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Former IJM Pilot 2
6th Jun 2008, 12:19
If you like to think JAR-OPS-1 is a level playing field around member states I would beg to differ:
International Jet Management, based in Vienna (or is it St. Vincent?), somehow have managed to secure 17 hour duty days for their crews through Austria Control which is further extendable by 10%. This takes no regard for the time duty begins, sectors flown, or time zone changes!
As if this were not enough those hours are regularly exceeded and what do Austria Control do? Apparently nothing! :confused:

But at least the crew certification is legal:
Legal as long as operating with no SEP training, line trained by any line pilot, no ongoing line checking and recurrent training provided ONLY when the management want to pay for it is considered legal by Austria. Apparently so again! :confused:

Of course Europeans employees working for a European AOC holder are all protected by European employment law except you are employed by INAS based in the Grenadine Islands with a Grenadine Island contract.
Conveniently they can "forget" to pay your salary, your expenses, make you redundant without redundancy pay, make you provide your own employers liability insurance and generally abuse the hell out of you and what are you going to do? Sue their PO Box? :D

How was this appalling operation was ever accepted as an AOC holder. I always thought an AOC was a priviledge? :=

Nice to have friends in high places I suppose. :ok:

Taxi2parking
6th Jun 2008, 12:31
With regard to FTLs JAR-OPS was not relevant as national authorities requlated things using national FTLs - so the austrians could make what ever rules they liked. However, EU-OPS is now coming in as law and that says....


1.3 The maximum basic daily FDP is 13 hours.
1.4 These 13 hours will be reduced by 30 minutes for each sector from the third sector
onwards with a maximum total reduction of two hours.
1.5 When the FDP starts in the WOCL, the maximum stated in point 1.3 and point 1.4
will be reduced by 100% of its encroachment up to a maximum of two hours. When
the FDP ends in or fully encompasses the WOCL, the maximum FDP stated in point
1.3 and point 1.4 will be reduced by 50% of its encroachment.

WOCL must be that bit of the 24 hours that it's cold and dark and you just want to go to bed....:sad:

cldrvr
6th Jun 2008, 12:33
If you want to have a go at your Part D and your FTL, have a go at your local CAA, don't have a go at your old company you obviously have a gripe with for doing something that is apparantly within the law or else it would not have been approved.

So get off your high horse and write a letter to your FOI telling him why he misadvertently approved a part D and an FTL scheme

Taxi2parking
6th Jun 2008, 14:20
mmmm cldrvr you think that everywhere is like the island? - your approach may work in the UK but you seem to miss what Former IJM Pilot 2 is saying in his last sentence. Maybe that's why he feels the need to post here.

charterguy
8th Jun 2008, 01:53
WOCL must be that bit of the 24 hours that it's cold and dark and you just want to go to bed....

Window of Circadian Low (WOCL)

The Window of Circardian Low (WOCL) is the period between 02:00 hours and 05:59 hours. Within a band of three time zones the WOCL refers to home base time. Beyond these three time zones the WOCL refers to home base time for the first 48 hours after departure from home base time zone, and to local time thereafter;

No RYR for me
8th Jun 2008, 11:56
Conveniently they can "forget" to pay your salary, your expenses

Try conveniently forgetting to show up for a flight in a remote part of the world and it tends to get sorted quickly :ooh:

ps make sure you have a backup plan outside of the company when trying the above ;)