook page was, however, excellent. But I won't put a scan of it here for copyright reasons.

All, in all, much better than I was expecting and I heartily recommend a visit. $18 very well spent if only to touch and pay respects to a story we all know well..

The other aircraft, a 'Growler' submarine and the Intrepid herself were all good fun.

......way better than shopping......

Trevor

[hurn]

Well she's looking good and seems non the worse for the accident.

Thanks for posting the pictures.