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Cessna Master Beta
26th Jan 2008, 09:21
G’day all Happy Australia day J

I am an Engineer that’s been working in GA for some years now. Flying has always been a boyhood dream but I suffer from a mild form of Coprolalia the rarer form of Tourette’s. This has stopped me from chasing the dream of flying as a career. Its nice to work in aviation but I really want to become a driver in one of those shiny birds

Heres a link for those who do are unaware of Coprolalia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprolalia

Coprolalia is involuntary swearing or the involuntary utterance of obscene words or socially inappropriate and derogatory remarks. Coprolalia comes from the Greek κόπρος meaning "feces" and λαλία meaning "babbling, meaningless talk", from lalein, "to talk". The term is often used as a clinomorphism, with 'compulsive profanity' inaccurately referred to as being Tourette syndrome.




As a child my outbursts where uncontrollable but with age and therapy I lead a fairly normal life. Mostly I can cover up an outburst in the hangar by faking that I bruised my knuckles or hit my fingers whilst working.

My condition is brought on by stressful situations and that includes just learning to fly. I worry if I start down the path of a CPL that I will have uncontrollable outbursts to passengers and during radio operations. I already have nightmares about addressing crew and passengers over the intercom. I have passed my medical as Coprolalia officially doesn’t affect my ability to fly but does seem unprecedented in Australian aviation circles

So what should my next step be? Would it be possible to get some sort of dispensation from ATC or CASA for my use of involuntary profanity?Maybe theres other avenues of a flying career I havent explored yet.

Just need some support from you guys and any suggestions to make my dream come true :}

Stationair8
26th Jan 2008, 09:27
Sounds like you would qualify for a position as Kerry Provis's replacement at Air North.

Howard Hughes
26th Jan 2008, 09:45
Perhaps taking steps to alleviate the trigger (reducing stress) will mean you go unnoticed by fellow pilots!:ok:

Failing that, perhaps a career in Ag flying where you don't talk a lot on the radio and swearing is an accepted from of communication!;)

Cheers, HH.:ok:

Capt Wally
26th Jan 2008, 10:05
Interesting post. I wouldn't mind betting a lot of people pilots included may suffer from this insidious ailment even in a minor form.
We`all suffer stress, that's human nature given our fast & furious world we live in but it's obviously how we handle it. Learning to fly with that dissfunction would obviously be a challenge & would be somewhat dependant on where/whom was doing the teaching. You obviously can hold a professional job & have gained more knowledge about yourself than most in here. Commercial flying may be yr limiting factor but private should be achievable given the right understanding from the flying community.
I wish you well, you obviously have the determintaion to do/try it even by asking here where some can be ruthless !

All the best, you never never know if you never never go !

CW:)

Muffinman
26th Jan 2008, 10:08
Get the :mad:ing gear up, ... don't touch those :mad:ing throttles, ... where's my :mad:ing coffee, ... I'm not :mad:ing holding!!

- I think you'll have no problems CMB.

Lefthanded_Rock_Thrower
26th Jan 2008, 10:21
On that alone, I'd suggest you'd be very well qualified to work at any aeroclub in Australia :).

QFcaptain
26th Jan 2008, 10:34
Seeing that stressfull situations trigger your condition that would possibly be disastrous in emergency situations.Which is when you need to be 100% switched on and calm so I'd say that an airline career and charter would be most likely out of sights but as mentioned, Ag flying or something similar may be possible.All the best to ya

Muffinman
26th Jan 2008, 10:40
So QFcaptain - no :mad:ing emergency situations in :mad:ing AG or :mad:ing instructing eh you :mad:ing :mad:er.

QFcaptain
26th Jan 2008, 11:45
I just considered that if youre flying Ag then youre basicly halfway on a landing to put the thing on the ground and if youre and instructor then you have the student to take care of it(pretend like it's good for his expirience).Jokes aside, I was refering to sectors that are more related to the public or that endangered more lifes then your own.:ok:

(ei man, I aint know u connected, here's a little morphine let me see you inject it)?

ciscodiscocisco
26th Jan 2008, 23:34
hehehe im so sorry for laughing CessnaMasterBatter... but its quite hilarious and according to who might give you a job i will suggest skippers or network due to their lack of incompetence and they need to chill a bit and laugh specially those silly left hand drivers that i think theyr a bunch of ....................

Lefthanded_Rock_Thrower
27th Jan 2008, 00:18
Cisco,

WTF are you talking about ?.

Towering Q
27th Jan 2008, 12:54
LRT...don't worry about CiscoDisco, he suffers from a far worse condition.:eek:

Now, Cessna, some options for you...

How about a Top End Aboriginal Community posting in a 206? The pax wouldn't be bothered in the slightest about any possible outbursts. You would fit in well.

Maybe a S/O slot with the White Rat? I hear they are preparing them for F/A duties, you would be a great help to the Cabin Crew when dealing with the SLF.:E

"Just sit the :mad:ck down and shut the :mad:ckup you :mad:ers!!"

Have you considered a career as an ATC'er? You may be just the person ASA are looking for to fill the Perth slot, especially on those busy mornings!

Shouldn't get too much backchat from those pesky FIFO Captains when you ask them to hold on the taxiway for another hour.:ok:

Pinky the pilot
28th Jan 2008, 01:55
lack of incompetence

Meaning they're quite efficient and most competent!:oh:

Cessna Master Beta
20th Feb 2008, 07:27
Thanks for your words of encouragement guys!!!!

Now I just need to beat my Narcolepsy ;)

NAMPS
20th Feb 2008, 09:01
Give Dieter at Airtex a call.