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Jackonicko
20th Feb 2008, 20:37
What and where are Frame 27 and Frame 29?

27 and 29 metres back from the nose? 27 and 29 ft back?

Or 27 and 29 metres back from another reference point?

Or are they the fuselage main bulkhead and the rear main fuselage frame (spar attachment)?

Safety_Helmut
20th Feb 2008, 21:07
Jacko

I guess TOFO's response must pass for humour.......somewhere.

I believe that to find frame 27 and 29 you would count back from frame 1 at the nose of the aircraft. The frames are basically hoops joined together longitudinally by stringers or longerons.

Cheers

S_H

Saintsman
21st Feb 2008, 06:47
Metres?

Nimrod is British Standard Whitworth vintage.

cornish-stormrider
21st Feb 2008, 08:09
OH its in imperial. that translates to 9 and 364/96 millionths of a fathom to the weight of a bushel bag of toe scrapings and don't forget to allow for the fact its a cold thursday in february...... We shall start using the Navy lengths of chain soon.

For the sake of all that is accurate and easy to understand........Metricate.

:ok:

forget
21st Feb 2008, 08:17
For the sake of all that is accurate and easy to understand........Metricate.

Boll.........

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/nap.jpg

Fishtailed
21st Feb 2008, 08:51
We shall start using the Navy lengths of chain soon.
Maybe not but the 'ten to a furlong' one is still in use. Look on the end of any railway carriage and a plate quotes the minimum radius of track curve the carriage can accomodate in chains.

I'm with forget!

airborne_artist
21st Feb 2008, 08:57
Look on the end of any railway carriage and a plate quotes the minimum radius of track curve the carriage can accomodate in chains.


Look on any railway bridge maintained by Notwork Rail and its ID is the distance in miles and chains from the reference point, which on God's Wonderful Railway is Paddington.

nav attacking
21st Feb 2008, 09:00
Cornish-Stormrider

Standardise and metricate!!

The only thing standard about the MR2 is its name. Each frame was lovingly handcrafted back in the days when Britain had an aircraft engineering industry and wasn't just a fabrication yard. Just look at the MRA4 project and the problems that BAE had with non standard sizings, some parts are individually crafted for that particular airframe.

Jacko

Will attempt to speak to engineers and find a useful answer for you. In the meantime why the interest?

cornish-stormrider
21st Feb 2008, 10:36
Well now then gents. I work in an industry where 80% is metric and the other bit american. The issues I have over the duplication of spares and the having to specialist order parts from Wyoming cost time, money and output. If there was one standard for machinery it would be so much easier.

As to all you dinosaurs who believe in imperial.... if thats the case why do you work in a base 10 numerical system? surely if imperial is better then it should be :

BASE 32, BASE 12, BASE 3, BASE 1760 etc etc etc. rather than base 10. still not convinced??

try writing ((167 + 211 + 44) divided by 16) in binary. which is easier??

422 / 16 = 26.375 in base 10

Away you go.

Regie Mental
21st Feb 2008, 11:06
Thanks for clearing that up.

Roland Pulfrew
21st Feb 2008, 13:04
Cornish

As to all you dinosaurs who believe in imperial

Fly at heights measured in feet and at speeds measured in knots.
Drive in miles per hour and measure fuel consumption in miles per gallon.
Know my weight accurately in stones and lbs (too much actually) but not in kilos and my height in feet and inches but not in metres and centimetres.
Buy my meat and veg by the lb and ounces.

It's NOT that difficult! I have no need for metrication thanks!

Jacko

Frame numbers are numbered from front to back and do not usually mean a particular measurement. Some frames may be closer together than others, just depends on the design really.

Distant Voice
21st Feb 2008, 14:32
Jacko; Frames 27 and 29 are roughly mid-way between the cockpit's rearmost window and the rear entrance door.

DV

Nimrod Liney
21st Feb 2008, 18:18
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/matt0baker/plane_raf_nimrod_r1.jpg

Roughtly were the frames are,

Frame 8 is the Step in to the Cockpit
Frame 35 is a clear joint in the skin
Frame 54 is the pressure dome at the rear of the cabin

Safeware
21st Feb 2008, 18:50
RolandFrame numbers are numbered from front to back and do not usually mean a particular measurement. IIRC, Tornado is measured in mm from the virtual reference point at the nose. eg Frame 8000 is 8m back and, on an F3, is where the "front" joins the "centre" fuselage.

sw

forget
21st Feb 2008, 18:53
Nimrod Liney, If Carlsberg answered Prune questions ............ :D:D:D

Cracker!

charliegolf
21st Feb 2008, 19:01
Fred Creep....

Officers and airmen (and women) have beem measured metrically for ID card purposes since at least 1979. Sgt Golf was 177cm. Apparently.

CG

Safety_Helmut
21st Feb 2008, 20:24
Much better TOFO

But the piccy is of an R. So the dumping would be going on nearer to 54. As for the eating and sleeping, pretty much anywhere and everywhere between the nose and tail.

S_H

thunderbird7
21st Feb 2008, 20:26
I think Safety Helmut lost his sense of humour at frame 8.:ooh:

LowObservable
21st Feb 2008, 23:14
Liney

http://users.autoexposure.co.uk/is/autoedit/AETA40921/AETV44818807_1a.jpg

Nimrod Liney
22nd Feb 2008, 17:51
I was a little off 27 is in front of the escape hatch 29 behind, behind 28