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Vulcan 903
2nd Jun 2008, 10:50
Official Press release by DHA:

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DH110 Sea Vixen G-CVIX (XP924) - the World's last remaining airworthy de Havilland Sea Vixen.

De Havilland Aviation is pleased to announce that one of the major issues affecting the commercial viability of the Sea Vixen G-CVIX (XP924) has now been sorted.

Thanks to a joint venture with one of our fleet operator friends in the aviation World, the aircraft is now insured on far better terms than the previous insurance quote of over £80,000 per year. That original cost had, understandably, made flying operations completely untenable for 2007 and, as a result, the aircraft was temporarily grounded.

Now, with this major element of the total operating costs sorted via a different mechanism, we can now concentrate on getting Foxy into the airshow circuit at more commercially acceptable rates for those air show organisers wishing to offer the aircraft as part of their display programmes.

In addition, our renowned Chief Pilot, Brian Grant, has signified his intention to start his well-earned retirement, which would leave us without a qualified display pilot. However, we have secured the services of a very competent and respected pilot in the form of Lt Cdr Matt Whitfield RN, OC of Fixed Wing Standards for the Royal Navy based at RNAS Yeovilton.

As such, with the superb support of the Royal Navy, Foxy will be based temporarily at Yeovilton whilst Matt completes his type training and DA under Brian's expert tutelage. Foxy will be based there to commence this stage of the programme once we have completed her annual service and scheduled flight test.

We have had many enquiries and requests for her to attend various air shows and events around the country. We are aware, of course, that (after the Vulcan) she remains the largest vintage ex-military jet on the UK circuit, and certainly provides the most enthralling display out of all the larger jets, due to her manoeuvrability.

We are working with those organisers as fast as we can so that these fit in with the training schedule. But, some events have already been pencilled in and are as good as confirmed. These include the Yeovilton Air Day on 5th July - in thanks to the Royal Navy for their assistance with Foxy - and the Bournemouth Air Festival where she will appear on the Friday 29th, Saturday 30th and Sunday 31st August. Sunday (31Aug) is likely to be Brian's last ever public display, and we are in the process of arranging a very special join up to wish him well on his retirement; more news on that later, when we have formal confirmation.

Despite this good news on the insurance front, the costs of keeping Foxy in the sky remain high, but we at DHA are determined to help preserve her for the sake of the country's aviation heritage and for her many fans around the globe. As such, we have started a membership fund to attract donations, sponsorship and the profits from merchandise sales. We have received some donations to this fund already, so thank you to those who have contributed so far. This account is ring-fenced exclusively in a separate account for the sole operation of Foxy; no deductions are made for DHA general overheads or other aircraft operating costs.

For those interested in joining as members of the official Friends of Sea Vixen XP924 Group (maybe it'll become known as the Friends of Foxy Club?!), basic annual Silver membership of £25 entitles you to a membership pack, invitations to Foxy's special events and discounts on official XP924 merchandise.

Gold membership includes all those benefits plus invitations to our corporate events, including photo opportunities, plus a limited edition lithograph of the aircraft signed by all the team and associated Navy signatories. Gold membership, at £100 per annum, will only be available to the first 250 applications. Those fans of Foxy who have already donated to the appeal fund in excess of £99 will automatically be granted Gold membership retrospectively. Experienced photographers who are Gold members may also be invited to shoot the official shots of Foxy for each publication request, and these may include air-to-air sorties.

These will also be a Diamond level of membership, and we are happy to discuss those benefits with you, upon application.

There will also be a Junior level of membership (for those under 16) at £15 pa, plus Family Membership options at a discounted rate.

Donations and membership applications can be sent to:
The Friends of Sea Vixen XP924
De Havilland Aviation Ltd
Hangar 600
Bournemouth International Airport
Christchurch
Dorset BH23 6DQ

Or emailed to [email protected]

Membership can also be applied for via telephone on +44 1202 593600, where payment can be made via debit or debit card (VISA/MC/AMEX only).

PayPal membership can also be made via [email protected]

Please note that, in future, all requests for photo participation must be made to the Managing Director at the address above. We will anticipate a small contribution from any proceeds to be made to the Appeal Fund in exchange for these exclusive photo opportunities to help keep this magnificent aircraft flying. With one notable exception, the aviation photographic community has gladly accepted this policy, so we trust that this will continue to be an acceptable arrangement. We have been more than pleased with the exceptional assistance of aviation photographers such as Tim Skeet, Morley Lester and Richard Paver in the past, and hope to encourage more in this field to be involved in Foxy's publicity portfolio, along with our other aircraft photo shoots.

A new range of XP924 merchandise will be launched very shortly, and certainly in time for the major air shows. The profits from all merchandise sales will be put directly into Foxy's flying fund, so we would encourage all fans to wear your Sea Vixen gear with pride.

We hope that this news will be welcomed by the aviation community, and thank you to all those who have helped, encouraged and donated to make this happen. We look forward to seeing you on the airshow circuit and at other events in the near future.

From all the team at De Havilland Aviation.

hurn
2nd Jun 2008, 11:08
I just came here to see if the news had been posted. :)

Looking forward to seeing the Sea Vixen back in the air, and in military markings too. :D

Gainesy
2nd Jun 2008, 11:42
Foxy???
:yuk:

dunc0936
2nd Jun 2008, 14:04
Foxy and the Vulcan together now that would be a site, just a shame we will never see the Victor at Elvington flying again, cos that would be one hell of a site the Vulcan behind the Victor with Foxy flying next to the big V

Duncan

Vulcan 903
2nd Jun 2008, 14:19
Maybe we should start a fanasty formation thread!
Mine would be 2 x TSR2's escorting Vulcan with 6 Phantoms behind escorting 3 victors, 6 Concordes. with 12 Lightning... I'll go and lie down now!

blue monday
2nd Jun 2008, 14:22
What went wrong with the Red Bull sponsorship??

dunc0936
2nd Jun 2008, 14:32
Mine would have to include some Shackletons, lightings, Victor's and Vulcans, with a Squadron of F4's, 6 Hunters, hhhmmmmmm where to stop lol

Dunc

scorpion63
2nd Jun 2008, 15:38
"We are aware, of course, that (after the Vulcan) she remains the largest vintage ex-military jet on the UK circuit, and certainly provides the most enthralling display out of all the larger jets, due to her manoeuvrability."


I think you will find the Canberra fits neatly between the two in terms of weight and dimensions.

Vulcan 903
2nd Jun 2008, 15:51
Yep - the Canberra should be. Have'nt seen WK163 for a number of years now. It look so good in silver. What happend to the PR9's at Kemble?

dunc0936
2nd Jun 2008, 16:15
do the caa allow vintage Canberra's to fly in this country in civvy hands?

why is the lighting not allowed to fly in this country and at the moment only in South Africa?

Duncan

Vulcan 903
2nd Jun 2008, 17:34
Yes - we have one Canberra WK163 that can fly.

Lightning are a different kettle of fish - rockets with a seat strapped on to it - loose engineering term. Never never in UK air space. The ins and out of why can be found on other forums.

LookingNorth
2nd Jun 2008, 17:40
I think you will find the Canberra fits neatly between the two in terms of weight and dimensions.

That it might do but 'on the circuit' it ain't.

XR537
3rd Jun 2008, 07:22
Yep, happy to accept that the Canberra's bigger... but, I specifically said "on the circuit"... if a Canny starts flying again, I'll gladly revise the PR.

aviate1138
3rd Jun 2008, 10:55
V 903
"Lightning are a different kettle of fish - rockets with a seat strapped on to it - loose engineering term. Never never in UK air space."

Aviate asks [a little tongue in cheek...]
The South Africans fly 4 [Thunder Bay] and many years ago [1962?] I saw S/L John Howe keep a 74 Sqdn Lightning inside the Farnborough boundary [well nearly!]. I think he got the Display of the Day accolade and well deserved too! So why not in the UK? Looking for other threads as I type.

dunc0936
4th Jun 2008, 18:15
correct me if Im wrong, but is it not down to a points system, how many accidents a type has, i.e. crashes, wheels up landing, etc, and if they go ver a certain level then the caa does not allow them to fly in civvy hands in the UK?

not having been around (or only very small when it was still in service) I don't know what the accident rate was like?

They also if Im right won't let the Shackleton fly either, same as the Victor at Elvington,

wish they would, those three alone togehter would be a great site, don't pay premier footballers for a month, that would pay to keep the Vulcan in the air easily for a year, and a far better way to spend that sort of money as far im concern

Duncan

blue monday
4th Jun 2008, 18:34
What went wrong with the Red Bull sponsorship??

I refer again to my previous question, why did bed bull pull their sponsorship of the airframe?? They are a very aviation friendly company does anyone know the answer?

Jhieminga
5th Jun 2008, 07:33
As for the Lightning issue, it has been covered on other forums and I guess on this one too but the summary is that it is a 'complex' aircraft with some particular performance specs that cause the CAA to see it as 'not fit for civil operation'.

The 'complex' is a term stating that the systems, avionics and engines require a stringent maintenance and inspection program that a civil (private) operator will be unable to provide. Now that the Vulcan is flying this 'complex' barrier has been broken, but still I don't think that there'll be a Lightning in British skies anytime soon.

The Shackleton is a different story, that type has a life-limited main spar and as soon as you put in a new one, you can fly the Shack in the UK. The Shack that flew until recently in the USA used a different approach where the (officially expired) main spar was continually monitored by inspections. This was acceptable for the FAA but not by the CAA. Also it doesn't solve the issue.

I don't know what the issue with the Victor is, but I'm guessing a combination of a complex aircraft with a money problem (it would need a similar program like the Vulcan to get it flying again).

blue monday
5th Jun 2008, 09:19
Quote:
What went wrong with the Red Bull sponsorship??
I refer again to my previous question, why did bed bull pull their sponsorship of the airframe?? They are a very aviation friendly company does anyone know the answer?

Why the silence?

Groundloop
6th Jun 2008, 08:15
What went wrong with the Red Bull sponsorship??


Probably decided they could get better advertising coverage spending the money somewhere else!:ok:

Dop
6th Jun 2008, 09:13
What went wrong with the Red Bull sponsorship??

Maybe they got fed up of people always complaining about the colour scheme?http://farm1.static.flickr.com/72/159883243_b63a744856.jpg

DucatiST4
6th Jun 2008, 19:20
Wasn't the main problem with the Victor that they are all at the end of their fatigue life?

Re the Lightning, i think the vast majority of usable spares have now gone to South Africa.

WG774
6th Jun 2008, 21:27
Cdr Whitfield will have his work cut out methinks – Brian Grant really knew how to shake the old girl down!

Others here are better qualified to comment than myself, but I believe the Victor definitely belongs in the “complex” camp. Even if an airframe remains with sufficient hours left, the funding and engineering required would be phenomenal to say the least. Having said that, how awe-inspiring would it be to see a Victor in the air? I can dream I suppose…

I look forward to seeing the SV in her new livery :ok:

VictorGolf
7th Jun 2008, 11:20
With regard to the Red Bull sponsorship, other forums have suggested that it was for a fixed term of 4 (?) years and simply ran it's course. Part of the deal was to return it to it's original colours.

JEM60
7th Jun 2008, 16:51
The other forums are correct. 4 year deal, and a repaint on completion.

asiaseen
4th Aug 2008, 10:30
Just checked my old log book and the only time I flew in XP924 was 28 Feb 1967 on a night AI sortie - it's thought provoking just how long ago that was.

Not 924 but a sister cab on 899 Sqn at the moment of launch.
http://pixcastle.com/pic/3001IQZqg/303461.jpg