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nosefirsteverytime
20th Mar 2008, 10:04
Didn't think so.

Here's some arty aero-pics.

http://www.artsfairies.com/aircrafts/lacartamilitares11.jpg

http://www.artsfairies.com/aircrafts/lacartamilitares06.jpg

Fine images.

(ahh that's better)

Maufe
20th Mar 2008, 10:09
Fine images.

As long as you ignore the people on the ground who you can't see. You know, the ones being killed or maimed.

nosefirsteverytime
20th Mar 2008, 10:15
I was more referring to the workmanship of the painter than what was being depicted.

Just that little bit miffed at being asked to look at buses as opposed to railway engines or actual aircraft.

First thing google came up with when faced with "aircraft art" that wasn't noseart.

My "bad" :rolleyes:

Whole point of thread: artsy images of flying machines.

Demonstrate/Discuss.

note: Nothing against ye bus twitchers, just ye got my hopes up then shot them back down again.......

Maufe
20th Mar 2008, 10:23
Oh yes Nosefirst I understand that and its not any kind of attack on you. Just posting my immediate reaction thats all.

Alloa Akbar
20th Mar 2008, 11:24
well spotted Maufe.. The artist has failed to present a true representation of the scene in the 1st pic.. where is the victim of the "Friendly fire" incident??:p

Dushan
20th Mar 2008, 12:21
As long as you ignore the people on the ground who you can't see. You know, the ones being killed or maimed.

You probably cannot see them because they are busy rounding up other people into cattle cars and sending them to concentration camps.

good spark
20th Mar 2008, 12:48
nose first
brilliant pics, keep em coming and sod the pc brigade

Ken Wells
20th Mar 2008, 12:50
Aircraft art links


http://www.britishlandscapefineart.com/html/gerald_coulson_.html

http://www.collectorsprints.co.uk/item_closeup.php?itemid=90http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg224/kenwells_photo/battle_of_britain.jpg

The SSK
20th Mar 2008, 12:55
I have a signed, limited-edition lithograph of an ATP.

forget
20th Mar 2008, 13:51
...... And at the other end of the 'Art' scale. :ok: Well it is art.:)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/novel.jpg

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU
20th Mar 2008, 17:00
I have a signed, limited-edition lithograph of an ATP.

You clearly have as much luck with raffles as I do.

tony draper
20th Mar 2008, 17:11
I recall watching the bloke responsible for most of the cover art on airfix boxes being interviewed and he had indeed been ordered to tone down his depictions of war machines in battle lest he upset the fluffists.
**** em ! say I
:suspect:

GPMG
20th Mar 2008, 17:25
You know, the ones being killed or maimed.

Nobber.


Anyone got any pics of Lancs over Dresden?

Maufe
20th Mar 2008, 17:26
No doubt the second picture has been toned down, I expect it originally had a bubble coming from the cockpit of the FW which shows the pilot shouting "Ach, Gott in Himmel" or such like as he plunged to his death.

Least that's what used to happen in the drawings in the 'Lion' comic in the '50's.

Maufe
20th Mar 2008, 17:35
Anyone got any pics of Lancs over Dresden?

Anyone got any pics of the locals disposing of the 135,000 (disputed I know) bodies resulting from their visits?

tony draper
20th Mar 2008, 17:38
Well those comics were aimed at children,what he was probably shouting was "Focking Scheisse"!!!
:rolleyes:
Disposing of 135,000 bodies? small potatoes to the folks across there at that time.

GPMG
20th Mar 2008, 17:44
Frickin Care Bear, it was war, they lost.

People die in wars Maufe, doesnt matter if it's a bullet or flames or crushing, they still die. I suppose that if Bomber Command had dropped feathers to suffocate Dresden that it would have been fine with you would it?

Bomber Command are unrewarded for helping to shorten the war by years, what a shame that whinging apologists have robbed them and Bomber Harris of their rightfull place in history.


Oh and the guy in the FW is saying " Aiiieeeeeeee Spitfure!"

Maufe
20th Mar 2008, 17:44
Expect you are right, Mr Draper. Only difference with the painting to drawings in the Lion is that it is exactly the same but aimed at adults not children.

How big a body count makes up large potatoes?

PaperTiger
20th Mar 2008, 17:49
Used to love browsing the Airfix kits and whatnot in the shops when I was a kid, because the boxes usually had artwork of a fierce battle scene on the front.Like the one of the Trident battling gravity ? :ouch:

PaperTiger
20th Mar 2008, 17:51
Anyone got any pics of the locals disposing of the 135,000 (disputed I know) bodies resulting from their visits?Bodies ? What bodies ? Ah, you probably meant the ashes - all blew away.

Maufe
20th Mar 2008, 17:58
Mr GMPG, I am only expressing my personal opinion that pictures of soldiers/airman/sailors in the act of killing are not the glorious sight that some people seem to think they are.

I have made absolutely no comment on the rights or wrongs of the actions of bomber command in WW2 as other than a normal, thinking human being I am not qualified to do so.

Rather tasteless Paper Tiger but in keeping with your name.

PaperTiger
20th Mar 2008, 18:12
Rather tasteless Paper Tiger but in keeping with your name.You started it.

Yes you did, you invaded Poland.

Evening Star
20th Mar 2008, 20:46
Used to love browsing the Airfix kits and whatnot in the shops when I was a kid, because the boxes usually had artwork of a fierce battle scene on the front.

Then it all seemed to suddenly get toned-down. :suspect:

Here you go: Airfix Packaging (http://pws.prserv.net/gbinet.dbjames/types.htm). (And yes, I use to droll at the selection with the latest pocket money in my sweaty paw.)

tinpis
21st Mar 2008, 00:01
:rolleyes:


http://www.migproductions.co.uk/catalog/images/Products/AIR03178.jpg

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU
21st Mar 2008, 13:50
Like the one of the Trident battling gravity ? :ouch:

Like this one?


http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o182/GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU_photos/2D5.jpg

Dan D'air
21st Mar 2008, 14:00
Oh and the guy in the FW is saying " Aiiieeeeeeee Spitfure!"

Au contraire GPMG, I think you will find that he is in fact saying "Achtung Spitfeur", closely followed by "Gott in Himmel". Clearly you have forgotten your basic schoolboy Commando-comic German. "Aiiieeeeeee" was what the Japs said as Union Jack Jackson despatched them off to Buddha.

Flying Binghi
21st Mar 2008, 14:09
I guess if it wasnt for the actions of certain parties there never would have been the 'subjects' for so much war art.

Lon More
21st Mar 2008, 14:14
http://www.gava.org.uk/images/large/2007/14.jpg

Check out The Guild of Aviation Artists (http://www.gava.org.uk/index.cfm?page=home) galleries for many more



Maufe read the disclaimer at the top of this Forum; chill out with a beer and then go look at some of the photos of Air Ambulances in action over on the rotary forum.

Remember, it was the acrions depicted in the above paintings that ensure your rights to free speach.

Double Zero
25th Mar 2008, 00:42
I once saw a VERY good painting of ' 50 years at Wittering ' or similar title, depicting a Hurricane taking off and a Harrier GR5 with it.

It was really well executed as I say, going for around 175 a print ( years ago) - only slight snag was the GR5 still had the yellow caps on the Sidewinders !

Presumably the artist had studied his subject on the ground...

Sometimes wondered if anyone bought one for 1 Sqn Mess for a laugh !


Maufe,

I have to say, if you want to know what number counts as ' big potatos ', well, about 6 million for a start...

tony draper
25th Mar 2008, 01:04
Well yer wouldn't want one our chaps inadvertently shooting down a Hurricane would yer?
Missiles prolly didn't have any gunpowder in em anyway,one can't be to careful.
:rolleyes:

Arm out the window
25th Mar 2008, 03:52
It should probably be noted that the aircraft in the first two prints which sparked off the 'necessity of warfare vs. human suffering' debate are fighters and probably haven't killed any innocent civilians (on the day portrayed in the pictures anyway) and would more likely have been engaged in trying to knock eachother out of the sky in chivalrous knight of the air fashion ... or possibly take eachother out sneakily if that option was available.

Fg Off Max Stout
25th Mar 2008, 06:18
Maufe, I hereby invited you to start a thread in the Military forum in which you can discuss the evils of military pilots and the immorality of air warfare. Meanwhile, if you object so much to paintings by talented artists depicting magnificent aircraft in historically important situations, then the freedoms hard won by allied military forces include your rights to bite your tongue, shove your keyboard finger back up your arse and poke off. Carry on, in any order you wish. Good day.