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Bush Pig
15th Jan 2008, 07:30
Heard today a QF 400 has had it's fwd hold iced up in Mel with possible structural damage, ie popped skin nails. Can anyone confirm?

Capt Fathom
15th Jan 2008, 08:41
Heard today a QF 400 has had it's fwd hold iced up in Mel with possible structural damage, ie popped skin nails.

WTF. It this some sort of jive language?
For us mere mortals, could you translate it!

grouter
15th Jan 2008, 08:55
QF 400 = a qantas 747-400 or 737-400.

fwd hold = forward cargo hold. ie the one nearest the pointy bit of the aeroplane.

iced up = water some where it shouldn't be that has frozen.

popped skin nails = rivets (what holds aluminium tube together) have failed.

Does that help?

Scurvy.D.Dog
15th Jan 2008, 08:58
I read it to mean that a B7?4 in Melbourne has possible structural (skin) damage around the forward hold (assumed to be water turned to ice, probably around stringers and skin area bottom of the fuse) which when expanded (turned to ice) popped skin rivets from the stringers (or whatever they call them nowadays)
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.. but then I don't speak jive either so probably wildly off the mark :E

Islander Jock
15th Jan 2008, 09:59
I thought BP was referring to a Q400 turbo prop.

flylittlebirdie
15th Jan 2008, 14:30
I thought it had something to do with the minimum equipment list for the ice machine on a qantas freighter

GAS guy
15th Jan 2008, 15:18
Negative. He's talking about QF400. Departed "Mexico" for Sydney this morning with it's forward ho diced up. Someone call the cops. Coincidentally, the cargo hold happened to contain one of these QF400 ice machines. (http://www.brrr.cc/product.php?productid=19565&cat=442&page=1)

Sunfish
15th Jan 2008, 19:47
I don't think water can get between the skin panels since all faying surfaces are sealed on manufacture, probably with the good old brown **** as we called it. prc 14??

Short_Circuit
15th Jan 2008, 21:44
Would it be OJQ again, our quality product (not) from SIAEC outsourced heavy maintenance.:ugh:

flying-spike
16th Jan 2008, 01:22
Now be nice. These ladies do a wonderful job. No need for name calling!

rammel
16th Jan 2008, 05:03
I don't know what the exact problem was. But QF9 Mel-Sin-Lhr on the 15th which normally departs in the afternoon, left at 1030 or so today.

blackhander
16th Jan 2008, 06:16
Apparently 2 aogs with drain mast heat failures. OJQ in MEL and dunno about the other. Of couse nil spares

Roger Standby
16th Jan 2008, 06:28
Gas guy may not like the FA's up the front, but no reason to "dice" them up...:}

Bush Pig
16th Jan 2008, 08:35
Thankyou SC yes it was I found out OJQ in Mel yesterday, leaking fwd drain mast, flooded the fwd hold, don't think any structural damage. Big delay though. Some Sydney boys came down to patch it up. :}

No SAR No Details
16th Jan 2008, 10:38
OJQ again, I hope for QF's sake that the press don't get a hold of that one.
Does anyone have Laura from Today Tonights phone number?
Stapled emergency lighting eels, never connected passenger emergency oxygen masks, poorly inspected-if ever inspected plumbing ever so close to those precious black boxes that control the aircraft power supply- which are very susceptable to water damage.
How would Coxy explain that on camera?
Answer: Very poorley if prior form is anything to go by.