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Almost_done
18th Mar 2008, 18:17
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Today marks the end of my time in the RAF; it has been a rollercoaster of a 'career'. I go on now to the great and good work within the Civil Aviation world.

Online and in life I know we may not all have agreed with one another but I wish all of you well and I hope that if you end up in a sandy dry place you al return with the correct number of body parts you went out with.

It is true that after a certain period of time in the RAF you can leave, but surprisingly you keep a large part of it with you.

I have had a good time serving with you all, but I became jaded with the forced changes and the visible lack of spine in the upper management, I tried to fight the good fight in my own way but I was always put back down with other threats.

Still I will follow with interest the fate of the best Air Force in the world, best maybe not with kit but with spirit definitely. To all on SH good luck god speed you home to all on seized wing the same.

Almost_Done listening out

Random Bloke
18th Mar 2008, 18:32
The very best of luck to you.:D

Tourist
18th Mar 2008, 18:47
who are you?

Almost_done
18th Mar 2008, 19:03
who are you?

Someone, who for the last 23 years has had the pleasure of ensuring you rotate and return safe and sound with only the worry of the seat stick interface failing.

Any further questions?

Who are you?

Al R
18th Mar 2008, 19:17
:D

Good luck AD, all the best for the future.

Jackonicko
18th Mar 2008, 19:21
Good luck indeed, AD. Here's hoping that you like the grass on the new side of the fence. Very best wishes and thanks for serving us taxpayers - ingrates as we may be!

N Joe
18th Mar 2008, 19:35
AD

You may think you're out but you've got a long way to go yet. From my experience, having left last year and now working in a part-military organisation:

1. You'll keep getting JPA pay-chits (zero balance) for months.
2. You'll struggle to hold a conversation without referring to when you were in the RAF.
3. You might be just about able to avoid saying "When I was in", but refer to 2. above.
4. You'll grow your hair, and possibly a beard, but will then return to a QR-compliant appearance because you just feel scruffy.
5. If you go anywhere near an RAF camp, you will re-acquire your rank whether you like it or not. The guardroom and mess databases just can't cope with "Sqn Ldr Joe" becoming "Mr Joe".
6. It will be some time before the majority of your friends are not RAF.
7. In military company, you will be introduced, there will be an awkward pause, and then the person that introduced you will say "He used to be ........"
8. .......... And then someone will ask you what it's like being out.....
9. And I still can't really answer that. I've been out for less than one tour's-length so I still feel like I'm waiting for a tour-review date.
10. And I don't think you'll ever stop cursing "Bloody Civvies!"

N Joe

Jobza Guddun
18th Mar 2008, 20:01
Best of luck to you, hope you get the same enjoyment from your new career as the good bits of your old one.

Alison Conway
18th Mar 2008, 20:07
A-D,:D

Well Done. Hold on to your memories, the one thing that "they" cannot take from you. You were trained by the best, hopefully gave of your best, and are now taking those skills to apply elsewhere. I hope that you pass on your experience to another generation; there's a great role model in what Israeli part civvy/ part military aircrew do. I've trained them (not that many of them needed training) and they're good - very good. This sceptred isle could do worse than allowing military experience such as yours to just "fade away". What price an active reserve? It is easy, as suggested, to be always looking backwards. It's a trap that will ensure you become a boring fart (old or otherwise). One of the pleasant part of being a bloody civvy is that you don't have to keep wondering whether some chinless wonder outranks you! Stand Tall A-D, you did your bit - there are those who will keep the torch held high for a little while longer. The depressing part is watching those who are the senior military political appointees mouth the platitudes that they are told to in return for an extra badge, and the speed at which they are silenced or "corrected" should they develop a mind of their own. Or am I becoming too cynical? Bah! Humbug!

bayete
18th Mar 2008, 20:41
Some things don't seem to change..
Been out since Oct new job since Nov and much like when I started in the RAF I am racing towards my 5000Hrs holding badge. This time it will have the number of test matches watched rather than cups of coffee made on it.:)

BEagle
18th Mar 2008, 21:57
Bumped into an ex-mob colleague today. He still keeps in touch by flying Space Cadets at weekends.

"Do you miss the RAF?", I asked.

"I miss what it was", he said, "but not what it is now!"

A view shared by so, so many.

Good luck, Almost_done! Don't feel guilty when your new employer asks you to do something, rather than telling you what you are going to do!

samuraimatt
18th Mar 2008, 22:03
who are you?

Who indeed. Why would you want to come onto this forum and say goodbye? Many people leave the armed forces every year, so what makes you so special? Were you expecting a leaving present?;)

ATCO Fred
18th Mar 2008, 22:54
AD

You may think you're out but you've got a long way to go yet. From my experience, having left last year and now working in a part-military organisation:

1. You'll keep getting JPA pay-chits (zero balance) for months.
2. You'll struggle to hold a conversation without referring to when you were in the RAF.
3. You might be just about able to avoid saying "When I was in", but refer to 2. above.
4. You'll grow your hair, and possibly a beard, but will then return to a QR-compliant appearance because you just feel scruffy.
5. If you go anywhere near an RAF camp, you will re-acquire your rank whether you like it or not. The guardroom and mess databases just can't cope with "Sqn Ldr Joe" becoming "Mr Joe".
6. It will be some time before the majority of your friends are not RAF.
7. In military company, you will be introduced, there will be an awkward pause, and then the person that introduced you will say "He used to be ........"
8. .......... And then someone will ask you what it's like being out.....
9. And I still can't really answer that. I've been out for less than one tour's-length so I still feel like I'm waiting for a tour-review date.
10. And I don't think you'll ever stop cursing "Bloody Civvies!"

N Joe

Funny as ****:ok:

left a year ago and have to say items 1 - 10 are absolutely true.....except that no stamp is on the JPA 'Zero' pay statements - you have to pay £1.24 for the privilege!!:mad:

Best wishes AD!

unclenelli
18th Mar 2008, 23:11
If you've never been within 50' of a turboprop, Yellowbelly or Jockistan in the last few months, pop into Ops on Wed/Thu/Fri Night to say goodbye to your Jetplanners, whoever you are.

rudekid
19th Mar 2008, 00:58
Beagle

Just a POV, but as an ex mil colleague, he doesn't know what it IS now.

Sorry, flying on a air experience flight doesn't equate to the reality of what the operational units are doing. No, really...

Hopefully, I'm on your ignore list by now, but for a man who left the RAF some time ago, you do continue to spend an awful lot of time on a military forum.

AD

I'm pleased you enjoyed your career. All the very best.

RK

Ogre
19th Mar 2008, 01:53
The week before I left I was presented with a small piece of paper by my Chief at the time. It said "Why is sex like leaving the military? The closer to discharge the more excited you get..."

Congratulations mate, and even though we've probably never met or interacted I'd like to thank you for the years of service you did.

Now you need to work out how long it'll be before you start a sentance "When I was in the RAF..."

Ogre

Echo 5
19th Mar 2008, 19:19
Almost done,

From someone who has just retired for the second time, well done and all the best. Keep busy.

BTW..............Samuraipratt, you are a total arrse:8

Pontius Navigator
19th Mar 2008, 21:37
Makes mental note to self:

Must use the arse block button more.

glad rag
19th Mar 2008, 21:51
Almost done,

Good luck good health etc.

BTW..............Samuraipratt, you are a total arrse:8

+1

Captain Kirk
19th Mar 2008, 22:17
Good luck AD, thank you for sharing such a significant moment with your professional, albeit online, colleagues. It is evident that the core of the PPRuNe ‘community’ appreciate your post and I would like to add my own humble thanks for your years of service and wish you all the every best – be sure to keep us apprised of your new path.

SamPratt – you lack both AD’s credibility and his record of service; if you have nothing but tedious cynicism to offer, be a good chap and keep it to yourself.

buoy15
19th Mar 2008, 22:29
Almost Done
I'm intrigued?
You signed off - 'listening out'
That indicates to me you were employed in Comms - does that mean you were in ComCen or Air Tragic for umpty years as an SAC or better and never progressed?
If this is not the case, I would be fascinated to hear about your 'rollercoaster' career - would that be tours in Singapore - Malta - USA - Spec Ops - Linguist - 51Sqn - or just getting up and down in your bunk in the singley block everyday? - We need to know:hmm:

cargosales
20th Mar 2008, 01:39
BTW..............Samuraipratt, you are a total arrse:8


The beauty of the ignore feature here is that one doesn't have to read the comments of people like that.

I take it he was posting like a twunt as usual but as I can't see his comments I really don't care :)

Good luck AD. Enjoy the future, whatever it may bring!

ArthurR
20th Mar 2008, 07:58
Good Luck AD, I've been out over 30 years now, but you never forget the times in the mob, mainly the good and fun times, and of course your service number. Use mine as a password now. :ok:

Pontius Navigator
20th Mar 2008, 08:07
service number. Use mine as a password now. :ok:

Who doesn't :)

ASMA - password 8 characters one of whch must be a letter or a number. It was either deliberate or the plods never saw it coming:

1234567A

and after 6 months

A1234567

and then

1234567A

brilliant.

Enjoy AD, its just as chaotic in a grey suit. Yesterday Team B arrived moments before Team A. Unannounced Team B was to commission test the new IT system. And Team A was to take it down for repair. :}

Echo 5
20th Mar 2008, 08:12
cargosales,

Post #12 read

Quote:
who are you?

Who indeed. Why would you want to come onto this forum and say goodbye? Many people leave the armed forces every year, so what makes you so special? Were you expecting a leaving present?

Better check it quick before it gets deleted which is another of Samuraipratts puerile tricks.

Judge Rembrandt
20th Mar 2008, 12:50
AD
I don’t often post but wish you all the very best for your new start mate. Let us know how it goes. After 31 years I’m still enjoying life in the RAF - for the most part - but looking forward to doing something different when the time comes.
Cheers, JR :)


Samuraimatt - or is it AIDU? - Hard to differentiate.

Who are you? t:mad:t

Who indeed. Why would you want to come onto this forum and continue to post mean, $h*tty comments at every opportunity? You must be a real joy to have as part of a team or crew – although the tone and abrasive nature you adopt on this Forum suggests you are a frustrated, failed wannabe with a large chip on your shoulder. Like many others…… ‘IGNORE’ – SELECT.
You are the weakest link, goodbye!

The Monkey Bus
20th Mar 2008, 14:13
AD

You may think you're out but you've got a long way to go yet. From my experience, having left last year and now working in a part-military organisation:

1. You'll keep getting JPA pay-chits (zero balance) for months.
2. You'll struggle to hold a conversation without referring to when you were in the RAF.
3. You might be just about able to avoid saying "When I was in", but refer to 2. above.
4. You'll grow your hair, and possibly a beard, but will then return to a QR-compliant appearance because you just feel scruffy.
5. If you go anywhere near an RAF camp, you will re-acquire your rank whether you like it or not. The guardroom and mess databases just can't cope with "Sqn Ldr Joe" becoming "Mr Joe".
6. It will be some time before the majority of your friends are not RAF.
7. In military company, you will be introduced, there will be an awkward pause, and then the person that introduced you will say "He used to be ........"
8. .......... And then someone will ask you what it's like being out.....
9. And I still can't really answer that. I've been out for less than one tour's-length so I still feel like I'm waiting for a tour-review date.
10. And I don't think you'll ever stop cursing "Bloody Civvies!"

N Joe


:D I've been out for 9 years and I agree with all of that, well apart from the bit about growing a beard cos I'm a bird and despite my best efforts I've never been able to grow a single whisker, my Gran on the other hand, blimey that woman should have been in the circus. Oh also because I'm a bird the question I always get asked is "did I have a gun?" You can have so much fun with that question! Just depends how much you want to scare someone ;)

Good look to you AD, I hope you have a happy transition to civvie life. It wasn't until after I left that I realised there are things that I'll never do again but then I also remembered that I actually got to do them in the first place.

Best wishes for the future matey :ok:

Monkey

Tigs2
20th Mar 2008, 14:25
Samurai

That was a prattish thing to say. I don't know about anyone else but I also found Buoy15s comments rather offensive. or have i just had a sense of humour failure?

AD well done, thanks for your time and service. Enjoy civvie street:ok:

Tourist
20th Mar 2008, 15:33
This thread obviously splits opinion.

Personally I find it painfully sad, that after a long career in the RAF, Almost_Done feels he has to come on a anonymouse forum to get some kind of personal validation for his life.
His mates are the people who should be dining him out, and making him feel valued, and coming on here seems desperately lonely.

It's a bit like walking into a hangar full of 20000 people you don't know and saying "I'm off now" and expecting applause!?

Can you imagine if the hundreds of people in the flying branches of the military who leave the service every day came on here to say bye?:yuk:

I once heard the quote that "apart from the memories of friends, the impression you leave behind when you leave the military is the same as the space left behind when you remove your hand from a bucket of water" and I think that is pretty close to the truth.

If Almost_Done thinks he deserves special attention, then tell us why.
I ask again, who are you?

samuraimatt
20th Mar 2008, 15:56
Having read almost dones farewell speech I find it a bit strange why he would say........

you al return with the correct number of body parts you went out with.


Why would you say such a thing? What have you to say to all those that haven't returned with the correct number of body parts? "Oh bad luck, at least you are still alive and they do great prosthetics now"

Tourist, perhaps he feels let down by his departure and feels that he will receive more admiration from his pals on this forum. He did PVR after all, so he only has himself to blame for his departure.

The Dodger
20th Mar 2008, 16:24
Good luck AD, hope it goes well for you in the future. Unlike some people here. Tourist, your a p**t. Alot of folks have posted here to wish AD all the best. Unlike you, who seems to think that his service counts for nothing. Anyone who has served for thier country past or present deserves recognition in some form or another. I for one am glad to wish him well, whatever job he has done in the RAF. Your attitude stinks. If you can't wish people the best for the future than don't bother posting at all.:mad:

C130 Techie
20th Mar 2008, 16:31
Personally I find it painfully sad, that after a long career in the RAF, Almost_Done feels he has to come on a anonymouse forum to get some kind of personal validation for his life.

Personally I find it very sad that you can't just indulge someone who has probably made a significant contribution to the RAF over the years he has done and bring yourself to at least wish him well for the future.

Opinion on this thread may be split but it's a very uneven split and you and your buddy Samuraipratt are in the minority.

You can both have the satisfaction of being added to another ignore list. Enjoy!

Sorry almost forgot. All the best for the future A_D

The Dodger
20th Mar 2008, 18:37
I dont post on this part of PPRuNE all that often, even though I am ex RAF myself. However I feel that it's unfair for me to criticise Tourist, when samurimatt is just as guilty here. I don't usually come out with a shotgun aimed at folks, however you two are getting it with both barrels. Samuri, you are as just as much a P**t as Tourist is. Your last post I found was frankly insulting and I question if you are mature enough to recognise that. I don't know how long you have been in the Airforce but from your comments, It does not look that long to me. Do yourself a favour and grow up, before you decide to post anything else here.:mad:

Dr. Eg
20th Mar 2008, 18:44
Good luck, me old.

Tocsin
20th Mar 2008, 18:57
A_D - all the best!

And this thread has prompted me to add my first two "persons" to my Ignore list.

Possibly we could ask the Mods - can we have a refined version of some other boards "Oxygen Thief" labels?

SRENNAPS
20th Mar 2008, 19:00
AD
Good luck, and I wish you the very best for the future.

I suspect you may have been involved with the SH world and for that you deserve a pat on the back. They are a great bunch of hard working and loyal chaps and lasses. Our paths may have crossed during my short, but most enjoyable, involvement with SH several years ago.

As for the usual insulting comments you find here, ignore them. They are made by a sad bunch, that don’t seem to enjoy themselves while serving in the mob and I doubt they would enjoy themselves once they are out of the mob.

The one good thing for certain is that when these sad individuals leave, they will not be able to look back with pride and honour and remember the great times they had and the great mates they made, as people like you and I and several others can.

All the best.

Truck2005
20th Mar 2008, 19:12
I left 9 years ago from the BZN fleet. A couple of years later a flight test crew arrived, most of which I knew. One member was a master when I knew him but was now a Sqn Ldr. Out of the mob now, but still thinking RAF I called him 'Sir'! When he told me not to be so regimented I began to talk on a more friendly basis. My, Totally MOD, bosses did their nut :=

They could not understand the 'crew' mentality. I was a GE and do miss that relationship but I am lucky, I still meet some of my ex-crewmates.

Hope everything goes well, whatever your next career is but cherish the times when you were in.

Pontius Navigator
20th Mar 2008, 19:14
Certainly AIDU is the only other person I have felt the need to block. AIDU is on reprieve at the moment :E

Seldomfitforpurpose
20th Mar 2008, 19:19
PN,

I should probably be offended by that post...................but your "handle explains it away :rolleyes:

Almost_done
20th Mar 2008, 21:31
I just wanted to say goodbye, goodluck and that I will always think of those 'still in'. Thank you to all that understood my intent and reciprocated with kind words.

To the others oh well..........

samuraimatt
20th Mar 2008, 21:37
Seldom said

I should probably be offended by that post.OMG Seldom is ABIW............:eek: Welcome back to the fold seldom.

SRENNAPS
20th Mar 2008, 21:39
To the others oh well..........

You summed it up mate.

Good luck.

Echo 5
20th Mar 2008, 21:57
Seldomfit,

Despite the "fatherly advice" that you offered some time ago it would appear it fell on deaf ears and the Samuraipratt is still just a silly sprog ( not to mention being a total arrse).:ugh:

cargosales
21st Mar 2008, 01:32
I just wanted to say goodbye, goodluck and that I will always think of those 'still in'. Thank you to all that understood my intent and reciprocated with kind words.

To the others oh well..........

A_D, there are a great many here who share your sentiments and wish you well :)

To Samuraipratt, Tourist and your ilk: Even though I have you 'on Ignore'; and cannot see your undoubtedly pathetic comments, please do us all a favour and stop stealing oxygen from those more deserving than your miserable selves :ugh:

CS

pipistrelle
21st Mar 2008, 03:17
NJOE, sadly all so funnily true but lots of us have made the transition to the dark side and are kept going by our constant reminders of where we came from, a reality check if you like. Great to see that the sense of humour learned at many squadron/section barrels still lives.

Pontius Navigator
21st Mar 2008, 07:28
SFFP, ? :)

Cargo,

I am not sure but Tourist's post may have been abrupt and crass but not necessarily deliberately rude. As for Matt, what you don't see you don't know:}

TANTALLON
21st Mar 2008, 08:56
N Joe

Brilliant post and having been out for 12 months I can see and feel the experiences apart from:

"5. If you go anywhere near an RAF camp, you will re-acquire your rank whether you like it or not. The guardroom and mess databases just can't cope with "Sqn Ldr Joe" becoming "Mr Joe"."

I try not going to visit an RAF base because, after over 30 years service, I resent having to queue up for a visitor's pass.

Al R
21st Mar 2008, 11:35
Whenever I used to clear someone who was retiring (I did 2.5 years on GDT.. call it what you will), the reactions were mixed. Banter at not having to be gassed anymore, no more 'guns' to clean, no more 'gas masks' to wear, assurances that any DPM in the loft was going to be burned, but usually, nearly always.. a thank you. Especially if the person had got some serious time in. Even if I hadn't known the person retiring and hadn't ever taught them, I was thanked not because of what I had done, but because of what I represented. Not a Regt dullard, not someone who enjoyed making people's lives misery, but part of the team who like them, was simply paid for doing his bit to keep it all going. I get slagged off for having been just a Rock, and it makes you wonder what those people also think of the chefs who made their breakfasts, the guys stagging on at the gate in the rain at 0230 who kept their families safe and the MT drivers who shuffled around on endless non glamourous jobs.

Here, we have got someone who has done his bit, and who wants to say farewell and thanks. Its like putting an announcement in The Times, its like a farewell speech at a leaving piss up. Its closure, its a rite of passage, its part of the process and its usually someone's way of affirming some sort of belief in the system despite having been shafted by parts of it and one that he spent a huge chunk of his life subscribed to.

But what really saddens me, is that we see in this thread the electronic versions of the hecklers at those leaving beer calls, those who are unable to allow someone (usually senior) the chance to take one last look around, shake a few hands, turn the lights out and quietly close the door behind them. I feel so sorry for A_d that his last act possibly could be even threatened with being marred by this type of civilian style, loutish electronic vandalism. In my experience, those who use messageboards to vent their spleens at people who they don't even know (the heat of passionate debate excluded) are usually the ones frustrated or transferring something missing in their own lives. The adage, in these circumstances that if you have nothing decent to say, say nothing at all, should be a reminder how common decency, good form and polite manners should be observed. If you can't raise your game fellas, then steer clear.

Finally, civvy street is great A_d. Far more volatile, but that simply means you have far greater control over the risk and rewards that you want out of life.

It's Not Working
21st Mar 2008, 12:32
Good Lord Al, it almost pains me to say it but I think you've hit the nail firmly on the head with those few, well chosen, words. Well said.

A_d - good luck and thanks.

Echo 5
21st Mar 2008, 12:56
Al R,

That is one of the best posts that I have read in a long time. Covered everything very nicely I would say.Very well said.:)

ATCO Fred
21st Mar 2008, 14:17
Here, we have got someone who has done his bit, and who wants to say farewell and thanks. Its like putting an announcement in The Times, its like a farewell speech at a leaving piss up. Its closure, its a rite of passage, its part of the process and its usually someone's way of affirming some sort of belief in the system despite having been shafted by parts of it and one that he spent a huge chunk of his life subscribed to.


Beautifully put and absolutely 100% spot on. The fact that those leaving feel the need to undertake such a "right of passage" is testament to the strong bonds and camaraderie that builds through the many varied, weird and down right dangerous experiences that we have shared. What makes it all the sadder is (ignoring for a moment the petulant fools who have posted derogatory comments) that the system just doesn't recognise/care or is even aware of the finely tuned personality traits that are about to leave, traits finely honed from a service that was far better at mentoring then than it is now! No it is not alright because we can replace them with a new recruit! They might be the best pilot/supplier/adminer in the world but it'll be many more years before they actually ADD VALUE to those that work around/with them.

Fred - finally coming to terms with being a TOG and proud of it!!

BYALPHAINDIA
21st Mar 2008, 19:59
QUOTE
Personally I find it very sad that you can't just indulge someone who has probably made a significant contribution to the RAF over the years he has done and bring yourself to at least wish him well for the future.

Opinion on this thread may be split but it's a very uneven split and you and your buddy Samuraipratt are in the minority.

BYALPHAINDIA REPLY
I always thought 'Samurai Swordsmen' were always Pratts':rolleyes::hmm:

Why use a sword when you can use the fist you are born with:}:cool:

samuraimatt
21st Mar 2008, 20:26
That is one of the best posts that I have read in a long time.

Being a mover I find it very hard to believe you can actually read and if a post by Al R is the best thing that you have read in a while then I suggest you get to the library a bit more. If you are unsure where your local one is just ask somebody for directions to the building with the books in it. I don't mean Waterstones or WH Smith either.

Here, we have got someone who has done his bit, and who wants to say farewell and thanks. Its like putting an announcement in The Times, its like a farewell speech at a leaving piss up. Its closure, its a rite of passage, its part of the process and its usually someone's way of affirming some sort of belief in the system despite having been shafted by parts of it and one that he spent a huge chunk of his life subscribed to.

Can anybody smell anything?:ok:

Tourist
21st Mar 2008, 20:46
Wow, what a lot of venom!:eek:

I think perhaps I should have one last go at stating my point of view and clear up a couple of points.

1. I do not begrudge anyone their leaving call. It is quite correct that everyone who knows, or knows of the leaver gathers round and gives them a pat on the back and sends them off with a warm glow. I would do the same for my mates, and expect them to do it for me

That is not what is happening here. This is more akin to the outpourings of grief after Diana’s death.

No in fact it’s worse.

At least the people weeping inconsolably at her funeral had been looking at pictures of her on the telly for years, following her in the press etc and had some investment in a relationship with her, no matter how warped and one sided.

In this case nobody has any idea whatsoever who he is! He might be a great bloke, he probably is, (I have to admit that he has been very gentlemanly about the whole thing) but some of the eulogising on here is ridiculous.

“Personally I find it very sad that you can't just indulge someone who has probably made a significant contribution to the RAF over the years he has done and bring yourself to at least wish him well for the future.”

Bit of a leap of faith there I think:hmm:

“The one good thing for certain is that when these sad individuals leave, they will not be able to look back with pride and honour and remember the great times they had and the great mates they made, as people like you and I and several others can.”

Do you know him, or not? Or just projecting your hopes? If you do know him then tell us how good a mate he is.:ugh:

“the system just doesn't recognise/care or is even aware of the finely tuned personality traits that are about to leave, traits finely honed from a service that was far better at mentoring then than it is now!”

What? A strong shout based upon just his posts on the forum.:confused:


If you say this guff about anonymous people it totally devalues the honest statements you might make about people you actually know. Or have heard good reports of. Or at least saw across a bar once for god’s sake!:ugh:

For all you know, (and I do not suggest this is the case, before I get flamed again, just wish to raise the possibility inherent in an anonymous forum) there is a sqn breathing a sigh of relief right now and celebrating the departure of a waste of rations carried down the decades. We all know one; in fact many on here seem to think I’m one!:bored:


For the mate of somebody leaving to post such a thread points to a great bloke, but to post about yourself is a bit like writing your own citation. Do you want everybody who leaves the Military to get their own thread thus flooding the forum in facsimile insincere turgidness? And if not, what makes this bloke special?

2. I ventured over to Egoat after being informed by PM that I was getting a slagging there. I get the impression that they think I was having a go because I did not think that non-aircrew were worthy of eulogy. Wrong end of the stick I’m afraid, just don’t happen to believe anybody is worthy of blind worship.

3. Obviously I am devastated to be “ignored” by so many, how will I cope?:rolleyes:
Having never “ignored” anybody, I do wonder though if the only thing worse than having to read the words of somebody who makes you want to start swinging, is having to see one sided conversations involving them?

ShyTorque
21st Mar 2008, 21:08
To those posting their negative, vitriolic posts here:

Thanks for reminding me why I left. :rolleyes:

A_D, looks like you made the correct decision if some of this miserable bunch are anything to go by. Well done, thanks, good luck and welcome to the outside world. :)

Echo 5
21st Mar 2008, 21:11
samuraipratt,

Did mummy put a little extra " something " in your hot milk tonight ? :8

ATCO Fred
21st Mar 2008, 22:29
Oi tourettes

“the system just doesn't recognise/care or is even aware of the finely tuned personality traits that are about to leave, traits finely honed from a service that was far better at mentoring then than it is now!”

What? A strong shout based upon just his posts on the forum.


Sorry - thought it was obvious I was being generic.

That is not what is happening here. This is more akin to the outpourings of grief after Diana’s death.


Oh god! Hope you enjoyed tonights Corrie!

Please feel free to QSY anytime soon!

Two's in
21st Mar 2008, 22:58
Sadly, Al R has it nailed with his;

electronic versions of the heckler

This forum is just like real life - despite the majority of witty, intellectual and talented colleagues who made service life the fun it was, we all remember those others who were (luckily) in the minority. You know them;

1. Always late/shoddy for Parades.
2. Never have the right kit.
3. Always scrounging.
4. Rip the Mess for piss-poor standards but never even been on a committee, let alone PMC.
5. Critical of everything but create nothing.
6. Always time for a snide comment.
7. Scrutinising the promotions list to say "how the hell did X..." knowing they will seldom be on it.
8. Shop Steward attitude to unsocial work - especially on Ops.
9. Short arms and deep pockets at the bar.
10. The last one to get "it" on any kind of formal instructional course.

No reason why you wouldn't encounter that behaviour on this forum, after all logging on is easier than finding a tie and going down to the Bar to criticize.

So good luck to you Almost Done, mind the ankle biters on the way out.

Whirlygig
21st Mar 2008, 23:00
I think certain people on this forum have failed to grasp that it is not as anonymous as they think. There are people here who actually know each in real life; that's REAL life, not just a virtual life.

All the best Almost Done!

Cheers

Whirls

bravolima80
21st Mar 2008, 23:09
AD. Good luck on the outside. If you look back on the times that you enjoyed, and the good people you met, then the negative times fade. I have been out for over forty years but still meet my old crew from the 50's. You will always be part of the family:O

BYALPHAINDIA
22nd Mar 2008, 01:59
QUOTE
I think certain people on this forum have failed to grasp that it is not as anonymous as they think. There are people here who actually know each in real life; that's REAL life, not just a virtual life.

REPLY BYALPHAINDIA
True, This forum is better than watching TV, The Aviation community is a small one, And on here you are always bumping into old friends, I suppose that's what makes it tick.:D

Wheras the likes of Nobenders, Emmaroyd Farm, etc are just a complete pathetic waste of time, And are non productive to our lives whatsoever
:hmm::rolleyes::bored: