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Etihadghostrider
20th Apr 2008, 10:04
Shortly on E-Bay a colleague will be offering his Etihad seniority number for sale.

After nearly five years of asking if soon he could be bidding flights. requesting more than 4 days off, other than the mandatory rest between two ULR's. Seing his confirmed bussiness ALT changed to an economy, seeing the brand new villa's going to new joiners and being stuck in an old building and not being allowed to move. Having watched SR from HR appropriate a colleagues apartment and take it as his own and getting the company to cover the AED 170 000 rent. He has come to a drastic decision.

That is by being a founding employee he see's no hope in his future with this company and get's no reward for his time served. His seniority number is entirely useless and he plans on abondoning this farce as soon as possible. In fact he plans to emulate his management team. He will grab all he can get in the short term and then jump onto the next best show.

If there is someone out there who believes that they have a future at Etihad and would like to jump a few steps forward on the non existant seniority list, starting bids for the seniority number will start at AED 10000
Friday evening at 1800 GMT on E-bay.

A UAE lawyer says it is possible to do this and states the example of the current local practice of selling low vehicle number plates for exorbitant sums.

RH said in a recent meeting, we are still relatively young and these things take time.

In fact they don't. What they take is an open checkbook and a managers willingness to spend his budget on his employees quality of life at the expense of his annual bonus.

Our colleague does not want to waste any more time at EY.

"Abandon all hope ye who enter here"

nsfw
20th Apr 2008, 12:01
I will be watching this spot.

:D

Insh Allah
20th Apr 2008, 16:46
EXCELLENT... I'll bid, 10001 to get the ball rolling.. Just wondering if his seniority is better than mine...

Just brilliant lads.. :D

Driver of Buses
21st Apr 2008, 01:47
Hmmm, another E-bay first.

Maybe a limited market but then again quite a clever and unique solution.

As a word of advise. You may have to employ the services of a spin doctor or media marketing consultant so as to word the e-bay description in a way to make it sound attractive and desirable. In its current form you may have to pay people take it.. :)

CT7
21st Apr 2008, 03:21
This I gotta watch..... :E


What they take is an open checkbook and a managers willingness to spend his budget on his employees quality of life at the expense of his annual bonus.
That one sentance sums it all up nicely. :ugh:


Too funny…. I would say that the chequebook is not the only issue – the desire to uphold a clear system & standards is also part of the equation… that’s where the bitterness really starts to erode goodwill… :=

xavierb
21st Apr 2008, 05:55
Hi guys,
I might have a chance to join Etihad very soon ( don't tell me I shouldn't, I just lost my job...), so, just one question if you could advise me:

Rostering (lack of...as I understand): Is there any difference if I join the bus or the 777 fleet ? What about the 320 ?

Thank you (and no, I'm not going to bid for your seniority number, I'm broke, sorry...)

Xavier
ex-O sis.....

CT7
21st Apr 2008, 07:04
Er, who thinks you have any choice in where they put you... but if you're Airbus rated start thinking about the 320...

abudhabitaxidriver
21st Apr 2008, 08:14
Excellent thread... very funny...but so true !!!
Xavierb please stay away from this outfit absolute waste of time...
Good luck

Kabullet
21st Apr 2008, 10:26
Also ex Oasis, is it really that bad at Etihad? Salary urgently needed so can take SOME pain....:sad:

whatzmyname
21st Apr 2008, 11:57
Dhs10 000 for an Etihad staff number is too much.:}

alghazal
21st Apr 2008, 16:01
If you have a chance, avoid EY, go Air Arabia, EK , SQ, CX or chinese carriers...Indians, well not sure, but definitely not EY


So far Air Arabia has a good offer on A320

xavierb
21st Apr 2008, 17:27
I guys,

I understand you're not all that happy at EY..... BUT, I'm jobless, and I "might" get an offer for that job.( not for BA, AF, UPS,etc..). I "might" as well .... have the choice btwn 320, 330, or 777.
So, wich one is the best (I mean not as painful as..) for quality of life (roster stability, off days) ?
Thanks a lot,
And keep it up !

Xavier

Jetjock330
21st Apr 2008, 17:34
Xavierb, Check your private messages.

BCF Breath
22nd Apr 2008, 04:52
So, when does this all go live...?

Kabullet
22nd Apr 2008, 08:51
Xavier,

whats the gen? Is this a no go?

T

kissmecaptain
22nd Apr 2008, 09:30
Great thread....

Waste of time bidding for a new seniority number as the new guys that turned up on Sunday where told that there's no accom for them...

The new guys that joined are gutted.. Been told a pack of lies to get them here....

These guys have sold houses, resigned from jobs and packed there families up to come here.

This is how they treat people...

Driver of Buses
22nd Apr 2008, 10:00
Slightly off thread topic but curious.

Where were the new guys and families placed then if no accommodation available on their arrival?

Hotel room for a family is a bit cramped unless its the Presidential suite...

Sireh
22nd Apr 2008, 10:14
Off the topic too, but many years ago a MAPA ( Malaysian Airlines Pilot Association ) President forced the Secretary to award him a senioriy number of a retiree so that he could be within the top ten!!! The fact was that he joined MAPA quite late ( so that he can run for presidency...he was a true sleeper management honcho ).

Maybe he should bid for EY seniority #1 to look good too!

xavierb
22nd Apr 2008, 17:06
Thanks Jet' !

Still no one to answer my question ???
Is the 777 better than the bus for rostering, off days, .... The fact that more bussess are on order would mean that that fleet will always be under staffed ?
Anyone ??

Mr Angry from Purley
22nd Apr 2008, 17:32
Job Role:
The role will plan the most economical and efficient Flight Deck Crew Roster for the specific roster period within the GCAA Regulatory and Company’s guidelines. The role will be responsible for meeting the Airline’s objective to legally cover all the flying routes with qualified flying crew, training assignment, leave allocation, for all Flight Deck crew.


Knowledge:
The individual must be capable of working without close supervision, a self motivated, and detailed oriented person. The candidate must possess problem solving skills and be dedicated to meet deadlines that are set as company targets and guidelines. Required to rebuild rosters and pairings to meet base manning levels, must do so on own decision of which flights and rotations will be affected;
Decision making on what training courses, to add or delete, if the flying program cannot be covered due to shortages of crew availability verses amount of ground activities and other planned absences;
Also responsible to cancel crew members Leave if the manning levels are not in line with the operational requirements. This type of decision is a potential major cost as the crew member may be entitled to Leave Buy-Out options / policies. The crew planner has to contact the applicable department of any such actions above, and also directly to the crew member if their Leave has to be cancelled, replaced, and/or paid out.

Q1. What an advert, someone should be hauled over the coals for such a job spec.
Q2 Maybe sums up the original posters post!:\

nsfw
22nd Apr 2008, 23:10
Is that an actual job advert?

EY346Driver
23rd Apr 2008, 12:58
Xavierb

Cannot comment on A320 or A330 but A340 I'm getting 16 days at home (including stby not called out) a month and doing good overtime too. A friend on B777 is also pretty good with about 13 days at home.

I do understand that the A320 guys are working quite hard but dont know their average roster.

Cheers

sandblasted
23rd Apr 2008, 14:34
16 days off? what happened to the 3 and a half ULR's a month plus shorthaul! please lets swap rosters!! Im well over 100 pm factored, rosters appear to be very inconsistant:eek: If you request 4 days off you get back to back Sydneys, personal choice but I find the present reduced days off between ULR's knackering longterm, sod the so called overtime pay, give me quality of life anytime, most guys on 777 appear to be doing 70 hrs, A320 will be busy due to temporary shortages!

Etihadghostrider
26th Apr 2008, 13:19
Unfortunately, our colleague can no longer sell his Etihad seniority number.
In their continuing effort to make time spent at Etihad a worthless event and exhibiting yet one more example that our HR line management team could not come up with a good idea of their own, even if they looked up airline and aviation in the dictionary.

They have stolen this good idea. After reviewing the documents they have found that 20 of the original 50 pilot's have since seen the light and have left, if not for greener pasture's than ones with less ordure.

Our HR/management team is now offering these 20 numbers at bargain basement prices. SR is planning to unveal this at Hogan's next road show
as a yet another method to make money and break even in 2010.

Bring your checquebooks to the event.

Consider this an opportunity to be a senior Etihad pilot! That low number is just like a low license plate, it will wow all the girls.

Labomba
26th Apr 2008, 16:51
Guys, some good news for you:
The King of crew planning ,(and also Ops Manager) at defunct Oa is HK seems to be on his way to AUH... do' no if he will hold the same position (IMHO he should be CEO), but the boy is so nice with pilots that we all wanted to marrry him... Now, give him enough crews to do his job....

Asta la never!

LB