Tiger News

[flyer_18-737]

So he wasn't "boned"

Shelly Roberts named Tiger Airways' managing directorFORMER Macquarie Bank executive Shelly Roberts was today appointed to run the Australian offshoot of Singapore based Tiger Airways.
Ms Roberts, who was asset director at Macquarie Airports and held a Sydney Airport Corporation board seat, will be managing director Tiger Australia.
She replaces Chris Ward, who will move to Incheon Tiger Airways, the airline group's new South Korean business
-She is ex Easyjet director also

[Teal]

From today's Age newspaper:

http://business.theage.com.au/tiger-dumps-newcastle-route-20080611-2otg.html


Tiger dumps Newcastle route
Tiger Airways will cut its underperforming daily service between Melbourne and Newcastle from August.
Only seven months after launching its Australian operations Tiger has said it will need to reallocate its resources to meet demand.
''This has resulted in some unforeseen changes to the schedule, including suspending of services to Newcastle from 11 August 2008.'' said Tiger spokesman Matt Hobbs.
Passengers will be able to choose an alternative destination or date change without additional charges, or receive a full refund.
Tiger was hopeful that its Newcastle service would facilitate some Sydney-bound passengers after the airline was unable to secure a deal to fly into the harbour city. Mr Hobbs said Tiger would not rule out revisiting talks with Sydney Airport.
It comes a week after Tiger's main rival Jetstar increased its Melbourne to Newcastle service from double daily to three times a day.

Macquarie Airports director Shelley Roberts will head up Tiger Airways Australian operations after the airline announced her as its new managing director.
Ms Roberts, who is also a Sydney Airport board member, will take over from current managing director Chris Ward, who has been appointed managing director of Incheon Tiger Airways based in South Korea.
Ms Roberts, who will take over the role next month, is a chartered accountant who has previously worked as a senior executive with easyJet in Europe.
She is asset director at Macquarie Airports.
Tiger Airways chief executive Tony Davis said Ms Roberts and Mr Ward would produce growth for the airline in a sector that was feeling the pinch from high fuel prices.
Shelley Roberts brings a wealth of commercial and aviation experience to the role of managing director, he said.
In her new position with Tiger Airways, she will lead our Australian operation in its next stage of growth, including the establishment of more bases (and) further development of our network..

[Tiger01]

Does anybody know if tiger has "officially" dumped the ROK - MEL route as their are no bookings able to be made ofter October 24?

[flyer_18-737]

I would say so, but Im still curious at MEL-Darwin anyone heard anything?

[BPA]

And this is what their CEO said yesterday;

Speaking today, Tiger Airways CEO, Tony Davis said:

“The price of fuel is the canary in the mine that has simply highlighted the lack of cost discipline of our competitors. Tiger Airways is clearly now the undisputed low fare leader in Australia and we are determined to give even more Australians access to genuine low fares.

Whilst other airlines are busy increasing fuel surcharges, cutting routes and scrambling to reduce wasteful expenditure, Tiger is busy, simply providing the lowest fares and best value for money across Australia. We are also keen to use our Australian based aircraft and crews to mount international services to fill the gaps left by Qantas/Jetstar as soon as we can convince the Australian government to allow Tiger Airways Australia access to these routes.

Do yourself a favour Australia– don’t pay for the mistakes of the other airlines.

Perhaps people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Jabawocky]

Mr Hobbs said Tiger would not rule out revisiting talks with Sydney Airport.

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Ms Roberts, who was asset director at Macquarie Airports and held a Sydney Airport Corporation board seat, will be managing director Tiger Australia.

=Much easier negotiations!

J:cool:

[BPA]

Spot on Jabawocky!

[flyer_18-737]

:)haha

Im sure Tiger will be making its way into Sydney in no time:ooh:

[Howard Hughes]

A Sydney base perhaps? Hmmmm...;)

[Metro man]

Tiger have managed for seven months without the SYD - MEL - BNE golden triangle. Could Virgin have managed the same ?

Tiger have had only secondary and marginal routes so far, think how they could do on more lucrative ones.

[flyer_18-737]

Is this new base going ahead??

[otto the grot]

Tiger to the rescue

Margo Zlotkowski

Friday, June 13, 2008

© The Cairns Post



BUDGET carrier Tiger Airways is the first contender prepared to pounce on the Japan-Cairns route after Qantas abandons it in December.

The Singapore Airlines-backed carrier yesterday confirmed it would meet mid-next week with senior Federal Government representatives to discuss regulatory changes needed to allow a domestic airline to fly internationally out of Cairns to Japan as well as Malaysia.

"It would be doubtful we can do it as fast as December but obviously we'll be trying to come in there as soon as possible," Tiger Airways' media spokesman Matt Hobbs said.

"We do have some regulatory hurdles to cross."

A spokesman for Transport Minister Anthony Albanese last night confirmed there were significant obstacles to the Tiger Airway's deal because it was a 100 per cent foreign-owned company, even though it was based in Australia.

The obstacles included long-standing laws that state all airlines flying internationally from a base in Australia must be majority-Australian owned.

Japan also requires airlines flying there from an Australian base to be substantially owned and controlled by Australian
interests.

"It's not simply a matter of ministerial discretion," Mr Albanese's spokesman said.

"We would have to renegotiate the air services agreement with Japan and change the Air Navigation Act."

But Tiger Airways CEO Tony Davis said the Australian tourism industry was too important to the nation's economy to be subjected to the vested interest of Qantas.

"This is just too important to be limited to protecting Qantas/Jetstar from real competition in the international markets," Mr Davis said.

Federal Leichhardt MP Jim Turnour yesterday agreed changes were needed to make Cairns airport more competitive.

Mr Turnour said a number of those changes were already being examined as part of a national review on aviation policy.

He said he was excited by Tiger Airway's interest in the Cairns route and would seek urgent talks on the matter with Mr Albanese.

Tourism Tropical North Queensland CEO Rob Giason also welcomed the news and said Tiger Airways was more flexible in its cost structures than Qantas so would have a greater chance of making the route profitable.

"With 194,000 Japanese passengers (into Cairns in the past year) we are still the best performer for the Japanese market," Mr Giason said.

"There is still a lot of traffic to be had."

Tiger Airways' Mr Hobbs said the airline had shown it had been able to make other routes viable that Qantas could not, including direct flights to Melbourne from Mackay and Rockhampton.

"It's because our cost base is very, very low," he said.

"We spend money where we need to on training and maintenance and brand new planes, not on flashy office blocks.

"Our office is a demountable school shed in the car park at Melbourne airport."

Tiger Airways, which jumped into the Australian market in November, has been increasing its fights at a time when other airlines are cutting back.

Last month, it added its fifth A320 to its 13-destination national network.

It is also seeking to establish a second base in Australia and add two 144-seat A319s to its local fleet later this year.

[Metro man]

With a 3700nm range the A319 will be able to cover quite a few international destinations out of Australia.

[PW1830]

CNS - NRT 3638nm - finely judged.

[puff]

Perhaps with a tech. stop in Guam it might work, and Guam is a decent market from Japan, but still a damn long flight jammed into a sardine config A319/20.

CO still have a twice weekly I think 738 to Guam. Doubt the A319 could do NRT from Cairns with any form of payload could it?

[UNOME]

I would not rule out A330s joining the streak (or ambush if you prefer) of current Tigers.

The A340-500s have also been long mooted for the longer leaps and with the arrival of many A330s in Singa, they can be redeployed quickly.

Plently of drivers in Tiger Oz with "Big Cat" time so CASA will roll over and purrrr...:}...without any problems.

I am certain a CNS base A330/ A340 [working 3 days a week] would be attractive to most?:ok:

Plently of space to park 'em also.

[flyer_18-737]

Imagine how many seats they could squeeze into them!,...but I really dont think they can afford to go long haul at the moment. They have made no significant $$$$ since 2004, and have ENORMOUS debts, I cant see it happening.

This is one airline who has a really bad finacial situation:ugh:, more than 100million debt, mabye more

[Metro Boy]

How many Jap airlines fly into Cairns? If the Japs don´t take to Jetstar, has Tiger any hope?

[UNOME]

flyer

SIA have how much moo-lah??:} BTW was your edit for spelling/ grammar/ syntax??:\

Metro

Tiger is an "Asian" airline...when in Asia, do as...:)

Ah so.:p

Speaking of Singapore, bit better WX [and beers] up here tonight than Sydney!:ok:

[Capt Coco]

Wouldn't SIA(or Tamasek) or who ever it is who owns Tiger, need to sell 51% of Tiger Australia to an Aussie(individual or company) for it to get international rights out of Cairns?!?! Or have the rules changed in the last few years.

[Capt Coco]

Metro boy,
No Japanese airlines fly to Cairns, the loads and yields are just not there to justify it for them. JAL from memory were code-sharing on the 167(one of the two newly canned 767 CNS-NRT flights), not sure if they are going to code-share on the Jetstar flight to NRT later this year. ANA don't fly or code-share with anyone to Cairns.
It's a bit disapointing really that Qantas is canceling the 2 767's a day, it has been really nice staff traveling to Japan knowing everytime you are sure to get a whole row to yourself:ok:

[Van Gough]

"We spend money where we need to on training and maintenance and brand new planes, not on flashy office blocks.

"Our office is a demountable school shed in the car park at Melbourne airport."



Hilarious:ok:

[ruby tuesday]

Maybe the Tiger suspension on the Newcastle route is the 1st step to getting into SYD - now Shelley is onboard the negotiations maybe a little easier as was highlighted in a previous post.

[flyer_18-737]

I would think so ruby, as they are pretty eager to get into sydney it seems. Shelly begins ops in mid-July, so lets hope she consider's it.

Didn't TT get Sydney slots in the beggining but gave them back for some reason, then went to NTL??

[ruby tuesday]

Yes apparently they held the slots but obviously couldn't get the deal to make it viable. Considering the fluidness of the market out there SYD may decide they can make it worth it, having had their bluff called once.

[flyer_18-737]

Tiger have released scheds for MEL-ROK, 3 weekly from 25th October, from the current 4weekly services.

So I guess ROK nor Darwin are axed, its just all about finalising new times, schedules, and A319's approvals etc...I would say Darwin will be on the bbooking engine in the next few days then..

[Tangan]

Tiger have managed for seven months without the SYD - MEL - BNE golden triangle. Could Virgin have managed the same ?

Metro Man,
The fact is that Virgin did not operate the most lucrative sector of the Golden Triangle, ie between Melbourne and Sydney, until July 2001.....thats 11 months AFTER the VB operation commenced.

[spabath]

Yes Tangan your so correct.

Thats why Virginblue had applied for Voluntary administration, just before Ansett fell over.

[galdian]

And again make the point that, allegedly at the time either Virgin or Ansett were within 2 weeks of closing their doors, ANZ with their stunning management decisions saw off AN, allowing VB expansion in a market desperate for seats and where Dixon was happy to allow growth because an absolute domination of the market, in a "free market" economy, was never sustainable politically, industrially or in 'public perception.'

So at the moment QF are, yet again, remodelling schedules and/or dumping destinations (see you later Japan!), Virgin are introducing lower capacity at the bottom end (geez that worked reeeel good at AN with the CRJ's, thanks trev :ok:...and others:suspect:) whilst looking at the top end... " LCC short operations are VERY VERY different animals from LCC long haul operations..." maybe should be a topic of discussion/argument/fisticuffs at VB (or whomever is the corperate listed bastard son to cover this operation)

I seem to have digressed - the LCC is no longer Virgin, they're in the woods spending a sh*tload of money to please everyone (and probably please no-one), both Pornstar and Tiger have big backers and big bucks to keep ops afloat.

Does Virgin??

Tiger are tough (pay your uniforms, $70.00 per month every month parking, no overnights/allowances so petrol?? etc) but they appear to be sticking to the formula of LCC, a market Virgin seems to have left.

Tiger changing their schedules/destinations?? Would be nice if, in fairness, it was also mentioned how the "Aussie Icon" airline was screwing their customers far greater with their changes to international and domestic flights - maybe too much to ask for.:(

And Virgin?? - tough, tough times! Well done BG and (maybe) others.

[Tangan]

spa bath,

Thats why Virginblue had applied for Voluntary administration, just before Ansett fell over.

I think you may have that wrong. VB was never in voluntary administration. Richard Branson "accepted" a cheque from Ansett, who wanted to buy out the opposition, only to tear it up in front of the TV cameras a short time later. I don't dispute that Ansett demise was a godsend for VB. However my original post on this thread was intended only to set Metro man straight.

[Metro man]

BNE - SYD is one of the busiest major trunk routes in the country. Tiger started on secondary routes and may expand onto the golden triangle which should give a nice revenue boost.

Some of Tigers initial routes are being dropped or frequencies reduced. Quite normal for a LCC which simply uses its aircraft where they can make the most money. Why continue flying an underperforming route when you can easily swap to a better prospect ? No pride involved, just business. Let someone else lose money on it instead. Prehaps a full service can't turn a profit between A and B but a LCC with its lower overheads can.

If you shop in Coles expect a wide range of major brands and high prices.

If you shop in ALDI expect a smaller range of lesser brands and lower prices.

If your sensible check the specials in Coles and shop in both.

[flyer_18-737]

Tiger will have hundreds of options for revenue boost if they can get into Sydney and Brissy, lets just wait to see what old Shelly is going to do to this company. TT could do alot of damage to DJ/JQ if they opened up a BNE hub

[flyer_18-737]

Darwin cut to 4weekly from September