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Upslope
17th Jun 2008, 08:56
Hi There,
Please bear with me as any help or contacts would be greatly appreciated.
I have been flying single pilot for two private owners on both a PA-46 and a PA-34 in a corporate role and have just over 900TT. The type of flying especially in the PA-46 is pressurized airways IFR with destinations all over Europe and it has been a huge learning curve over the last year.

I have been asking around and it seems the general opinion is that if I want to move on to a corporate operator, I have to have a type rating.
Now I am on the side of the anti-pay brigade, but apart from the moral arguement, is this now the case that someone like me would have to pay for their initial type or are there still operators who type and bond?

I have one type to date and that was paid for, but I have spoken to a couple of jet operators who are willing to offer me a position but want a type rating, paid for by me. I would like to make it clear that I have absolutely no axe to grind here, I am genuinely looking for the facts. I think that in general the bonding system is very fair and would happily enter into one with the right company, if such a thing still exists.

Like I say any advice or contacts will be greatly recieved and PM's are welcome, but please don't turn this into a pay or not to pay debate.

Many Thanks in advance,

flugfisch
17th Jun 2008, 15:02
Try DC-Aviation in Germany. They pay for a Rating and also take low hours .
For a start is not bad.
:suspect:

Upslope
18th Jun 2008, 08:28
Thanks for that, Any other comments at all folks? I'd really appreciate some advice!!
Thanks

Upslope
18th Jun 2008, 11:05
Thanks SM I wish there were more helpful people like you on here!!
PS Check your PM's

Finals19
18th Jun 2008, 12:30
Did someone say 900hrs is considered "low hours" ? Just curious as I thought <500 was low, or are requirements changing yet again?

I've found that there are still some reputable operators who will bond as opposed to want a type, but it does seem like that is changing. I am in a similar position to original poster at 1100hrs and 800 m/e in Air Taxi, and finding the TR thing is coming up more and more as the pilot has to pay out.

People are saying that there are TP operators out there crying out for guys, but just doesn't seem the case right now (no luck for me yet!) although that could be more of a time-of-year kind of thing.

cldrvr
18th Jun 2008, 12:41
All of the reputable operators will bond, however the market is not as tight as it was and the requirements are slowly creeping up, the bigger iron will now regularly hire guys/gals with 1-2,000 hrs for the right seat. Supply and demand, there are a lot more pilots out there looking for work then only a year ago. 200 hour guys are going to struggle.

PicMas
18th Jun 2008, 18:46
200 hour guys are going to struggle.
And there is the incentive to NOT be a 200 hour guy longer than necessary.

I am a 2400 hour guy lucky enough to fly biz-jet. Funnily, I do the odd freelance flight on GA-piston equipment. I could fill my schedule with these flights without any problems. Its piston its single and twin its fun its paid its steam gauges, and apparently nobody wants to fly it:confused:

So if the market requires 1000-2000h hours, they are there to be flown on all kinds of equipment - don't be the struggling 200 hour guy.

Upslope
18th Jun 2008, 20:34
I agree, There are flying jobs about but you would be surprised at how many people turn there noses up or are not confident enough to do them.

I have and still really enjoyed GA flying, but the big draw back is lots of time spent on your todd and I already know all of my own stories. The plus though is that you learn an awful lot very quickly as you have to.

Thanks for the heads up and please feel free to keep posting or Pm-ing

Cheers