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Krystal n chips
10th Mar 2008, 18:56
Erm, well as one who is destined never to wear angels wings....due to having fallen from grace as a participant....willing !......in the last two of the mortal sins mentioned in paragraph 4 below....then the rest of the 21st century upgrade isn't going to apply to me anyway....however....I do like the rather ironic..:rolleyes:comment about, er, "excessive accumulation of wealth by a few".....I assume Rome has a exclusion clause built in for it's members then? :p:E

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3517050.ece

airship
11th Mar 2008, 15:20
Surely after 2,000 odd years, the Holy See must appreciate by now that if we're going "to go forth and multiply" (as per original instructions), a certain amount of murder, abortion, perjury, adultery and lust will be involved in the accomplishment? I'm not sure how many fold we've multiplied since those early days but I'd certainly appreciate knowing at what point (7 billion, 10, 20?) the original goal will be attained. Because I get the feeling that we're so many today, that there is a very real risk that the Almighty might start considering human-beings to be the new "lowly" creatures, replacing rats and hedgehogs amongst others. Who knows, maybe He will return as a Bengal tiger next time, sacrificing His pudicat to Chinese medicine for the sake of us all?

And yes, I'd tend to agree with the observation that the Holy See is in transgression of at least one of the newer mortal sins: being a member of the obscenely rich. Maybe they could sell the Vatican and delocalise...or would the Almighty fail to find their new offshore base, wherever that would be?! :confused:

BlueDiamond
11th Mar 2008, 16:07
Well, there used to be seven (lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy and pride) but the Catholic Church in its wisdom has seen fit to increase the list in order to reflect "a social resonance and show worshippers that their vices affected other people."

According to The Times newspaper report, the new deadly sins that may lead to eternal damnation are:
Polluting
Genetic Engineering
Being obscenely rich
Drug dealing
Abortion
Paedophilia
Causing social injustice.

Look again at number three on that list ... being obscenely rich. To say that this is a Cardinal Sin has to be the most overwhelmingly hypocritical stance ever adopted by an institution already noted for double standards and duplicity. The accumulation of wealth beyond imagining has been the single-minded pursuit of the Catholic Church since its inception and it has become so good at this that its collective assets have become so formidable as to defy any rational assessment. Its hoard of gold alone amounts to many billions of dollars and that is only a small part of its total assets.

Monumental, staggering hypocrisy.

Binoculars
11th Mar 2008, 16:13
Err, can we have a reference for this unlikely sounding story please, Bluey?

TractorBoy
11th Mar 2008, 16:19
I'm afraid it's all too real !!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7287071.stm

Sailor Vee
11th Mar 2008, 16:24
Try this (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/03/10/eavatican110.xml&CMP=ILC-mostviewedbox), Binos, it's the telegraph and not the times, ( a better quality broadsheet! :O)

Binoculars
11th Mar 2008, 16:24
Ah, I see. Not so much a replacement of the deadly sins as suggested but additions to the long list of things the Catholic Church finds to be against its unique values. More of the same in other words.

Praise da Lawd!

Krystal n chips
11th Mar 2008, 16:26
:=:)

Erm, here's one we did earlier.

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=317443

BlueDiamond
11th Mar 2008, 16:35
My apologies, krystal ... I did do a search but obviously not by using the right words. Perhaps a mod could do a merge?

JustaFew
11th Mar 2008, 16:38
No birth control = more people = larger congregation = greater income.
Vicious circle. 'Obscenely rich'...?

Lasiorhinus
11th Mar 2008, 16:42
So if the church considers being obscenely rich to be a mortal sin, and the church is obscenely rich.....:confused:

flowman
11th Mar 2008, 17:06
Give them some credit, they are not entirely hypocritical-paedophilia is on the list.
I would have thought having a dozen children is not entirely socially responsible in this day and age but that one has been omitted.
How about knowingly spreading deadly sexually transmitted diseases?
What's obscenely rich anyway? Half a million? 20 million? 20 quid?
I suppose if you give the lot to the church all will be forgiven.

Krystal n chips
11th Mar 2008, 18:12
Nothing to apologise for Bluey....good to get them merged :ok::)

bnt
11th Mar 2008, 19:33
As you might imagine, commenters on Richard Dawkins' website are finding all this highly amusing (http://richarddawkins.net/article,2346,Seven-new-deadly-sins-are-you-guilty,Times-Online)... :=

Brian Abraham
11th Mar 2008, 20:03
No birth control = more people = larger congregation = greater income

Not quite. The good Bishop said

Bishop Girotti said that social injustice which caused poverty

I think the idea is we breed like rabbits here and live in misery (see Africa) so we'll appreciate the good times in the afterlife. Going to be plenty of space up there since the clergy, in the main, would seem destined for down below. What with all the paedophilia in their ranks.

BDiONU
11th Mar 2008, 20:20
As you might imagine, commenters on Richard Dawkins' website are finding all this highly amusing (http://richarddawkins.net/article,2346,Seven-new-deadly-sins-are-you-guilty,Times-Online)... :=

And why not? The best thing you can do with ridiculous notions is to ridicule them. I guess I'll be going to hell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTOffYj5TxU).

http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20080302.gif

BD