How not to land.

[Peter Fanelli]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1fFrEuuMF8&feature=related

[PyroTek]

..Wow...:sad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzfaFC9OvRM
This is going to be a fun thread!

[Rob D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EM0hDchVlY

[Capn Bloggs]

Dunno about that Gripen one being "fun". Did the driver get out alive?

[PyroTek]

looks like he mighta ejected on the 2nd roll, i saw something fly out of there. looked kinda like a seat.
It was in the air, then changed vectors and shot off sideways, hopefully was the pilot

[ules]

i dont understand how anyone can land a plane like that so bad. the pilot must of been drunk or having heart problems or something...
(1st vid)

2nd vid could that be from wake turb?
:suspect:

[zkdli]

From what I remember the Gripen was a test flight and the computer fly by wire program got a glitch....

[slimynyk]

one light plane lands on another one... :ugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEUx5VYr7ho

I guess the checks on short finals included the words: Confucius say "if plane departing on runwayyyyy, youuuuu land on himmm, dooooon't let him go"

[Sunfish]

Ules:

i dont understand how anyone can land a plane like that so bad. the pilot must of been drunk or having heart problems or something...
(1st vid)



Hmmmmm, are you a student Pilot by any chance?

Ask your instructor to tell you about our little friend "Pilot Induced Oscillation", especially before you fly any Cessna.

Land just a little fast, in terms of absolute velocity over ground, in some aircraft and you will bounce, exactly as the Piper did. Then try and ease the control column forward during the bounce - you will be half a second behind the aircraft. Then realise that you are going to hit hard - so pull back on the column just before you hit - again half a second behind the aircraft and you will bounce again. Keep repeating this until the firewall or the nosewheel gives up.

The alternative is to either go around or maintain the aircraft in it's flared attitude during the bounce, perhaps adding a little power if required to cushion the next descent.

It cost me $1500 to learn this, and I am giving it to you for free.:}

[Crosshair]

one light plane land on another one.

You know how hard they can be to control during mating season.

[Peter Fanelli]

one light plane land on another one... Only in the US of A


What a stupid remark, I thought probationary ppruners were subject to vetting by the moderators.

Speaking of moderators, first person to post a link to that stupid Heineken Beer commercial gets suggested to the moderators for a lifetime ban.

[CoodaShooda]

Only in America?

http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/ozcrashes/nsw144.htm

or, more recently

http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2002/AAIR/aair200200548.aspx

[Sunfish]

Slimy, references to an aircraft landing on another are in bad taste on an Australian thread because a young pilot was killed that way not that long ago.

[Capt Wally]

if the pilot was drunk in that first vid then their guuna nget caught if here in the land of the free..OZ:bored:
I think the main prob in that first vid was that the PIC was a 747 skipper getting back into flying for fun so he not want to the speedo less than say around 130 kts:E

hey 'Rob D' not seen that vid b4, where did ya find that rare footage from?:E

CW:)

[BrazDriver]

Anyone got a video of the Darwin Hammer?? Qlink 717? :}

[Capt Wally]

'braz' you mean 'slamma' mate 'slamma':E


CW

[kingRB]

I think this one takes the cake for the whole "only in America" phrase.

Quite possibly the most bizarre aviation accident / landing you will ever see


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYhrpA0tmBQ

Make sure you watch it all the way till the end :eek:

[Jabawocky]

Its a Cessna PWC!:}

Bloody expensive Jet Ski:eek:

J

[boardpig]

Sunfish,

Could'nt agree more. Can happen to anyone!

BP:ok:

[vmx]

Maybe the Piper pilot was having a checkride to be an IL76 test pilot...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cclH8ZSDVOM

[Capn Bloggs]

The Gripen pilot survived:

The pilot, Lars Rådeström, remained in the tumbling aircraft, and escaped miraculously with just a fractured elbow and a few other minor injuries.

Could have a day off please? I've got a sore arm...

[Cap'n Arrr]

ules.... its a very common mistake among students. Its why "GO AROUND!" is drilled in so early.

I tell you, nothing scarier than having just jumped out to send a student off for a few circuits and seeing them start to bounce:eek:

[Superbad]

You would think that bloody loud noise would give you a hint!! Either that or noise cancelling headsets are getting good these days...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K4QHpVXtxI


Ouch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0UUb49TGQM

[fedup1]

Found this rare footage of a 717 into darwin or alice, cant tell which one from this clip though?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYAVLfuUjPA&feature=related

[pw1340]

:ouch:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lhUO4pdGCf8

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=PiOlU1LhopE

[Cap'n Arrr]

Aaarargh!

It's painful reading some of the arrogant comments on youtube.:ugh:

[Chimbu chuckles]

That one of the accidental gear up in the C182 is a classic reason for sterile cockpit below whatever altitude is deemed appropriate. 10k in jets...perhaps within the traffic pattern in pistons would be good.:rolleyes:

The two dills in the front seat never shut up chatting about inane **** until the belly started scraping.

The individuals in the Piper, Let 410 etc were merely passengers sat at the controls...not pilots.

[MCKES]

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=e1aKxAN7bAs&feature=related

[Jet_A_Knight]

Pour toi, Fanelli :8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSqN7wDeQdM

[ABX]

Not this way either (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ihvJuMlRFVs&feature=related) - under normal circumstances that is!

[Capt Wally]

Out of the dumb things we have sene here the C182 gear up ldg is a classic. The gear warning horn doesn't go off 'till the throttle is back at a certain position close to closed so these two 'pilots' had it back futher than normal 'cause they couldn't figure out why they where still going so fast, CLEAN!:bored: And to think someone was actually filming outside the side window possibly wondering & viewing the non existant wheels just prior to touchdown, I bet this person (Vid man/gal) was asked why didn't you say sumfin'? They would then say why didn't you put the gear down? After the ldg would have been the funniest, that part we missed


CW

[Jabawocky]

How about you video some of yours Wal?

J:E

[Jabawocky]

Mate what are you on...............?

I can see a Mod jumping into a phone box shortly and sending you on a Long Haul Freighter to a one way destination!

J:=

PS.....Deleted post was above.....Good work Mods :D

[ABX]

Lift off in T-minus 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3...

[Much Ado]

Hmmm...someone else got to him first...but the result was identical:E

Gotta feel for this chap, but it is funny non the less, mostly because he is French. It seems this jet has no gear warning, all that fast jet gadgetry but no gear warning, quite bizarre really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlaJJXkS3uo

[ules]

ules.... its a very common mistake among students. Its why "GO AROUND!" is drilled in so early.

I tell you, nothing scarier than having just jumped out to send a student off for a few circuits and seeing them start to bounce

yeah i couldnt agree with you more, im a student at the moment but goshhh that landing was just terrible he is lucky he didnt kill himself.
maybe a career change would be an option.(refering to the video)

[ZEEBEE]

Gotta feel for this chap, but it is funny non the less, mostly because he is French. It seems this jet has no gear warning, all that fast jet gadgetry but no gear warning, quite bizarre really.


That's why in Oz at least, the tower is required to confirm "gear Down and Locked" with the landing clearance.

Cheap insurance really!

Z

[Peter Fanelli]

Gotta feel for this chap, but it is funny non the less, mostly because he is French. It seems this jet has no gear warning, all that fast jet gadgetry but no gear warning, quite bizarre really.


Never mind, he'll probably go on to be a CASA FOI or whatever they're called now.

ref A3-16 at Melbourne

[hogespa28]

That's why in Oz at least, the tower is required to confirm "gear Down and Locked" with the landing clearance.

Really? YMEN Tower must have not been doing there job properly today when I came in! Will have a strong word to them tomorrow about their lack of discipline and procedures... :rolleyes:

[ZEEBEE]

Really? YMEN Tower must have not been doing there job properly today when I came in! Will have a strong word to them tomorrow about their lack of discipline and procedures...

I guess I shoulda said Military towers. (need a checklist):(

[Capt Wally]

what are you on about there jaba?, you bin smokin' sumfin good? if so I want a pound of it:E Don't mention the Mods to me, there playing Nazi with me elsewhere.:bored:


CW:{

[Peter Fanelli]

I guess I shoulda said Military towers. (need a checklist)
Nope, you were right, civilian towers do it too(or at least used to), but only for military aircraft.

I'm told it's also done here in the USA, but I haven't personally heard it done.

[rmcdonal]

Can Confirm Civi Towers still call "check gear" to the Military aircraft capable of embarrassing themselves this way (Including choppers). Even heard it called to a BBJ and a "Military Challenger". Makes me laugh each and every time. :ok::}

[elche]

I've had BK tower tell me to check gear after a gear problem on my first command hr in a twin :}

Put the leaver down expecting 3 green on downwind as per usual but got nothing. There was no one else in the circuit so i stretched the circuit a little for a bit more room and tried the leaver again on base and final, but no luck :ugh:. Just as i was about to call a go-around and tell them what was going on, the twr got back to me with the "check gear" or words to that effect.

Got her down with 3 green in the end though :eek:

[Ultralights]

technam landing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5pJGTkrolk)

[elche]

Nice landing.

I didn't know there were more of these Technams around besides the ones from Basair.

Has anybody ever watched the Basair boys and gals do their last 100 feet or so?? They fly up to the threshold nice and slow, then dive :eek: I was told by an ex-basair Instructor they did this for fun...

[Jabawocky]

Also heard of someone down there with undercarriage expenes that others don't have..............maybe you found them!:hmm:

J

[Warbo]

More...... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=202S0-BVaLc&feature=related)

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Now that IS funny!

Dr :8

[gassed budgie]

Ask your instructor to tell you about our little friend "Pilot Induced Oscillation", especially before you fly any Cessna


There was no pilot induced oscillation. The guy in the Cherokee just sat there fat, dumb and happy and let it happen. A pretty good effort though! Usually the nose wheel comes off after about the forth or fifth bounce. He (she ?) had seven bounces before the nose wheel departed the airframe. In other words the pilot had six, yep that's right, six oppotunities to get it sorted. It would appear that at no point was any attempt made to rectify the situation. At no point was there any attempt, or even a hint of it ,to hold any sort of attitude. It would've been as simple as that. He/she was evidentally just along for the ride. Unfortunately we see this sort of thing happening far to often. Makes you wonder what they've been taught.

[Sunfish]

Sorry Mr. Budgie, he did try and fix it, that's the problem, he tried to fix it the wrong way by flailing around with the controls instead of holding a constant attitude.

When you get "behind" the aircraft (ie, responding in phase with the aircraft) then each successive bounce is worse than the one before it until either the wheel comes off or you finally run out of energy.

If you watch the video closely, you can see how the pilot was caught by surprise, pushed the column forward and wheel barrow'ed it, then each bounce gets progressively worse until the nose collapsed on his final mighty leap.

I'd be happy to demonstrate if anyone has a free C172 they don't really need to use again.:p

[elche]

Just before the front gave way, it sounds like he adds full throttle and back to idle straight away. Another indication he had no idea how to get out of it... He needed to commit to a decision, but didn't :O

[WannaBeBiggles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGndTM-w_68

Dr. - you haven't taken the FDK over to the states recently? :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr1fdyD0YWA

[PyroTek]

Biggles... SHHHH

[Capt Wally]

sheeez Dr the pilot even looks like you:E That's no way to treat a lady Bo is it Dr? All knocked up like that, would get 20 yrs down under for doing such a thing:ok:


CW

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Dr - you haven't taken the FDK over to the states recently?

Biggles, Pyro, Wally - Ha ha! Ya really funny!

Kick a bloke in the kahulligoolies when he's down and hurtin why don't ya.

You'll all keep!

Stuff is arriving back in TL from all round the world as I type this.

TSO146 G430 on its way back from the US - so I can go anywhere I friggin like
Landing gear motor overhauled
Shimmy damper replaced
Nose gear retract rod ends replaced
Engine baffle seals replaced
Flap flexi shafts replaced
Flap gearbox and motor overhauled
Flap actuator overhauled
Fuel boost pump overhauled
Tail feathers had their chemo and reconstructive surgery
Fancy new door struts
Sexy new seat covers!AND ....... wait for it ............. PCAS !!!!!!!!!!!

The FTDK will once again terrorise the airways with inflight Ppruining and triple-GPS trans-continental cross-countries in the flight levels.

Dr :8

PS: So Pyro (ya smarty!) - I guess you'll be walking to the next big Ppruiners fly-in, huh?

PPS: sheeez Dr the pilot even looks like you
Hey! What the f*ck! That's my long lost twin brudda? We got separated at the orphanage!

[PyroTek]

Biggles, Pyro, Wally - Ha ha! Ya really funny!I thought so too!:p

[Old Fella]

To McDonal. I just wonder if you will laugh if ever you "embarrass" yourself by landing with the gear up and will you still think it is not a worthwhile call to get from the tower, if one is there? It is not only military pilots who are guilty of occasionally making the mistake of forgetting to lower the gear.

[Jabawocky]

Stuff is arriving back in TL from all round the world as I type this.

TSO146 G430 on its way back from the US - so I can go anywhere I friggin like
Landing gear motor overhauled
Shimmy damper replaced
Nose gear retract rod ends replaced
Engine baffle seals replaced
Flap flexi shafts replaced
Flap gearbox and motor overhauled
Flap actuator overhauled
Fuel boost pump overhauled
Tail feathers had their chemo and reconstructive surgery
Fancy new door struts
Sexy new seat covers!AND ....... wait for it .............



Geeez Ya hard on equipment Doc..........or are ya gunna blame me!:E

J:ok:

[PyroTek]

Forkie, I swear i didn't mean ANYTHING by what i said.
I can't walk that far you know that?! :p:cool:

Pyro

[Ultralights]

so still no charts then?:}

[Capn Bloggs]

FTDK,
terrorise the airways with inflight Ppruining and triple-GPS trans-continental cross-countries in the flight levels.
You sound worse than Dick Smith. Just keep your flippin' eyeballs outside, not inside playing with your toys! :=:ok::p

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Do I detect a bit of "GPS envy" there Bloggsy?

You just keep your TCAS on and "Helga the talking cigarette lighter" will alert me to your presence.

Dr :8

[PyroTek]

speaking of GPS's, i pulled out my newish GPS phone on my flight to sydney on friday night (actually WITH an airline), my phone in flight mode of course.
Since its garmin software, it shows max speed the gps has tracked, so now i tell my mates i've driven my car at 784km/h - and prove it :p:ugh:

[SystemsAreGo]

This comment below on the original video has me in hysterics! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1fFrEuuMF8&feature=related)

460x (3 days ago) 0 Reply | Spam
This is one technique I use, I apply full forward pressure on the stick before you touch down the first time this will help stop you from bounceing up like this. Once it starts to bounce you just have to ride it out, pulling back would not work. Carb heat could be turned on to reduce the engine power a bit to help stop the bounceing but that is about it.

:}

[Atlas Shrugged]

Carb heat could be turned on to reduce the engine power a bit to help stop the bounceing but that is about it.


WTF! .

[ZEEBEE]

This is one technique I use, I apply full forward pressure on the stick before you touch down the first time this will help stop you from bounceing up like this. Once it starts to bounce you just have to ride it out, pulling back would not work. Carb heat could be turned on to reduce the engine power a bit to help stop the bounceing but that is about it.

Priceless:D Must try it on the Auster:ok:

[NZFlyingKiwi]

I noticed that one too, thought at first it was veiled sarcasm, but knowing the quality of most of the comments on Youtube I suspect sheer stupidity is probably the more likely answer.

[ZEEBEE]

Now I know what Carby heat is for:ok:

Always wondered about that!

[ZEEBEE]

This is one technique I use, I apply full forward pressure on the stick before you touch down the first time this will help stop you from bounceing up like this. Once it starts to bounce you just have to ride it out, pulling back would not work. Carb heat could be turned on to reduce the engine power a bit to help stop the bounceing but that is about it.


Spoken like a true flight simmer :uhoh:

[PyroTek]

do they even have carby heat on the flight simulators?
If so, I never used it.. well I never really flew the piston engine aircraft on FS, I flew the heavy metal...

[ules]

heres a good one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhUO4pdGCf8&feature=related


:ugh:

[Capn Bloggs]

I apply full forward pressure on the stick before you touch down
This is the technque we use in the 717. It works well, most of the time...:{

[PyroTek]

uh, Bloggs, where did that go wrong for you?
DETAILS!

[skylarker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHmrcCfdZFM&feature=related

[Capn Bloggs]

Pyrotek,

uh, Bloggs, where did that go wrong for you?
DETAILS!

Unfortunately for me someone had a video going...

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4121927&postcount=24

:}

[Özcan]

He pulled the wrong handle so he didn't eject but somehow survived it all. It was due to the flight control system that was very sensitive, he induced an oscillation and did not go around

[Sunfish]

And this is what happens when a commercial pilot induces an oscillation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwUIOpOuBuk

[ABX]

And this is what happens when a commercial pilot induces an oscillation.

Except that it is a fake.:ok:

[Capn Bloggs]

Yeh c'mon Sunfish, it's a model, you stirrer! :=:p

[MCKES]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcURmi2wS7o&feature=related

[Roger Standby]

was there a prop strike there?

[Capn Bloggs]

was there a prop strike there?

Don't know about there, but there was here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VnSfPh3yt8&feature=related

and here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjAasNg0v8Y

:eek:

[Chimbu chuckles]

A skillful pilot shows the other end of the spectrum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y214xo7WasQ&feature=related

[kingRB]

A skillful pilot shows the other end of the spectrum

:eek:

jeeezus, that gives new definition to a narrow strip!

[Peter Fanelli]

How much more do you need?

[Ultralights]

jabiru main gear view (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpv-Aa4Jsv8)

hows my landing? and where is it at?:}