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ads1963
14th Jan 2008, 12:04
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/topstories/topstories/view/20080114-112264/US-FAA-finds-RP-unsafe-port-of-origin-downgrades-rating

US FAA finds RP unsafe port of origin, downgrades ratingThe United States’ Federal Aviation Administration has found the Philippines to be an unsafe port of origin, downgrading the country from category 1 to category 2, the FAA said on its website.


Countries that fall under category 1 are those which comply with aviation safety standards of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), while those that fall under category 2 are those that do not, the FAA said.
In its new Flight Standards Service-International Aviation Safety Assessment (IASA) (http://www.faa.gov/safety/programs_initiatives/oversight/iasa/media/iasaws.xls), and released January 8 this year, the FAA included the Philippines in a list of 20 countries that did “not provide safety oversight of its air carrier operators in accordance with the minimum safety oversight standards established by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).”
Category 2 consists of two groups of countries. One includes countries, like the Philippines, which have air carriers with existing operations to the United States at the time of the assessment.
Aside from the Philippines, others in this category are Bangladesh, Cote D’Ivoire, Ghana, Guyana, Indonesia, Ukraine, Serbia and Montenegro (formerly Yugoslavia), and Nauru.
While in category 2 status, carriers from these countries will still be allowed to operate at their current levels, but under heightened FAA surveillance.
“Expansion or changes in services to the United States by such carriers are not permitted while in category 2, although new services will be permitted if operated using aircraft wet-leased from a duly authorized and properly supervised US carrier or a foreign air carrier from a category 1 country that is authorized to serve the United States using its own aircraft,” the FAA said.
Under the second group of countries, or those which do not have existing operations to the US at the time of the assessment, their carriers will not be permitted to start service to the US while in category 2 status, the FAA said.
Countries in this group are Belize, Democratic Republic of Congo (formerly Zaire), Gambia, Haiti, Honduras, Kiribati, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Swaziland, Uruguay, Zimbabwe, the FAA said.
They will only be permitted to operate in the US under the same conditions as those given to countries that already operate in the US, that is, “if [they use] aircraft wet-leased from a duly authorized and properly supervised US carrier or a foreign air carrier from a category 1 country that is authorized to serve the United States with its own aircraft,” the FAA said.
The FAA said a category 2 rating is applied if one or more of the following deficiencies are identified: The country lacks laws or regulations necessary to support the certification and oversight of air carriers in accordance with minimum international standards; the country’s civil aviation authority (CAA) lacks the technical expertise, resources, and organization to license or oversee air carrier operations;
The CAA does not have adequately trained and qualified technical personnel; the CAA does not provide adequate inspector guidance to ensure enforcement of, and compliance with, minimum international standards; and the CAA has insufficient documentation and records of certification and inadequate continuing oversight and surveillance of air carrier operations, the FAA said.
When asked how the FAA rating would affect carriers and travellers, Rebecca Thompson, spokesperson of the US embassy in Manila, said the report is directed at the local civil aviation authority, not at the local carriers or the travellers who take the local carriers.
In a phone interview with INQUIRER.net, she confirmed that the FAA rating would limit the expansion of operations of the local carriers from the Philippines in the United States.

win_faa
16th Jan 2008, 03:49
"Aside from the Philippines, others in this category are Bangladesh, Cote D’Ivoire, Ghana, Guyana, Indonesia, Ukraine, Serbia and Montenegro (formerly Yugoslavia), and Nauru"..... at least madami tayo nasa Cat 2... congratulations to the Philippines for being part of the elite group of countries who does not meet the ICAO requirements :D and thanks to the ATO for such an effort :D ... Does the ATO still have the guts to conduct audit/inspections to.. say.. repair stations, airlines, pilots, flying school and say to them... we want you to do this!...! It was expected that the downgrade should have occured last year 2007. But in the end it was a right decision made by the FAA to AGAIN downgrade the Philippines to Cat 2... You know why? because the ATO...."CAME BACK TO THE DOGS!"

pacplyer
16th Jan 2008, 13:21
So what does this mean? FAA inspectors are going to route check PAL going into the states a lot now?

ICAO traffic isn't affected over the P.I. right? Airlines will still choose to overfly the country. Domestic flights are still handled by the ATO right? So Lucitan can't expand service frequency into states? That's it right?

Nothing is more dorked up than the FAA in the states. In repeated AIG audits 60% of FAA's own fleet of Fanjet Falcons and other aircraft were found to have bogus parts in them like the ones FAA is unhappy overseas with.

Have there been fatal accidents lately from the P.I? There sure has been lots in the U.S including 911. FAA causes most of these problems because they are big on public enforcement bluster and short on listening to troops in the trenches.

Of course, these are all just my opinions only.

pac

win_faa
16th Jan 2008, 23:07
The truth is any time FAA downgrades a country to Cat 2 using their IASA system, ICAO follows what the FAA does... meaning in the "eyes of the ICAO" RP is not meeting the standards.

Metro man
16th Jan 2008, 23:57
There have been a few examples of aircraft running off the end of runways recently haven't there ?

puliszaido
30th Jan 2008, 01:15
In my mind the most suitable guy to be ATO Asec is Meynard Halili. Non-partisan and FAA trained. Straight shooter and will not hold back on anything.

starflyer
30th Jan 2008, 14:18
I fully agree with you parakzaido, Capt. Meynard Halili is the man. His passion is to restore dignity to Filipino Aviation. But sad to say, the right man wont be assigned there anyway...they would rather assign politicians or Policemen. Hehe! Why are you called Pulis zaido anyway...are you Mendoza?

9ball
15th Jul 2009, 12:43
So when will Category 2 be lifted? anyone?

win_faa
16th Jul 2009, 07:19
Good question! Even CAAP doesnt know the answer :ugh:

EU will be doing their audit this October, ICAO by November, expect some more downgrades i.e. EU black list etc...

afjose
9th Aug 2009, 18:27
Put Saturnino Dela Cruz As The Director Of Caa-p ;)

Propeta
10th Aug 2009, 11:29
Expect the worse, looks like it will be a black year for the aviation industry:{

afjose
11th Aug 2009, 03:28
Usa Faa Keeps On Dipping Their Fingers In Everrything Without Realizing That Point Of Origin Of 9-11 Was In Usa.no Wonder The Moslems Are Really Out To Castrate These Americans.more 9-11 To Come I Believe:o