EK Interview 31st March -02nd April 2008

[lunatismic]

Hello guys,

This is my first post on the PPRUNE, but I've been a regular reader for quite a while now.

I've sent my application to Emirates about a year and a half ago and have been updating it ever since, till FINALLY about a week ago I've received an email invitation for the interview on the 31st March -02nd April 2008 :)

Now I was wondering if anybody else here got the same dates and if so, what kind of background you guys have, since I am JUST over the threshold of their minimum required hours myself and a bit nervous about it.

Thanks and GOOD LUCK with the interview :ok:

To my experience from a couple of interviews like this, I think it can be real helpful for the group to know each other a bit and exchange information before hand, so if anyone is up for it please PM me. :):)

[airbussmooth]

First of congrats and good luck>> im sure u'll meet someone there who is

of course in the same postion as u, cause it can be stressful and not

knowing anyone in the surrounding can make things abit tougher.


I wanted to suggest u take a look at the ek threads and see how the

whole process goes and what to expect, that wa u can some what

to prepare for it>>> all the bes>>t and any experience thru the proceess

woudl be great if shared back on this site :D

[sioux115]

I am interviewing on those dates as well. I'm an RJ driver from the states with 100hrs. below the mins. I applied in Dec. 07'. See you there!

[sioux115]

Will do. I'm gonna have several questions about scheduling/bidding/rostering whatever you want to call it.

[lunatismic]

Thanks for the reply guys,

Do any of you have the details of the panel interview? what exactly do they ask? what are they looking for?

See you out there "Sioux" and good luck :ok: PM me if you'd like to have a chat

"Airbussmooth" I'll try to write a comprehensive feedback on the interview as soon as we go through the process, so stay tuned,,, :) and thanks for the tips

[Gillegan]

Keep Bendovering

That's great. You crack me up. Don't let them kill your sense of humour.:D

[aapa]

hi folks just wanted know how long was your application in at ek before you got invited thanks and good to u all.............

[FO320]

Hi

Can anyone explain the rostering at EK? What a typical month looks like or what a typical trip is? What can a typical first year F/O earn per month. How many days off per month on average. Im a 9 year F/O for a US Major with an interview with EK. Im not too confident with the US airlines and/or the US economy so Im weighing my options. Any info is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[lunatismic]

Hi FO320, I'll just copy/paste some information from "Emirates pilot briefing Doc" which was attached to my interview invitation email.

BASIC SALARY

Salaries, which are tax free, are paid monthly in arrears, in UAE Dirhams (US$1 = AED3.67) by credit transfer to the employee's bank account in the UAE. We do not transfer the salary into an overseas bank account.

Salary scales are reviewed on an annual basis; a step increment increase to the basic salary is awarded annually on 1st May.

The starting salaries for Flight Crew are as follows:

First Officer:
Starting monthly salary is AED 20,840.
Productivity Pay is AED 325 for each block hour above approximately 78 hours per month.
Flying pay–AED 35 will be paid for all block hours commencing from the first hour flown to the threshold level above which productivity pay will commence.

(IF YOU DONT CHOOSE TO LIVE IN COMPANY ACCOMMODATION, THE FOLLOWING HOUSING ALLOWANCE IS APPLICABLE)

The Housing Allowance option is provided, if an employee wishes to make and pay for his own accommodation arrangements. The employee will receive the Housing Allowance applicable to his grade:

Captains: AED 11,865 per month (AED 142,380 per annum)
First Officers: AED 10,565 per month (AED 126,780 per annum)

The employee will also receive a once only advance allowance of AED 30,000 to furnish his accommodation. No other allowances are payable. There is no entitlement to the Annual Refurbishment Allowance. Installation of a telephone line and arrangements for electricity connection are at the employee’s expense. Bills for water, gas, electricity consumption and applicable municipality charges, will also be paid by the employee.
The employee will be provided with temporary accommodation for a period of up to three months, by which time they are required to make suitable accommodation arrangements. Housing allowance will not be paid in respect off any period of time when the employee is housed in Company provided temporary accommodation.

LETS CALCULATE THE AVRAGE MONTHLY SALARY FROM THE ABOVE:

for the average of 50 Block Hours a month:
50x35=1750+20840(Basic)+10565(Housing)=33155 AED / 3.67=9035 USD

DAYS OFF
All crew members have a minimum of 7 days off in any consecutive 28 days and an average of at least 8 days off in each consecutive 28 day period, averaged over three such periods. These figures will be prorated in relation to periods of leave.


Command Eligibility Criteria
The Company criteria for command upgrade are as follows:

- 36 months in Emirates prior to promotion to Captain
- 6,000 hours total time.
- 4,000 hard hours.
- 12 months on type from the commencement of line training.
- Satisfactory completion of the Command Assessment Program.

As I said I've only copy/pasted the info, so I'm not sure how close are these information to reality.

Hope you find it useful :ok:

[Gillegan]

LETS CALCULATE THE AVRAGE MONTHLY SALARY FROM THE ABOVE:

for the average of 50 Block Hours a month:
50x35=1750+20840(Basic)+10565(Housing)=33155 AED / 3.67=9035 USD

While the rest seems pretty accurate, I would caution against including the housing allowance in your calculation. Unless you decide to buy a place and take the allowance, taking the allowance and renting is a poor decision. The allowance will not come close to covering the rent/utilities/taxes and you will be substantially out of pocket. If you take the allowance and buy something, you will still be substantially out of pocket but at least you will be accumulating equity. If you take the company accommodation (recommended), you will not receive the allowance but your rent and utilities will be taken care of and you will maximize the money saved (minimize money lost?) at the end of the month. You will average more than 50 block hours per month, at least after your first year but that is probably a good conservative estimate. More likely your paycheck (not including all the deductions you will be subject to for long distance phone, schooling etc.) would be about 6155 USD.

[menard]

Your basic cost of living with a family here (Food, kids activities,part of schooling, insurance, some holidays, booze...etc.) will be approx. 4000$ US a month. You may also want to buy a car.

This place is very expensive. I suggest you guys do a bit of research.

[lunatismic]

what happened to my post regarding EK salary??? :confused: it just got disappeared from the thread!!! :confused::confused:

[northeast canuck]

aapa,

The answer to your question is one week. That was the case for me and a few other guys I know!

[aapa]

thanks for the reply been in the short list pool since oct 07 but not heared anything my exp. 4500hrs tt 2500on b737 so im quite above the min. rqmnts. have turned a few jobs down here in the uk hopeing this would turn up whats the general exp. across the board who have been invited in a short spread of time...

[sioux115]

Im under the total time min. by about 200hrs and fly RJs in the US. It took me about a month from the short list to interview invite.

[airbussmooth]

To sioux>>

first off congrats :Don the interview goodluck with everything if u havent already gone thru the process>> :ok:


We you able?? or di u manage to find out anything new interesting or in depth with regards to the COMPASS TESTING!! :ugh::ugh::ugh:

[Guns-A-GoGo]

Just interviewed last week. I have all the info, but they are saying it is going to change in Mar. I'll post it this evening. No surprises from what is allready posted though.

Guns

[DoubtingThomas]

Gentlemen-

I am an American preparing for an interview in Dubai 1st week of April. Despite the recent turn for the (apparent) worse with the monthly rostering arrangement I am still excited for the opportunity to interview at EK.

I would appreciate, if you have the time, if I might join this group of PMs that you have going in the interest of getting gouge, etc.

I promise to pay it forward, haha.

Good luck to all.

[AKL382]

Hey guys congrats on the interviews. I'm considering appying for EK. I have about 12k hours in all kinds of aircraft. Most of my time is Alaska time. The only jet time I have is Lear all the rest is prop time. I'm currently employed at an Anchorage based C-130 operator that flys world wide. With Hercs based in Europe, and Asia. This would be a big dicission as I have a wife and two girls. One question I have is how are Americans treated? Is Dubia like Singapore where everbody gets along? Thanks!

-AKL382:)

[Guns-A-GoGo]

Compass Testing. Not every piece of info, but enough.

First, coordination test. Joystick, pedals, up and down arrow for airspeed. Get a good position for your arm. You are to follow the + type flight director. If you overcontrol, the airspeed will decrease/increase. The trim only goes to 2 ball widths out of trim. Not a tough exercise for helicopter drivers.

Then came the other tests, ALL TIMED:
Basic math, long division, multiplication, some word problems, associative, cummulative properties. Thank God I've been doing math with my 5th grade son.
Memory test with the following format

Altitude
Heading
Speed
Radar Alt

They give a value next to 2 or 3 of them, then you type in what it was with the applicable A,H,S,R then hit enter. You have to hit that number within 3 seconds.

3 dimensional bearing off a center point. It has a plane with relative acft position to the center point, a pointer relative to pitch up/down/left/right, and a relative pointer to N/S/E/W. These are all superemposed over a grid around the centerpoint. you must figure out which one is correct. Do as many in a certain time period.

Autopilot operation that tells you an altitude, heading, speed changes. You must use the +/- for altitude, left/right arrows for heading, up/down arrows to change speed. They want you to change each to reflect the requested part of the screen, to the changable part of the screen. At the same time they have 2 blocks at the top about 2x2in that is black and will turn 1 part red corresponding to the 1-9 on the numberpad(You have 3 seconds to do this). You change them, hit enter and it goes to the next change. Time limited also.

30 questions, general aviation. This is basic, but confusing if you haven't studyed this.

ex: What is the most effective way to stop a plane on a dry runway

Spoilers, thrust reverser, or anti skid breaks

When flying under a cumlonimbus cloud what will you get

a down draft; an updraft,downdraft, followed by an updraft; a downdraft,followed by an updraft, followed by a downdraft.

If you are going to descend from 38,000ft to 8,000ft. how many miles will it take @3degrees

60nm, 75nm, 100 nm

[lunatismic]

Thanks for the feedback,

You've mentioned something about changes in the interview in March, am I right? Can you give us more info on that?
would you say the compass testing was HARD??

Good Luck with the result :ok: :ok:

[Guns-A-GoGo]

The compass testing wasn't hard. It just took a lot of concentration. It was kind of like a checkride. You had to get yourself sic'd up for it. Get the blood to flowing, and bare down. It really tests a good cross check and short term memory.

One of the check pilots stated that he liked the old way of doing the interview. I have no idea what that is except for what I have read here. He said that the first day the check pilot had a chance to sit down with the interviewee and go through the logbook and spend the morning with them to get to know them. Then do the checkride that afternoon. He basically came out and said this was going to happen again in March.

Guns

[jetaviator]

Hello

Any examples in the group assessments

Thank's

[Guns-A-GoGo]

I'll PM you this afternoon.

G

[E-tjops]

1st , want to thank you for your open and insightful info.
Great to see someone willing to share valueble interview gen.
2nd, will also appreciate more insight of the group assessment exercises

Cheers :D:ok:

[The Darkness]

Thank you very much for posting the compass testing information and all other interview-related stuff - very helpful.

In response to others interviewing 1st April-3rd April, I too will be there.

Feel free to PM if you'd like to chat.

The Darkness

[Guns-A-GoGo]

I honestly believe it is nothing more than showing you can play well with others. It is a problem that is timed. They know we will do everything to solve the problem before the time, so it is a diversion. Be involved, don't dominate, don't overwelm.

Since they are timed, the first thing to do is jump right in and say something along the line of "Bill, you have a great big watch, why don't you keep the time."

I believe it is all about showing you can work as a team.

G

[Bandit FO]

Good advice about the watch. Did you get that from a very smart and good-looking 777 FO?
Good luck to y'all!

[Guns-A-GoGo]

Yea, I stole it from you. It seemed so perfect.

As far as the looks go, don't know about that.

By the way, the sim ride went GREAT!

[Bandit FO]

Great! Have they checked your refs yet?

[sioux115]

Hey lunatismic, Darkness, Thomas, and anyone else interviewing on mar.31st. If your staying at the majestic and have time we should have a drink and a chat. Let me know.

[aeromar28]

Hello.

With all due respect, since i know im far from being at the carreer stage u guys are.

I would like to know if any of you has a hint on how a company like EY or EK would assess people for a cadet program. I'm not local, so i applied for EY's new worldwide ab-initio training. I have a PPL and I'm currently finishing the ATPL theory module in Spain, while I build up some more SE time before the next course.

A general aviation test wouldn't be too hard for me now, since all the theory is still fresh in my head. I wanna know if any of you EK drivers, has had any chat with an emirati pilot about the tests prior to joining the cadet program. I don't wanna be surprised with an interview invitation, not knowing my stuff.

Thanks, and sorry if... well, i know some people don't like cadets.

[airbussmooth]

Remember that one day everyone was a cadet in some way or another!!

even if it may have been awhile ago!!!!, it's just that now aviation is

getting so dynamic that growth as well as globalization is fueling more

chances. One shouldnt be put off:= by assuming that lack of

experience is negative.


Infact, its the ability of recognizing it and trying to correct it or

enquiring about it, is the sorta thing that will lead to gaining more

"valuable experience". By not asking questions or looking to seek a better

understanding would only stop your progression. So aeromar hang in there:ok:

[aeromar28]

Thanks... when i read all your posts i have this feeling like i know u. See, i used to be Emirates cabin crew. Yeah, i was that guy who instead of sleeping in the crew rest, would spend hours in the flight deck reading the airplanes manual and boring stuff like that. That gave me the chance to have hours of really useful conversations with pilots encouraging me to go on. One day i even took my laptop with my airbus CBT, boring u guys with questions as i went through it.

So... i spoke to soo many of them (and im sure some remember me, although that has probably more to do with the actual layover party) that for some reason i feel like i know u. I hope we see eachother again soon, this time in a different uniform...

Omar

[Sabeji]

Hi all, I'll be there from the 6th to the 8th of April.

the response was quick even if I lack 200 jet hours.
But been ex-Pat before and have 12k total, most Captain.
Looking forward to see some of you guys around there!
Sabeji