Royal Brunei - Night of the long knifes

[THINALBERT]

Rumour that several senior directors have been sacked by new chairman and that many more jobs are to go in an effort to make the airline lean and mean. New DFO as well. Comments from anyone in the know?

[Big Kahuna]

I have heard the same story. New boss is going through the place with a fine toothed comb.. .. .The DFO is retiring, that is why he is leaving. The Chief pilot to take over his job.

[Bus429]

"Long knives...". .Those in the know say more to come (or go!) on Monday...

[Sharky Boy]

Yup,this coming Monday,more announcement for cuts and cuts and more cuts.

[THINALBERT]

Update:. .. .Latest rumour is that all expat pilots are to lose their supplemental allowance, distinct possibility of outbasings which will mean no housing allowance, no expat allowance, no schooling allowance and you pay tax on whats left.. .. .Only rumour, but if true its time for you guys to jump ship I think.

[B772]

THINALBERT, My understanding is that most of the expat pilots at BI have been asking for out basing for years, especially the Australians.

[Bus429]

More than the jobs and conditions of ex-pat pilots at stake here. Expat engineers and other staff also at risk. What about the locals (their country, their airline)? We expats could probably find jobs, even in the current environment. Moving is hassle but possible.... .Local staff have fewer options and a lot has been invested in their training. Spare a thought for them.. .From my point of you, any cut in allowances or conditions (and don't forget, it is all rumour!) would make my position both untenable and unviable. . .Wait 'till Monday. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />. . . . <small>[ 17 March 2002, 01:11: Message edited by: Bus429 ]</small>

[Borneo Wild Man]

Outbasings,outbasings.........now thats a good idea!

[THINALBERT]

B772, Not sure about that, but in the present climate I suggest that its a bit like turkeys voting for christmas.. .. .Its all to do with dollars at the end of the day.. .Lets just wait and see. Good luck to all of you at RBA.

[Bus429]

Blacksheep - I went to the session this morning and I have to say confidence is not high. Time to update the CV...

[Bus429]

Blacksheep - latest missive from Dreamhouse indicates that certain contractual conditions have been breached.

[Borneo Wild Man]

......and why does the Executive director need a copy of the boyz hours???Didnt know he knew the front from the back!

[THINALBERT]

Any truth to the rumour that 3 F/Os and a junior captain with a senior dad have just been binned?

[Up to here]

Yes, it is true & what a sad way for them to learn. It is never pleasant (been there, had it done), but these are all people, just like you and me. What an atmosphere to work in. What or who is next & when?

[Bus429]

I think the way in which they learned should be related. Early today, a local news web site posted a copy of an article from the Borneo Bulletin explaining the drastic (IMHO, doomed) measures to bring the company back from the brink. Attached to this article was a list of those already made redundant (local + expat). Also on the list were the names of several in Flight Ops who, it now transpires, had no idea they were to be sacked within the next six weeks. This was soon printed off and was doing the rounds. The company panicked, killed internet access throughout the company (at least in Brunei) and took steps to have the post removed. The list, need it be said, should not have been seen by many! There was also a portion of text, at the bottom of the list, referring to the savings after gratuity and re-patriation costs but no figures followed. I know one of the pilots on the list. He had long-term plans for his family based around his staying with RBA. Bad enough to have been dumped (and my sympathies to all) but to have learned this way demonstrates crass and inept control.. .RBA have also chosen to break both company regulations and contracts without negotiation. They have given themselves the impossible target of a year to break even. There seems to be a great deal of panic at the top. This situation is apparently unique. Nothing of this nature has happened in the history of RBA and they seem to have a problem handling it. The few that hate expats are bound to revel in all this.. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" />

[THINALBERT]

Oh dear,. .. .I still have many expat friends working with RBA, and I wish you all the very best of luck in what must be an absolutely awful time. I knew things were bad but I had no idea that they had gone this far.. .. .Why didnt senior management listen and act years ago. They must have seen this coming. And why punish expats for the failings of senior bruneian management.. .. .Are you still employing hundreds of locals in a job creation exercise.

[Borneo Wild Man]

Ive heard the toll also involves expat Engineers.A sad loss my friends.

[Djoni Boerhanoeddin]

THINALBERT. .. .It is time for them also, I heard the DFO and CP were in that position for more than 15 year, (permanent seat) bad example, corruption, colition and nepatism

[fire wall]

Bus 429, please advise website re article.. .Very sorry to hear this. .Regards

[JUNGLEJET]

Sad news, check these links out.. .. .<a href="http://www.brunei-online.com/bb/fri/mar22h25.htm" target="_blank">http://www.brunei-online.com/bb/fri/mar22h25.htm</a>. .. .<a href="http://www.brunei-online.com/bb/fri/mar22h25.htm" target="_blank">http://www.brunei-online.com/bb/fri/mar22h25.htm</a>

[Metro man]

I think this is the article ,no names though.http://www.brunei-online.com/bb/fri/mar22h25.htm

[Bus429]

Maybe it's all too much!

[Mr Ree]

Cosmo, could you e-mail me?

[slingsby]

A parody is called for here in this sad day for the airline, Yet another Brunein brain fart in the making.. .. .unfinished but options open for the ending..... .. .To be added to Frank Sinatra's song 'MY WAY'. .. .and now the time is near. .and so we face our final flight call. .and now this much is clear . .they screwed it up of this we're certain. .they lived a shallow life. .boy racing up the Tutong highway. .but more much more than this. .they fu..ed it their way. .success they've had a few . .but then again too few to mention. .and as they fumbled through. .Geoff went and blew the whole damn budget. .Planes he bought a few. .and travelled each and every skyway. .but more much more than this. .he spent it his way.. .. .I've run out of inspiration for the rest, about as much as the Brunei management. We've seen it coming. Maybe they've waited until MF has gone so no one can fight on the side of the pilots. No one has fought harder for the rights and privaledges of BWN based crews. Good luck MF. And good luck to the rest.

[Sick Squid]

Fingers crossed, folks, everyone at the Towers is on your side. Hope this resolves for everyone in RBA.. .. .£6

[Bus429]

To all postees,. .Many thanks for your support. However, may I request that we refrain from insulting Bruneians? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> While it may be a convenient way of venting frustrations, it is neither civilised nor polite. Furthermore, it does not help! I have Bruneian friends and they are great people.. .I would agree, however, with any negative opinion regarding the way the whole exercise has been conducted. As stated earlier, it is apparent that the contract means nothing to the board. Even if the amounts are relatively small, the principle counts. It is also apparent to me that they don't care. We were assured, earlier in the week, that there would be no further redundancies for the forseeable future. It is obvious we cannot take them at their word. The leaked document proved that further plans are in hand. I can confirm that some of flying staff mentioned in the leak have now been taken off flying duties pending their departure, proving that it was not merely a proposal.. . . . <small>[ 24 March 2002, 00:31: Message edited by: Bus429 ]</small>

[411A]

Bus429, a small question--. .As I know nothing about RBA...could it be that management wants to downsize the company, so is selectivly terminating contracted aircrew...or are they trying to nationalise the positions?. .And, if either or both are correct, is not management justified in their actions?. .OR, are they just being stupid?

[Bus429]

A bit of all of the above.

[Fuzzy]

Suprise suprise, 411A admits he knows nothing.. .. .And here I was thinking that all the other members were wrong.

[Borneo Baron]

Why dont you guys who dont work for RBA and dont live in Brunei go dirty your own nest and leave us alone

[Up to here]

I would like to second that BB and Bus429 I could not agree more. . .. .The easiest way to get everyone's back up and perpetuate the "them and us" syndrome is to continue slagging each other off. It is a Bruneian Company that we work for and we are here as guests until we are no longer needed. We need to co-exist, not to antagonise. The moment that the "we are holier than thou" arguments start, everyone is on a loser. . .. .It's a very sad and difficult situation that we find ourselves in and for sure it has been handled very badly, however lets not lower ourselves to the same unacceptable level. What is the point in providing ammunition to those who are waiting to use it against us? Let's not tar everyone with the same brush, however, this isn't just a little hiccup that will easily go away. I for one feel rather unsettled.

[tailscrape]

I did my 757 type rating at RBA in 2001. I loved the place. . .. .Subsequent to that I have been threatened with redundancy, which for now has been averted thank christ.. .. .I know how you feel guys, and I wish you the very best of luck.. .. .I trust you will survive.

[nilnotedtks]

bus429 - another of your accurate and characterisitilly mature comments regarding apportioning blame, well put indeed. As you are likely aware, the finger pointing happens everywhere in times of crisis and I guess you people there are no different. My thoughts are with you all in very worrying and unsettleing times and I hope it all works out for you and your families !

[Bus429]

Nilnoted - email your details. Have we met?

[QNH1013]

Off the topic, sorry, but can anyone tell me who is that lovely lady that reads the ATIS in Brunei with the wonderfully soft, sexy and seductive voice? It's so good it almost sounds put on!

[Djoni Boerhanoeddin]

I agree with BB its, your country RBA pay them (the expat)till they no more needed, now its the time we see how the Bruneians wil go, by them self. MF seated to long in RBA he can go back to England enjoy the money he earn for so long without looking, even to other asean people around, we know the only pilots may work for RBA only from Risworth, with a certain nationality only (like the time before Mandela in S. Africa)

[Bus429]

Blacksheep,. .As Quelch use to say, construe!! . .You'd have to be a Billy Bunter fan to understand this!

[Big Kahuna]

Interesting that you should say that QNH1013.. .. .I have heard that she is better suited for Radio than Television, if you get my drift.. .. .Happy Landings

[Djoni Boerhanoeddin]

Tak boleh kerjalah RBA hanja untuk orang puteh, dan malay hanya boleh kerja kotor saja, begitu naseb orang terjajah

[Bus429]

Blacksheep & Broer,. .C'mon, fellas! . .Broer, this post was/is intended to highlight a difficult situation at RBA. It was not intended to become a forum for your gripes against RBA. Like the rest of the expats here, we had to satisfy certain criteria to join. If you really want to work at RBA, why not convert your licence to one recognised by RBA? Good luck with whatever course you choose!

[Bus429]

Front page article in the Borneo Bulletin yesterday revealed several inconsistencies. Apparently RBA is on the up and up. The article stated (and I paraphrase) that reduction in staff may have actually enhanced safety. The implication, unintended, I am certain, is that safety was compromised before this event. Let's hope that this crass report was another example of a journo's talents.. . <a href="http://www.brunet.bn/news/bb/wed/local.htm" target="_blank">www.brunet.bn/news/bb/wed/local.htm</a>. . . . <small>[ 27 March 2002, 23:22: Message edited by: Bus429 ]</small>

[Blacksheep]

John retired years ago...

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[slingsby]

If you mean Captain John Bennett, then yes he is still here.:D

[COWPAT]

2 john Bennets, both Aussie, both captains. 1 retired about 5 years ago. the other I believe is still with RBA.

[18-Wheeler]

Is Ben Gilsenan still with them?
He got his command on the 767 recently, hope he still has it ...

[Ttree Ttrimmer]

I am sure there is a special forum for people trying to locate friends going by the name of Contacts!

Please can we keep to the thread especially as it may effect the peolpe concerned in rather profound ways.

PS Ben is still here and as far as I know has his job still. However I am sure he is as unsure about the future as the rest of us.

[Bus429]

Check out http://www.qatarairways.com and Flight International (wwwflightinternational.com)

[Ttree Ttrimmer]

For those of you that are needy, here are the links I have come up with for the job hunter around here, of which I am sure there are many! This is not the definative list so if you have any more then please share them with us all. Any info on working for any of these companies would be appreciated too.

http://www.hawaiiaviation.com/jobs.htm
http://www.iacglobal.com/
http://www.iasco.com/employment/index.html
http://www.pilotswanted.com/newsletters/2001-06.htm
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/app/saa?hidHeaderAction=onHeaderMenuClick&hidTopicArea=TechnicalCrewAppointments
http://www.easyjet.com/en/jobs/pilotrecruitment.html
http://www.euro-pacific-aviation.com/
http://www.evaair.com/html/global/english/global_tools/carop/gb_en_gt_carop_home/0,1702,,00.html
http://www.parc-group.com/aviation/jobsearch/FlightcrewJobs.asp
http://www.rishworth.co.nz/index.html
http://www.ryanair.com/
http://www.awas.com/company/employment.asp
http://www.virginblue.com.au/

Sorry they have not been done with those pretty little click Here thingys but it is a bit out of my scope of ability.

:cool:

[OldAce999]

The expat had it coming to them after so many years of monopolizing RBA at the expense of the local pilots development.

[THINALBERT]

999, In case you havent noticed, there is no discrimination here between expats and locals, tech or cabin crew, ground or flight crew. Everyone is affected. Ask the local cabin crew who have seen their allowances reduced. Ask the local ground staff who have lost their jobs.

Ask the local F/Os who are applying to EK in large numbers.

All RBA staff are in this together and your comments will do nothing to alter that. :D

[Bus429]

C'mon fellas,

Ignore Old Ace, he/she obviously knows little and wants to learn less.
Let's keep it dignified.

[OldAce999]

Bus429 says:

"Like the rest of the expats here, we had to satisfy certain criteria to join. If you really want to work at RBA, why not convert your licence to one recognised by RBA? Good luck with whatever course you choose!"

Bull**** is spewing from your mouth that is not engaged to your brain, Bus429.

In the 80's an Asian pilot with B737,A300 and DC10 rating was not accepted into RBA for the simple reason he got the wrong color skin. You expats had it good in RBA for too long. We know it you know it.

Time for all of you to go home with your loots.

[Sick Squid]

I will not have this thread turn into an Expat v Local slanging match. There's enough trouble and grief around an issue such as this without small-minded scoffing from either side of the fence. Any more posts along those lines will be deleted without explanation, so don't waste either your time or mine.

Carry on. On-topic, please.

[Borneo Wild Man]

Point already noted, thanks. £6

[Ttree Ttrimmer]

Nobody else has told but I am sure most have heard that the news has become official that 3 FO's a junior Capt. and a ground instructor have been given marching orders. 3 months notice but to leave when they desire. A sad day for all invovled and my commiserations going out to all involved. I think the title of the thread on "reporting Points" sums it up very well. What a superb leaving present for the departing DFO on the day he left as his son was the junior Capt.?

Vindiction or Vindication?

I'll be solving this one by looking elsewhere and I guess joining the queue.

:(

[THINALBERT]

I wonder if RBA realise just how badly they have damaged what was left of the trust and loyalty from there pilots.

I am ex RBA and know that 6 (and probably more) captains have applied within the last 2 weeks for a job with us.

I wouldnt be the new DFO for all the tea in china.

Something obviously needs to be done and quickly.

[COWPAT]

Friends in the abode of peace inform me that the first expat resignations will come shortly after the next pay day when allowances stop been paid, increments are not awarded etc.

[Anaksatan]

Cowpat. I had assumed that the loss of allowances was just scaremongering. Am I right in saying that forthwith ALL allowances including Expat and supplemental through flying pay are to be withdrawn?

If so then the remuneration package is WAY below market average!!! Are the management mad? do they WANT you to go?

Seems to incedible to be true. Please clarify

If this is true then I sympathise with all concerned and wish you well in your search for new jobs

[Bus429]

Rumour has it TA has been reinstated but will not be offered at contract renewal. Increments deferred indefinitely despite being specifically mentioned in the contract as being payable on successful assessment. I passed my assessment but apparently the contract means b*gger all here. I was told management feel they are not in breach.:(

[packard merlin]

anaksatan

heard car allowances cut, no pay increments, no pay rise in approx 15 years. falling well below industry pay.
airline must make profit ( has never in the past ). however will not lay off unproductive staff, would rather cut pay of real workers. im sure this will make the airline profitable, if not i guess more layoffs can be expected.

would the last one out please turn off the light.

:confused:

[Anaksatan]

staggering!!

Looks like a possible downsize?

[Bus429]

Rumour today is that another high-ranking ex-pat has resigned. Any further info?

[Big Kahuna]

I have a way to save some money.

Stop flying to Shanghai with only 6 pax each way. Mind you the service must be great. One and a half hosties each. mmmmmmmmmm....

[THINALBERT]

I know 2 senior captains who are about to save RBA about 15000 Brunei dollars a month each.

[Up to here]

Not quite sure if that would be considered a saving in the long run. But yet again that is probably the way it will be perceived!

Any clues, as to which guys you may be implying Bus429 & THINALBERT, I've been out of the loop for a while?

Thanks.

[Bus429]

Up to here,

It was just a rumour, as yet unsubstantiated. Someone senior in Flt Ops. Thing is, you learn not to believe most rumours!
Thin Albert - is that $15000 between the two of them or $15000 counting the house etc?
If it is, I ve been working for the wrong department!!

[B772]

BND15,000 per month sounds like a reasonable all up cost to BI for a senior Captain.

[Blacksheep]

Latest rumour has it that a fairly new rat from QA has abandoned the sinking ship?

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[Colosseo]

Looks Like The Casual Day Has Gone Too Far For RBA.

[Bus429]

Blacksheep,

Bit unfair on the QA guy, don't you think? I think he has had a better offer.

Anyway, I'm in a good mood - I've got a glass of Abbott Ale on the go - just delivered from Blighty!

[THINALBERT]

Why the term 'Rat?'

I wouldn't blame anyone for leaving RBA for another job.

If he has one to go to, and I think we both know he has several, then good luck to him and all like him.

[Ttree Ttrimmer]

I don't think anyone will be calling anyone RATS when the rumoured pay and benefit cuts come into being!

The current mood around the expats here seems to be very grim and I think it will take a huge amount to bring it back up to where it once was. Pay and benefit losses will just have people leaving by the plane load and lets face it, remove the very professional crews we have here now and replace them with third world drivers and the planes will be empty, so not a problem getting a seat! Don't get me wrong, the local pilots are also great operators and very professional, but will they be able to keep it up with pressure from above to save a cent or 2 and hoards of drivers from the cheaper side of the planet start occupying the vacant seats cutting corners and breaking the rules? Lets hope so.

Good luck to all job hunters in flight ops and even better luck to those who will be left to man the lifeboats.

Vote Feet!

[Blacksheep]

No insult meany by the expression "rat" its just that when a ship is sinking, legend has it that the furry little chaps from below decks are the first to jump. Sheep are made of sterner stuff though, so this Black b*gger'll continue to man the pumps... :p

Abbotts sounds fine Bus, meanwhile over at the Castle and Anchor we've run out of Talisker. I've had to settle for a drop of Johnny Walker Blue Label tonight - at least that's above average for cooking scotch.

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[Bus429]

Blacksheep,

Sorry to relate I also have some Theakstons, also freshly delivered!

[pipersfather]

A lot of outstation staff are over here for a big meeting. Appears that they are going to be told the future direction of the company.

What's up with the rumours of 20 pilots leaving, can anyone verify that?

[Wings]

Just to clarify a point. As at 10:30 a.m. local time (02:30 GMT) on Monday 22 April, NO pilots have resigned since all this started.
Gee there are a lot of runours floating around.
Check the facts.
All that said, I won't be at all surprised if some resignations do appear soon.
The HASH on Wednesday is at Kota Batu near the Yacht Club.:rolleyes:

[Ttree Ttrimmer]

No resignations as yet but many people just waiting for the firm job offer.

Have heard a rumour that the ED has resigned with immediate effect.

[Bus429]

None of the latest rumours seem to have any factual foundation. You either stay and hope for the best or jump and hope for the best, too!:rolleyes:

[Bus429]

Here's one that may not be rumour (it was in the papers) - a former BA executive has been recruited to either advise the board or run the airline. Anyone else able to elaborate?

[Anaksatan]

my god not jenkins I hope. The irony would be unbearable

[Bus429]

Another rumour - apparently "they" have decided there are now too few engineers (due perhaps to the fact that there are many acting as flying spanners) and they need to recruit some more ex-pat engineers!:rolleyes:

[pipersfather]

There's supposed to be an announcement in the first week of May regarding the new BA guy

[Blacksheep]

Meanwhile, I hear that a small, furry, digital data transferring individual is selling a small, bright green Korean Transportation Device for a very reasonable sum? :)

"Hyundai - Prepare to want one..."

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[Bus429]

It'll be on Jungle Drum this weekend!

[Ttree Ttrimmer]

I must be the only person in town who can't find the jungle drum. Care to give us all the address?

Be interesting to see what an expat boss will do here. It means the airline has come full circle and will be admitting a loss of face on the local side. This seems a bit unusual but it is what is needed. Not sure if it will be a popular decision as I am sure his first thing to do will be to get rid of half of the clerks that are surplus to requirements. Could efficiency be looming?

Will it be regional airline, or carry on as is, but a bit more efficiently, loosing the unproductive routes. Time will tell.

[Bus429]

Jungle Drum is an email newsletter. If you want to be put on their list, email [email protected]

[pipersfather]

I've been told the ED's given his notice and is out of here in 3 months. Was also told that RBA is being sued by ex-pilots in London. We know who's got the cash to do that.

[THINALBERT]

Not heard that one, but it would not surprise me. I have heard that there is an investigation ongoing regarding the publishing costs of a recently issued RBA Flight Ops manual.

Comments from those in the abode?

[Ttree Ttrimmer]

Not heard that one either Thin. If it does turn out to be correct it shows the inherent lack of understanding of the aviation industry by the local non flying management.

The new COM was issued in line with JAR's when they came into force last year and had to be approved as such. If you have been to the CAA for anything recently you can understand the costs involved especially when you consider the additional costs to do with corporate applications. It was bound to be expensive from the outset.

Does this sound along the lines of the other popular rumour at the moment of local licensing? Why would we need JAA approval and why not have a Brunei license too. Saves money! Next we will be asked to land with no fuel because we keep going places with 6 to 8 tonnes of fuel we don't use. Why do we need that?

[COWPAT]

See the "more sackings" thread.

Rishworth F/O fired for daring to go sick down route. If true, then RBA really has sunk to the bottom of the pile.

Can anyone reliably confirm this story as I know a lot of people for whom this would be the final straw.

There are also flight safety implications here. People will be frightened into not going sick when they should. This could cause anything from a blown ear drum to a major incident/accident.

Time for a letter to DCA/CAA I think.

(Edited for spelling)

[smokehaze]

Cowpat, just to add some substance to your comments:

I believe that the Rishworth guy has contracted a reasonably serious illness, and the time off required (sick leave) to recover is considerably more than their contract allows.

Not being privy to the details I'm not in a position to comment what happens if you exceed it??

Perhaps one of the current Rishworth pilots could enlighten us on that??

[COWPAT]

I am sure you are correct, but the implication remains ..... go sick and need significant time off and you will be sacked. It may be that the Rishworth contract covers this situation but people will still be reluctant to go sick when they should and that makes it a flight safety issue.

[Wings]

As at 11;00 local (03:00 GMT)on Thursday 25 April, NO pilots had resigned.
No information as to the 'sacked sick pilot'.

Next Wednesday's HASH is at Spg 247 Subok

[THINALBERT]

One reason for that is that several of the pilots who are looking to leave are within 3 months of contract renewal. I believe they have applied for new contracts but that RBA are being very slow in processing them. The method behind the pilots apparent madness is that they are waiting (hoping) for RBA to tell them that their contracts are not being renewed, thus obliging RBA to cough up 3 months salary in lieu of notice.

Now thats the sort of business acumen that RBA ought to try to hold on to.

[Ttree Ttrimmer]

I gather that Rishworth contract allows for 10 days sick leave and if any more is required RBA has the option to terminate that contract. This appears to be the reason behind this decision however unpleasant it may be.

With reference to the lack of resignations there is also the fact that annual increments have been stopped with effect of 21st April 2002. There are a number of guys that have not received increments that were due on or around 1st April 2002 and may well be waiting to see if they get those before addressing the resignation issue as if they are not paid there is the question of breaching of contracts.

Going back a few posts to Pipersfathers earlier post. If you mean that Fox and his cub may be suing, I think you may find that they have better things to do with their hard earned than donate it to a lawyer. Try suing this lot and the ranks close and they make up some story that everyone believes and as far as I know if you sign your contract in Brunei you can only sue using the Brunei judicial system. Not easy even on a good day. If it is someone else please elaborate.

:(

[Bus429]

Defeatist as it seems, legal action is potentially protracted and getting a local lawyer to take it on...?

It can and has been done from the UK but it depends in the magnitude of your actual or percieved loss. If terminating, best play the game.
I was speaking with one of the unfortunately redundant pilots last night. After the initial badly handled redundancy notice, he has been given plenty of time to sort things out and it was my impression that he is not at all stressed.

[Ttree Ttrimmer]

There are a range of personalities in the guys that were laid off (not including AM). One was nearing retirement and would have dearly loved to have been able to celebrate his last flight after many years in the business, another who has several businesses to fall back on, another that has age on his side and the last who has plenty of experience to fall back on. It is not usual for a pilot to show stress in any situation, as an average sim session will surely indicate, no matter what the circumstances.

Time may heal all wounds, but from my communication with the guys involved there seems to be a feeling of getting out while the going is good. It may not be for very much longer. I think this may have more to do with the lack of visible or perceived stress.

It is sad to see a young, dedicated very pleasant and capable pilot such as AM be shown the door. I wish him well in his recovery and subsequent job search.

As for me, I am just waiting for the outcome of DT's and GCU's contract before making a definitive move. Needless to say applications have been submitted. I am sure I am not the only one.

[skyjockey]

Rod Lynch was seen at the Sheraton Hotel in Brunei last week. Any comments??????

[Up to here]

I believe he arrived last night.

Let's hope he has more success with RBA than he has had in his past endeavours. Good luck to him, but it doesn't look promising.

[Sick Squid]

Folks, a word...

Most often as a moderator, I find myself stepping in when something is going wrong in a thread. This thread, on the contrary, despite it's underlying potentially divisive subject actually points out all that I feel is good about this board, and why myself and the rest of the folks give up their time to help it run.

Information is being shared, a life-changing event is unfolding, different opinions are being aired, previous adversaries are coming together, and it's all being done without antagonism and rancour (well, there's been a few try to kick it off....). Rumours are being aired, verified or dismissed, exactly the way it should be. As I said early on in the thread, the thoughts of those who run the board are with you all on this (we talked about it in the pub the other week, actually,) we really want to see a succesful outcome.

Well done. Keep it up.... or else I shoot the puppy.


£6

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[Big Nuts]

I hear there was another engineering resignation today??

[Bus429]

Correct.

[THINALBERT]

And if he signs the contract he has just been offered, a captain will be resigning or not renewing his contract very shortly.

[Bus429]

I think you'll learn that the several contracts up for renewal have been renewed. The only change is loss of TA.

[B772]

Bus429. I think ThinAlbert has confused you with his rhetoric.

I suggest you re-read his posting s l o w l y.

[Bus429]

I'm an engineer - I only do things slowly!
Had a few hassles today with Hum Rems!!:rolleyes:

[THINALBERT]

Yes, I suppose my last posting was not perfect Queens English.

If he (said captain) signs the contract that my company have just offered him then he will not be renewing his contract with RBA.

I hope that clears things up.

[Bus429]

What about the F/O who has just eff oed? Called up while on leave to say he wouldn't be back. This does not help the cause of the expat. If you are going to leave, do the right thing (even if you think you have been wronged. You know what they say, two wrongs etc...). Don't leave car loans and bills outstanding.
A debt is a debt. Wrong industry in which to make enemies.
End of sanctimony.:(

[Big Nuts]

Does "doing the right thing" include working out your notice period then????

[Bus429]

Big Balls,

I negotiated an early release. Far better to talk it through than bluff it out (IMHO).

[Ttree Ttrimmer]

I think you'll find EM had been planning to go for a long time and had, therefore been tying up lose ends as he was packing up his things to leave. I have heard he enlisted a couple of neighbours to clear up final bills and sales. Add to that the fact that he has still got salary outstanding and I am sure the standard $500 held back for 90 days, I see little problem. Bank loans are another thing, but if you think you can run from a bank loan and get away with it, think again. They may not be able to recover the money but they will make life difficult for you and the banks here already make it difficult enough for an expat to get a loan that it isn't going to get any more difficult. What little I know of the guy invovled, he would be very unlikely to leave any things outstanding here and I wish him luck in his new position.

Leaving the way he has, IMHO, has given some fuel for the argument that with poor treatment, low morale and lack of security, people will make such rash moves with no cares as to what situation it will leave the company. More people need to do it. If I get offered a job with a start date tomorrow, I will be gone too and I don't think I would be the only one either. With the current enviroment here, there is very little loyalty to the company and people will leave in this way given the chance.

[Bus429]

Tree - last night at Kota Batu, several of us were speculating as to who you are. Any hints?

[Up to here]

Tree a slight contradiction in your statements:

"I think you'll find EM had been planning to go for a long time and had, therefore been tying up lose ends as he was packing up his things to leave. I have heard he enlisted a couple of neighbours to clear up final bills and sales"

and:

"Leaving the way he has, IMHO, has given some fuel for the argument that with poor treatment, low morale and lack of security, people will make such rash moves with no cares as to what situation it will leave the company."

So basically he planned to do a runner a long time ago. I think I am correct in saying that it is not the first time that he has done this. Am I also correct in saying that he notified the Company that he was not returning to work very shortly after pay day?

I would like to contest the fact that these actions will not hurt others, are we talking logic or reality here? Sure, it's great to see someone get one back on the company he feels has let him down, or whatever, but there are other issues here as well.

[Ttree Ttrimmer]

Bus 429-tell me who you think I am and I will tell you if you're right or not.

Up to here- I was not aware that he had done this before. I know that he was getting ready to leave Brunei for a number of months. He was just waiting for a start date at his new company. There are people in the past that have disappeared without serving notice that have hurt the general expat population by leaving behind them big RBYC bills, outstanding loans and credit card bills. These people tried to disappear into obscurity and generally failed. These are the kind of actions that cause problems in a community. The only angle I can see is that maybe it shows a lack of trust in the expat employee, but then let's face it, were we ever trusted by the locals here really in the first place? The pay day issue, I hadn't picked up on but if I were to do the same I would use a similar time frame. I also understand that he was trying to do everything he could to aviod doing this but faced with taking a job that has a future or staying to serve notice in one without the decision can't have been too difficult. If you feel there are other issues then please share them as I would certainly like to read them. Maybe I am biased by rumour, conjecture and general malease to see anything but the negative sides.

[Up to here]

Am I also right in saying that the new job does not start until July?

[packard merlin]

heard gw has resigned, if true wheres he off to.

[THINALBERT]

I assume you dont mean GW the F/O who was sacked, so do you mean the other F/O with the same initials?

[packard merlin]

thin,
yep, thats what i heard.

[Ttree Ttrimmer]

Up To Here. Don't know anything of his start date but I am sure if it were to be July he would have stayed for a while longer.

Has anyone else heard of DD lodging his discontent and resigning?

[THINALBERT]

TT,

Possibly he left early because he has just become a father and prefers to spend time with his family rather than RBA before changing jobs.

[slingsby]

Big Brother is watching

Have been reliably informed of management seeking information on who is posting what on here. Someone is definately sharpening the knives so watch what you post.

Anyone know what Mrs EM has had.

[COWPAT]

I thought RBA management took no notice of this forum.

Perhaps they are just a tiny bit rattled.

[Up to here]

I think a girl named Sophie.

[Big Kahuna]

You resign, trying to give as much notice as humanly possible. And all they do is sting you for a months pay. Really does make you wonder why you make the effort. Certainly would be simpler to just pack your bag and go.

But I suppose most of us pilots do try to do the right thing. Be it our down fall.

[Blacksheep]

Bus429,

Missed your departure visit my friend but thanks for the e-mail. All the Best in your new future and may the Great Mazuma smile on all your travails. We shall meet on the forums now and then no doubt. :)

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[Hung Like A Horse]

Hi

My initials have been quoted so I must respond.

Back off!

I am faithfully and honestly attending to my own affairs.

How can that be the business of others?

Go ahead if you must, but recall that a few pages back this was quoted as a useful thread.

David

[Bus429]

Hung like a horse,

Sorry to have missed you after our conversation last week with a relative in attendance. I am no longer in BWN but would like to thank all with whom I have worked over the last 14 months for the assistance and challenges. I would also like to thank the guys in QA.

Blacksheep, this afternoon, I had a pint of the eponymous beer - grand! (If any pilots or A & C engineers are wondering what eponymous means, get in touch.).

See you all - please keep in touch!

[Blacksheep]

Bus, that 'eponymous' is the Right Stuff for sure, but right now I'd even settle for a pint of that Green Ming stuff. Paper shuffling sure makes you thirsty but there's precious little relief over here :D

FYI, FC [the Kiwi 'Frog'] is already fixed up somewhere close to your new position.

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[slingsby]

ok, back to some news.

Why if this company is in such dire straits have we still got (according to BB) the Airbus A319's still on order. I know the deposit has been paid and is not refundable, but surely someone must come to the conclusion these new aircraft will cost alot of money. Or perhaps is there finally a long term recovery plan with a whole new fleet (dreaming).

[MR FIXIT]

:eek:
Bus 429, wishing you all the very best in your future endeavours. We still have to crack a tinnie together one of these days. Still enjoying my retirement, keep in touch and send me your new email. Cheers.

REMEMBER FLYING IS THE SAFEST WAY TO FLY

[BANANASBANANAS]

Happy birthday Catriona. Great party.

[Up to here]

BANANASBANANAS

how on earth did you manage to register in DEC 1969?

[BANANASBANANAS]

Just ahead of my time I suppose!

Was I talking to you last night?

[Up to here]

Possible.

[Wings]

Just a Thought.

J.F. B.P. G.W. & G.B. were the 4 pilots sacked.
B.P. G.W. & G.B. were S.F.O.s

RBA "saved money" by dismissing these 4 pilots.

They didn't sack any more presumably because they thought they needed all the other pilots.

Since then;

A.M. has been sacked due to his illness (get well soon mate).
E.M. left on leave and didn't come back.
G.W has resigned.

3 S.F.O.s sacked
then 3 S.F.O.s quit.

presumably we are now 3 S.F.O.s short.

I wonder if RBA would consider offering B.P. G.W & G.B. there jobs back to cover the 3 S.F.O.s who have gone since the sackings.:p

[Raster Scanning]

I agree with BananasBananas

Great party, if only to hear a certain well endowed horse singing along to a particularly bad song.
Nice to see everyone get together and have a good time regardless of the current troubles.

Raster

[BANANASBANANAS]

Thanks Raster, I'm not used to having people agreeing with me.

In the unlikely event that Rod Lynch views this forum it would be opportune to remind him that he has the opportunity to retain a professional, experienced, dedicated and generally happy bunch of expats if only we can feel that we are being treated equitably. You will get far more out of us by reinstating increments, allowances and medical benefits in the short term, and totally reinventing the salary in the long term than you will by trying to save $260pcm per expat.

Lets see, next trip is KUL; that'll be 18 tonnes then!

[Blacksheep]

Hi Bananas,

Another one from Xmas 69 eh?. We old timers must stick together mate! ;)

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[mark one eyeball]

Am I correct in saying that Rod is also on the board of GSS/Atlas at Stansted. If so he will be running 2 companies both with a shoestring budget.....hope he has fun!

[Don Quixote]

Hung Like a Horse

Check your email !

[Raster Scanning]

Ahh but is Rod coming at all ?

[ETOPS MAN]

Off the subject slightly,
but good to see for all those Kiwis in BWN that BI are
seriously investigating 2 x weekly Bne/Akl.

ON ON :D

[Ttree Ttrimmer]

Would that be from the same negotiating table as the Ho Chi Min route, which has been on the cards for an equally ridiculous length of time?

[hebe]

Thanks for your concern and get well messages,

I have fully recovered and hope for a speedy return to the skies with Royal Brunei...........

AM :D

[BANANASBANANAS]

Hey hebe,

Can you EMail me;

[Bus429]

All quiet then, is it?:D

[COWPAT]

Quiet? Well yes I suppose so. Most people are keeping their powder dry and waiting for interviews, job offers, start dates etc at Emirates, Hainan, Dragon, DHL, Virgin Blue, etc etc.

[Blacksheep]

Waiting. Nothing new going on, not that we hear about anyway. No sign of a new CEO so far. The calm before the storm?

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[desmadronic]

Lynch is not coming, the board did not find his solution acceptable. They are now talking to a Mr Cooper.
The solution to RBA's troubles is easy, get rid of unprofitable routes, of which there are many. RBA has never made a profit operating to Tapei , and yet we still go there twice a week.There are many more examples if anyone is interested.

[Tomtit]

Just like that... not like that.. like that

Got to be better that the other comedians we've had!!

[THINALBERT]

As its all gone quiet, I thought we could all contribute our two cents worth of suggestions to RBA. This one isn't mine but I have heard it mentioned and it sounds good to me.

Cancel Housing Allowance and close down premises section
Give all expat pilots a $2000 pcm basic pay rise.
Expat pilots then responsible for own accommodation.

Benefits:

Single F/Os have the option of sharing a rented house if they wish.

There is the option to buy rather than rent, thus giving a "pay rise" (RBA paying for mortgage) of $24000 pa.

Cost to RBA. Nil, Nahda, Zilch. Possibly even a small saving.
Cost to expats. ditto
Benefit to expats. Capital value of house paid for by RBA at rate of $24000 pa. (6 years and a reasonable house is all yours)
Benefits to RBA. No Premises section to run and maintain.
Stable expatriate (house owning) workforce

Have I missed something?

[Tomtit]

Thinalbert,

Yes you've missed quite a lot.

1. Premises is responsible for all RBA buildings not just housing.
2. Buying is not an option for a Green IC holder.
3. Who would want to own a house in Brunei anyway? Not exactly an investment is it?
4. I could be wrong on this one and stand to be corrected but it may not be possible for an individual Green IC holder to rent a property with out the backing of a Bruneian sponsor (eg RBA).

[THINALBERT]

Tom,

1. OK fair point
2. My information (third hand) is that a green ic holder could buy.
3. Agreed. Not exactly an investment, but RBA would effectively be making the investment for you. If you "lost" 50% of the value of the house when you sold, it is still more than you get from the rental deal now isn't it?
4. see2.

Anyone else with any suggestions.

[Bus429]

Some of you still making long term plans, then?

[JUNGLEJET]

Any truth to the rumour that an RBA captain, operated a flight and has failled to return for the flight home.

Done a runner...

[THINALBERT]

I have not heard that one, but it would not surprise me.

Bus, My long term plans are already in place mate, about 5000kms from Brunei.

[Bus429]

Thinalbert,

Gone south east or north east of Brunei?

[desmadronic]

Buying property is not possible unless you use a Bruneian partner. ( and we have already seen how trustworthy the locals are.)
One answer would be to do as some companies do and that is base pilots elsewhere and they just transit Brunei in a hotel when on a slip or when undergoing recurrancy.pilots then responsible for their own tax problems
The airline has to have some direction as to what it should be. Is it a national airline operating to places and at times that the government want or is it a commercial operation. If it is the latter, a workforce of 2400 must be culled and routes that are uneconomic must be suspended.
More importantly the management must be able to make a decision and then stick to it. We currently operate 10 aircraft on an 8.5 aircraft schedule. One minute we are going to lease one or two out next we change our minds and will operate all 10. how can Flt Ops and Cabin crew react to these changes.
One pilot did walk off the roster by not returning from leave.

[Big Kahuna]

The pilots flying on Kiwi licences will be please to see Air NZ getting A320's. That should make it easier to get the A319 on your licence before they arrive next year.

Mind you, thats if you really want to fly a bus?

[Blacksheep]

Latest rumour is that more redundancies will be announced next week. One version says 200 to go, the other says 50, of whom 15 are in Engineering and most of the rest in Finance. Keep watching this space.

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[Bus429]

Blacksheep,

How many more can RBA afford to lose from Engineering?

[Blacksheep]

Bus old chap, I believe the plan is to shut down the avionic, engine and machine shops, get rid of those who don't have any directly related aircraft/powerplant skills or qualifications and transfer those who do to base or line. All efforts to be re-directed into airframe maintenance so that safety standards are preserved, which ought to work well enough. Quite how closing in-house workshops and sending all component work to overseas repair shops will save money though, the BOD haven't explained.

I'm truly amazed that in a company that is said to be unable to account for several years losses, the finance department has so far escaped job cuts. Maybe they will be cleaned up in this round, but I wouldn't bet on it. After all, who guards the guards?

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[Bus429]

It's about time that those in ultimate authority realised that the BOD couldn't run a nasi lemak stall, let alone an airline. What of the foreign CEO? Any takers?
I always thought the workshops were pretty good. About time RBA stopped dreaming about third-party work and concentrated on getting the fleet and passenger service up to the standard of their competitors. Let the government foot the bill again! ;)

[Raster Scanning]

Instead of spreading unsubstantiated stories, why not wait and see, then discuss.
For the expats it is no big deal really, most of you have been with the company for long enough to have a nest egg, and jobs are still around for people who want them. The writing was on the wall last time around so if you are still with the company you must have been happy to stay and take the risk. " Royal Brunei Airlines ", the clue is in the name, it is up to Bruneians to manage or mis-manage as they see fit. Anyone else should put up or shut up. When the new interim CEO is announced on Thursday he will have enough problems to deal with, without a misinformed and paranoid workforce.

[BANANASBANANAS]

Misinformed? that implies some flow of communication from BOD thru management to the workers; there hasn't been any.

Paranoid? Yes, and with dam good reason.


Royal BRUNEI airlines. Fine; if they want it let them have it and see how they survive with no expats in engineering and flight ops.

I have dug my escape tunnel and am just biding my time, Your argument about those that stay being happy doesn't quite seem true then does it.

[Blacksheep]

The 'unsubstantiated story' originated from a manager, is reflected in gossip currently doing the rounds of senior government officers and is reinforced by several other bits of information. The rumour does represent a reasonable interpretation of the evidence and, although the interpretation may not be correct, its not only expats who are affected. Alarm is widespread amongst local staff too and morale is at rock bottom. The correct way to deal with rumours is not simply to deny them, for most rumours have a reasonable basis; Communication is required, addressing the cause of the rumour and explaining what is really going on. When Chicken-licken ran off to tell the neighbourhood that the sky was falling down, he had indeed been hit on the head by a falling object. Though it wasn't really the sky, given the information available to him, that was a reasonable interpretation. When several seperate events point in a particular direction, then unless those events are explained in plain terms, people may be pardoned for drawing their own conclusions. Rumours rarely turn out to be completely true, but they are seldom found to be completely unjustified either.

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[Bus429]

Well said, Blacksheep. I cannot fault anything except your spelling of the word "separate".;)

[Blacksheep]

Good Lord, how did I miss that? I can see you're a natural born QAE Bus :p

Raster - this forum is not an appropriate place to reveal the forthcoming appointment of an interim CEO. The traditional method would be to allow the staff to find out when they open the Borneo Bulletin on Friday morning. Or is this just another rumour?

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[slingsby]

News from the mews chaps,

A certain individual left LHR today, C/O rba first class FOC authority ED asking a hell of a lot of questions about our operations, infrastructure, plans, routes, low yield routes, revenue and non revenue flights, all those things a prospective CEO would be asking. Too inquisitive for a business man or what you could describe as a first class pax.

He will however remain nameless for 24 hours, pending my contact being able to see him arrive and who he meets in arrivals tomorrow. Keep an eye out....

[Blacksheep]

The Cathay retiree (http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/99/0205/biz2.html) likes to think "businesses are saved not by rehabilitation plans but by people, good management." He lists PAL's strengths: "extremely good and profitable domestic routes, good international network with Manila extremely well located geographically, an overseas Filipino target market of 5 million. This business has tremendous potential."

A Mr. Peter Foster arrives in BWN at 1315 on BI094 todaty...

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[Bus429]

Blacksheep,
Looks like the new boss will be there very soon, then. What does "todaty" mean? Have your fingers swollen?

[slingsby]

The name emerges as Peter Foster. Anyone got any clues on his background. Not heard of him. But some very probing and reaching questions asked.

[Clacker]

Slingsby, See Blacksheeps link above.

And also see here (http://www.orientaviation.com/pages/back_issues/00_10/OA_V8N1_Perspective.html)

[Chicken-licken]

Blacksheep

Word in the farmyard is that you have finally cracked up, I knew all along it was not the sky, just thought I would start a good unsubstantiated story to keep people gossiping for a while.
By the way if you ask nicely I am sure Bus 429 will marry you, as he seems infatuated.

[BANANASBANANAS]

Captain resigned yesterday to go to SQ. Command on 777. Good luck Norm.

[Blacksheep]

No chance of a wedding there Chicken-licken, Bus429 doesn't like my fat clumsy fingers. They may be no good for typing, but they're finger-licking good when you're done eating the chicken :p

An already demoralised workforce have good reason to be suspicious. Plausible stories put out by managers are hardly a good way to maintain confidence, especially when independent events tend to confirm that the story has truth within it. To return to my earlier point about communication, an effective recovery plan needs committment from the entire workforce. To achieve this, management must stop relying on corporate terrorism and be more open and honest about their plans. Resistance to change is rooted in uncertainty, take away the uncertainty and resistance disappears.

Meanwhile, back in the fabled farmyard, the sky may well be firmly in place but watch out for the chestnuts. There's a few shaky looking ones still on the tree - check out Doctor Foster's pedigree for a start...

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[Big Kahuna]

I believe one more F/O has given notice in the last day.

Time to call up those favours...

[BANANASBANANAS]

Spill the beans then. Lets have some initials.

[desmadronic]

Branks. The Bod are thrashing around clutching at straws, or Fosters. they do not have the ability to make a reasoned decision, partly because they nothing of aviation. By reducing the morale of the workforce in general, and the keepers of their biggest asset, the aircraft, It is clear that things will only get worse. What chance of getting the pilots to come in on a day off, or make a particular effort to do a short/visual approach to save money?
The BOD should consider opening a string of noodle stalls.

[Blacksheep]

Aha! One of the demoralised I presume? I believe the BOD went into airline management after "Noodles R Us" went bankrupt.

BTW, Don't ever mention short visual approaches to pilots, they just love doing that. Try sitting in the layby near Kidlington for a couple of hours and you'll soon see what I mean. Isn't it strange how the grabbers disappear when the management mention TOIL?

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[Bus429]

Blacksheep,

Never copped you for a spotter but there you go. I've just been fitted for the morning suit. How does the dress fit?

Seed you soon.;)

[BANANASBANANAS]

Now heres a deal for the new CEO. You stop costing me $500+ pcm in lost transport allowance, increments, medical benefits etc and I'll stop costing the airline $5000+ pcm in increased fuel burn costs. There is a lot of talent left in RBA. Do you want it working for you or against you?

[desmadronic]

The sublety of fuel burns etc would be totally lost on this gang.If you think the loss of transport allowance is bad just wait and see what is next in store.
Even the previously enjoyed relationship between expat and local pilots are now being strained. Recent local promotions have a political are about then, not just to command but into the training dept. Rest assured the pressure will remain to get rid of the expat asap so that the salary bill can be substantially reduced.
The BOD and senior management want to find out the hard way and will not take any notice of the experiences of SQ and GF who thoght they could do better on their own. I'm keeping my CV instantly available!

[Bus429]

...and what is next in store?

[THINALBERT]

Please do tell.

[JUNGLEJET]

Is it Tupps?

[THINALBERT]

This thread has run for 188 posts now and I feel that it may have served its purpose. Does anybody else wish to contribute or is it time for me to delete it.

[Bus429]

Why delete it? Desmadronic has promised more. :D

[THINALBERT]

Ok bus we'll let it run. Over to you Des. Any news on Mr Foster or shall I look at my online Borneo Bulletin for the latest.

My latest copy of flight says RegionAir are looking for 767 drivers.

[uaecamel]

Thinalbert, this is the only site to get the latest news on RBA. You just have to see how many hits it gets every day. Not least its always correct, and often days ahead of the BB. Keep it going mate.

[THINALBERT]

OK UAE Mate, We'll let it run. In the meantime, does anyone from the abode have any hard facts.

[desmadronic]

Sorry, I've been away earning a crust. Foster has signed for 2 years to officially take over on the 1 Sept. He has already commented on the the huge overstaffing that RBA enjoy. With the current ED having resigned but still in place due to him being the accountable manager on the AOC, he will either have to stay until 1 Sept or their will have to be an interim CEO ( easily approved by the DCA who basically do as they are told)
One a/c offered for service recently ex the hanger with a seat pan broken,no problem there until the Captain says lets check the rest. 30% of EY broken.Not very good for the pax to see 70 plus seats with "Inop " stickers on them.
This is what happens when you p*** the boys off.
I heard tell of one Andrew Lithgow who was with the airline on the 737's and he would check everything and frequently find something that was safety related and demand a check of the complete a/c. Many delays followed and of course he could not be faulted. This is the way RBA will ,unfortunetly go again unless some small olive branch is offered to us all.

[Bus429]

Funny you should mention seat pans...

RBA reluctant to fund the replacement of same. As a consequence, most have multiple repairs with many deferred replacements as a result.
Ergo, state of seats not really the fault of the cabin team. The RBA culture does not encourage the dissenting certifier.
Also, many pax complaints about thin seat cushions. All except those on the GE powered 767s are very old (the cushions, not the pax) and as flat as a roti john. On a recent trip to LHR, I sat for many uncomfortable hours with what was left of the seat pan poking my posterior.
Seats none too clean, either.

[Clacker]

They have done it again, no notice to staff, read it first in BB, or BruDirect. :rolleyes:


Ex Brunei Corruption Head To Act As RBA Chief
By Ignatius Stephen
Bandar Seri Begawan - Former Anti corruption head has been appointed temporarily as Acting Chief Executive Officer of Royal Brunei Airlines (RBA) effective from yesterday.
He is Dato Paduka Haji Ahmad bin Haji Ibrahim, now a RBA Director who will act for a month as CEO when Mr Peter William Foster, a British citizen will take over the post.
The RBA Board of Directors announced yesterday that it has appointed Mr. Peter William Foster as the new Chief Executive Officer of the Company with effect from September 1.
The handing-over of duties between Pengiran All bin Pengiran Haji Ahmad, the current Executive Director of the Company and Mr. Peter William Foster was held at the Royal Brunei Recreation Club (RBRC) on Wednesday July 24.
Present at the ceremony were members of the Board of Directors and senior management of the Company. Pengiran Ali left the national carrier on July 31 on an early retirement, the release said.
During the interim period, the Board of Directors has designated Dato Paduka Haji Ahmad bin Haji Ibrahim, a member of the Board of Directors of the Company, as the Acting Chief Executive Officer of the Company from August 1 to August 31.
"With these changes, the Board of Directors has re-designated the post of the Executive Director as the Chief Executive Officer with effect from August 1," the release added.
The new Chief Executive Officer, a British citizen, was educated at Cambridge University and INSEAD, France.
He has considerable experience in aviation, principally in both Europe and Asia with Cathay Pacific Airways Limited (CPA), having joined the airline's owner, John Swire and Sons Limited, in September 1982.
In January 1999 he left CPA to found Regent Star Services Limited, an airline management company that was appointed to provide management advisory services to Philippine Airlines Inc (PAL).
In his capacity as Chief Company Advisor, he led a team that successfully restructured PAL and returned it to profitability. He has subsequently worked in the Middle East and Europe prior to returning to Asia to join RBA, the release said.
Brudirect.com

[Bus429]

So the next round of redundancies will be posted on BruDirect fairly soon?

[desmadronic]

If the interim CEO ( ex anti corruption bureau boss) gets his way,an he probably will, he will continue to pull the strings even after Foster arrives. It may also be of interest to any expat who doesn't already now it, he wants the country ,and in particular, the airline localised as soon as possible, if not before. I for one have dusted off my CV again although iwas hoping to do another 3 years here.This is looking increasingly unlikely.
If the plan comes off to wet lease a geriatric, rusty 757 to Fiji comes off, no doubt we'll all be off to the Pacific until it's discovered Fiji can't even pay for a 757.

[Blacksheep]

I seem to remember that the State of Fiji abandoned a B707 at Malaysia's Subang airport several years ago because they couldn't pay the parking charges. If I'm wrong someone will no doubt correct me, but I seem to recall that it brought Fiji's Head of State on an official visit to Malaysia: no sooner had he left the airport than someone slapped a lien on it for unpaid onvoices, leaving the poor fellow to cadge a lift back home. The abandoned B707 eventually became a restaurant in Section 14, Petaling Jaya until the sorry wreck was finally carted off for scrap a couple of years back.

RBA's current commercially experienced BOD will have inquired into the State of Fiji's ability to pay for the 757-2M6 before it departs, so there's obviously no cause for concern today.

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[Bus429]

Ever the optimist, Blacksheep!

[Clacker]

I don't know about any wet lease of a geriatric rusty 757 to Fiji. But I do know of a planned wet lease of an ex hanger 12C check expertly overhauled, no rust or corrosion, with new paint job, B757-2M6 to Tonga.

[slingsby]

Yes, Tonga not Fiji. One B757 with 6 crews. If you fancy flying fish to Japan via Guam that is.

From the company Berita magazine several years ago, it remains in my mind with all the changes and ill feeling around. An article ran:

''We would like to have all Expat First Officers replaced with local crews with 5 years and all expat Captains within 8 years. Also we would like to have Brunein's in all senior positions within the company within 5 years''

Now this is my own recollection of the article, not an actual quote, worded as it is, what is happening now seems to be playing out what the company has had in mind for sometime. Other than that no other gossip. Oh, by the way, our new CEO, when he went into PAL, was noted as saying to outsize and grow you have to downsize and slow. Now make what you want of that but where is the next three months going to lead.

J.E. , Big NZ Henry said hello for the next hash.

[14U]

Clacker. Well its not painted yet. Seems that one moment the decision to paint is made, then its put on hold again and yet another meeting takes place. Lets hope it does happen though, will suit us Islanders.

[pipersfather]

Has anyone met the new CEO? First impressions?

[Anz]

Is anyone able to advise me as to the state of play with the Brunei's international cargo facility?

Are there any plans to develop it properly, or shall it just muddle on?

[slingsby]

You can shuffle as many people into as many different posts as you want, but it's still akin to organsing deckchairs on the Titanic.

[Blacksheep]

The Titanic foundered because there weren't enough engineers in the crew and no serious attempt was made at damage control.

I prefer the HMS Nottingham simile where, instead of abandoning ship, the crew responded to the real emergency, plugged up the holes and kept the ship afloat. Whether she sails again depends on decisions taken at the highest levels of the MOD, but if she doesn't put to sea again it will be no fault of Nottingham's Marine Engineering Department. (BTW, Nice one Craig. Damned well done!)

Keep pumping chaps, keep pumping!

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[Bus429]

In keeping with the nautical analogies, I'm glad you are all keeping your heads above water!:)

[Blacksheep]

Hi Bus. I see at least one of the rats made it ashore! :D

How's life in the Holy Land then?

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[Bus429]

Things OK, so far. Interesting job.;)

[MR FIXIT]

Is it really that bad, then? I hear they lost the engineering contract in Vietnam. Good to know there a couple of king rats about still.

FLYING IS THE SAFEST WAY TO FLY

[Blacksheep]

King Rat???? I'm a bloody sheep for Chr***'s sake! How big are the moggies where you're at then? :rolleyes:

The Vietnamese contract wound down slowly until all that was left was the 767 'C' Checks. Not much money in that, without the support contract. We did what we were engaged to do - teach the Vietnamese guys how to do it themselves and we succeeded.

Its very frustrating when the finger is pointed at us as a shower of w*nkers by the ticket sellers and beanies, but thats how it goes for engineers, I suppose. After all this time I'm used to it. Doctor Foster has set us to work designing a new cabin decor for the A319s that arrive next August, so now we're fashion designers - there's no-one else with the bottle to take it on. I think I might get to like this guy... ;)

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[MR FIXIT]

BLACKSHEEP, hi there. I always thought you were a conehead, how did you get yourself into the Versace/Dior/Yves St Laurent League?
It sounds more and more like your organization is modelled on The House That Jack Built, you know the one where the cat ate the rat? As you supposed, the moggies down here are HUGE! Anyway, all the best, see you sometime in lalaland.

FLYING IS THE SAFEST WAY TO FLY

[GOH]

Sorry I am not very smart:(

Wat does "expat" mean

Thankyou

[Bullishit]

:rolleyes: Should,nt GOH mean DOH?

[Big Kahuna]

Looks like a few more pilots are about to leave the sinking ship.

The new CEO has started off well.

By not putting the current Rishworth Pilots on a RBA contract he has been able to save money. Not in the way he probably was intending though, as I am sure most will leave now.

And them what will cost them more.

Good luck to them.