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MikeSamuel
7th Apr 2008, 16:25
Just to reiterate the post I made on the Highland thread under a more suitable title...

If you have (or nearly have):

A PPL (either NPPL or JAA should be OK)
A JAA Class 1 Medical
A driving licence
Are aged 18-26 (upper limit is flexible-ish)
Are enthuastic, energetic, open-minded, love flying and are willing to take a bit of HARD WORK.
And are able to live/work in the UK as a permanent resident...

Then go to this website: http://www.flyaft.com/contentok.php?id=74

Fill in the form and get it sent in. The scheme is undergoing some change at the moment - you may be offered a cadetship/training subject to a payback of a proportion of your training costs when you finish. However, this is still a great deal - you will be almost guaranteed secure flying employment for several years and it's FUN if you are happy to work hard in the short term while focussing on long term gain.

The scheme isn't traditionally advertised very publicly, and word tends to be spread through personal contacts and Atlantic Flight Training students. So, you've been spoon-fed the essential info...what are you waiting for?!

stercus-accidit
8th Apr 2008, 11:12
I can't see many details about the commitment required from a cadet on the website.

Also this statement:

"you will be almost guaranteed secure flying employment for several years and it's FUN if you are happy to work hard in the short term while focussing on long term gain."

...It doesn't really mean much, I've heard that some cadets work for up to a year before starting flying training and then are heavily bonded upon completion.

Where would the cadets be for their 'secure flying employment', Could they expect a job flying an Electra / ATR / 404? There is a big difference.

Care to add a few details.

Miles_JAN
8th Apr 2008, 11:36
The scheme isn't traditionally advertised very publicly

How many people do you think read this Mike...!

stercus-accidit
8th Apr 2008, 12:18
The scheme isn't traditionally advertised very publicly

Why not? wouldn't it be better to have wide audience, a wide variety and high number of applicants and therefore be able to pick the best candidates.

Why the secrecy?

buzzc152
8th Apr 2008, 12:21
I think you'll find that Atlantic Airlines only flies Electras and ATP. The Atlantique group split sometime time ago and now operate as 3 or 4 seperately run companies.

stercus-accidit
8th Apr 2008, 12:27
Thanks buzzc152.

I should think that would be a lot better as the candiates would, eventually get multi-crew time.

buzzc152
8th Apr 2008, 13:03
Maybe. I spent 2 years flying 404 and alike single crew.... hardest job I ever did but also the most enjoyable.

Anyway, I hear AA is a good outfit to work for so best of luck to those who apply.

Chris Prophet
8th Apr 2008, 16:44
As Mike said it is hard work and long hours but it really is short term pain for a long term gain and will be well worth it in the end

the scheme definatly isnt for everyone it is difficult and very testing but as ive mentioned before if you want it bad enough you will do it

Yes there is a bond its over 5 years and includes 50% of your training fees and your type rating

ive been with atlantic airlines as a cadet now for 6 weeks and although its tough i do still really enjoy it all

C

MMEMatty
8th Apr 2008, 19:35
Bit more info:

the "traditional" cadet has been a low houred PPL, no ATPL groundschool, just the basics as outlined above by Mike.

After employment by the company, the cadet can expect 6 months of full time "fug duties". Full time means full time. 7 days a week, 24 hr standby. Basically ferrying aforementioned Electra / ATP crews from the Coventry base to the aircraft. In addition to this, the cadet will be expected to help out in ops / engineering / on the ramp acting basically as semi-skilled labour.

During the first 6 months (usually after 3 or so months) the cadet will be cleared to start supervised, constructive hours building on the C152. Initially 4 hours per month will be permitted by Atlantic Airlines.

After the first 6 months, the cadet will start distance learning for the ATPL groundschool, and will recieve 2 days per week away from work to study.

After that it depends on how quickly you can get through the ATPL's as to when you start CPL/MEP/IR/MCC. And after that, you will be put on the next type rating course being run by the company.

Anything else to mention?

Well, it is HARD WORK. As i said, first six months are tough, but worthwhile. You learn a lot about yourself, and how much you want to be a pilot. They are fun though - i have a lot of fun memories from my first six months. It all depends on what you make of it.

Although the model is based on cadets with the bare basics, don't be put off if you have more than that - we have fugs with the groundschool completed, some have even joined with CPL/IR before.

personally i think its a cracking scheme (but then maybe i'm a bit biased)

Matty

hingey
21st Apr 2008, 12:03
Airlines are actively recruiting cadets, with an intake planned to start next month so if you fancy being a pilot nows the time to get your application in!

h

GoGoGadgetGear
6th May 2008, 17:33
Good luck on Monday & Tuesday lads!!

craigy06
7th May 2008, 21:08
GoGoGadgetGear and John, where you guys staying when you are over?

Do you know who got through?

Good luck for Monday and Tuesday, see ya then:bored:

Kerosine
7th May 2008, 21:44
MikeSamuel your link on post 1 is dead.

Then go to this website: http://www.flyaft.com/contentok.php?id=74http://www.flyaft.com/

karirayi
11th May 2008, 08:46
ow u doin ,op i find u well i was intested by ur thread about e cadet trainin program ,ba i cldnt access e link so cl u help me out

karirayi

Slipstream86
12th Oct 2008, 11:16
Does anyone know what the latest on this scheme is?

if not ill be sending an email

hingey
12th Oct 2008, 11:24
I don't think they need fuglies anymore as they've persuaded pilots to do the Cadet's jobs.

h

Slipstream86
12th Oct 2008, 14:31
Gutted :uhoh:

x933
12th Oct 2008, 16:11
Straight from the horse's mouth there...though from what i've heard I don't think you could really call it "persuasion"...

G-BFUN
12th Oct 2008, 16:40
Hey Everyone
Does anyone know if Atlantic are running any cadetships recently? And what do Atlantic normally require if you come fresh out of training on your own with a fATPL?

MMEMatty
12th Oct 2008, 19:55
As long as they keep dangling the carrot...

Kanu
12th Oct 2008, 19:55
normally 1000 hours TT for direct entry.

The 4 previous posts to yours will answer your first question.

hingey
13th Oct 2008, 13:06
though from what i've heard I don't think you could really call it "persuasion"...

Gentle persuasion then! At least, that's what I was told... I wonder how this merger will affect the cadet scheme.

h

G-BFUN
13th Oct 2008, 20:21
I have just got a bit of confusion on the whole topic.
With whats happening in the world I assumed any cadetship would have been chopped but...

I know in the past Atlantic Flight Training at Coventry used to train the cadets but now multiflight in Leeds does their training and has a brand new application form... Anyone know any information about what direction this cadetship is going in? If it has been moved to multiflight in Leeds with application forms surly they are still screening applicants?

Chris Prophet
15th Oct 2008, 02:08
There is still a great need for cadets at Atlantic Airlines

As for the next intake or screening i cannot answer as with the current climate things have been "slowed" down a bit

as for pilots doing cadets jobs ive not really seen any of this.....

Humaniser
15th Oct 2008, 08:00
From what I hear, Atlantic have slowed down their intake on cadets with the market slowing down a bit. The scheme will still be running so for those of you still looking for sponsorship, dont be disheartened, things will get moving again soon!

RSFTO
15th Oct 2008, 09:50
It seems to me that this is a smart way to provide cheap ground workers.

Toddes21
15th Oct 2008, 10:13
"as for pilots doing cadets jobs ive not really seen any of this....."


LOL, I won't bother coming into work tomorrow then Chris!

hingey
15th Oct 2008, 11:47
as for pilots doing cadets jobs ive not really seen any of this.....

So the 3 Electra guys who didn't finish their training aren't pilots then? (Well, we know 2 of them are just wasters, but one of them is a REAL pilot! :E )

MMEMatty
15th Oct 2008, 18:00
Whilst i accept that my colleagues are wasters, they are valued members of the atlantic family nonetheless :ok:

Keep up the good work guys! We can't all be steely eyed sky heroes!

Will88
15th Oct 2008, 18:45
It seems to me that this is a smart way to provide cheap ground workers.

Maybe so, although it's also a smart way for somebody with a bit of motivation and an aversion to gargantuan bank loans to get their CPL/IR.

randy crawford
15th Oct 2008, 19:47
The current status of the Atlantic Cadet Scheme;

All current training has been stopped. That includes ATPL groundschool, hours building and CPL/IR training, and Type Rating. THERE IS NO SET TIME FOR THE TRAINING TO RESUME.

The current crop of cadets were told to expect at least a 6 month delay in training, but could be up to 18 months before any of them saw an aircraft again. Naturally some left at this stage.

3 guys who were on an Electra TR (2 ex cadets and one direct entry) have had that type rating stopped. ALL 3 ARE NOW DOING CADET (GROUND) DUTIES, WITH NO GUARANTEE WHEN / IF THE TR WILL RESUME.

I do not know if there is a need for cadets, however i would advise anyone interested to think, think and think again if this is the scheme for you... yes it is a cheap way into the industry but you do have to work very very hard for it, and even then there are no guarantees.

goodnight and goodluck

Will88
15th Oct 2008, 19:57
Or maybe not so smart after reading that last post.

:rolleyes:

randy crawford
15th Oct 2008, 22:12
No im not one of the cadets that quit, although i do work at coventry airport and am friends with some of the guys at atlantic.

just dont want anyone to stumble into anything without realising whats in store. personally i think that the guys there deserve a bit more than they are getting, they have definitely worked hard enough for it.

goodnight and goodluck

leedspotter
23rd Dec 2008, 14:43
Ive heard a rumour around the schools cafe that they are looking to do a cadet intake during january! could be interesting i think, looks like a good scheme.

Get an application in QUICK anyone interested in the scheme and hopefully i will see you at an interview :p thats if they like my application of course lol



Cadet Pilot Flight Training: Multiflight Leeds Bradford Airport (http://www.multiflight.com/flight-training-centre/cadet-scheme.php)

MMEMatty
24th Dec 2008, 21:35
Rumour in Coventry is the same...

... And these rumours tend to be true (case in point is the West Air thing)

But there has been no official news, i hasten to add.

fugly4life
1st Jun 2009, 15:04
New Intake coming up again!

Applications must be in with Multiflight in the coming days to have a chance.

monkeypuzzle2009
8th Jun 2009, 21:13
Are you still with them?

monkeypuzzle2009
8th Jun 2009, 21:19
Any pointers for a potential interviewee??

cTcPilot
28th Nov 2009, 16:24
Is there anyone on this forum attending the assesments next week at Multiflight?

steggers
28th Nov 2009, 17:06
Yep i'll be there.......am looking forward to it, but am worried about the multi choice exams. Does anybody know what sort of questions are in the science exam? I know it's GCSE standard but i want to know what to revise??????