Good Bye GD

[newsensation]

The Townsville refueler tells me GD is retiring in 6 months, he has slashed and burned everything and now his management skills are no longer required... who will take his place?:rolleyes:

[CaptCloudbuster]

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[Clipped]

Heard the same from the Adelaide cleaning staff - now I know it's true.

He will be sorely missed. How will we function without him?

Six more months to plunder - is that enough time?

[Capt Wally]

GD leaving ain't the problem, nobody is 4ever, it's the loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong list of nasty's & bitter tasts left in employees mouths he's going to leave behind ! Maybe the 'oil pump' repair job wasn't that good, he'd ask the engineers for help, if he had any that cared !
Funny how the guys at 'ground' level know such things, without you lot the world stops turning !:)

CW:)

[virgindriver]

So I wonder if GD's little irishman (as he apparently calls him) is looking forward to the top job?

I would imagine the board is looking at his track record at JQ thinking that he is just the sort of person they want...:}

[satos]

couldn't be worse!
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I hope that's not his son.

[Stationair8]

Quick book the phone-box at Port Keats for his farewell function.

[Wod]

Be very careful what you wish for people.

Imagine someone with the same people skills, but inferior business skills.

Instead of unhappy workers, you would be unhappy Re Dundees.

[thosecotos]

a refueller in TSV and a cleaner in ADL....definitely truth then

I love this website!

[Qantas 787]

Well if Peter Gregg gets the job, he will slash costs even more than Dixon........he is a numbers man and will do everything to reduce costs even further. Help us if he is the successor.............

[DEFCON4]

I would hope that Borghetti has the inside running.He is the last senior manager that came up through the Qantas School.All these others are nothing more than pretenders from TAA.A domestic skill set running an international airline.No wonder the place is in crisis.
Dixon's departure will be like losing a haemorhoid.

[Short_Circuit]

Yes a 2 Billion Dollar hemorrhoid. :} OUCH !

[Buster Hyman]

Oh, so it wasn't a heart bypass, but a horn removal he had....:confused:

[strobe12]

So we all have ideas on who the worst candidates would be, apart from JB.

So who does the PPRUNE folks think would be a good person to take the CEO position?

[Jabawocky]

Answer.....Me.

I would do a much better job of listening to those and empowering those who actually know what the job is that needs to be done.

Let the accountants manage the funds, and thats it!

Its not not much harder than that.

And I would do it for a fraction of the current payscale of GD.

No matter what job you do....nobody is worth what he gets paid. Nobody.

If you can get me the gig, PM me.:ok:

[Capt Wally]

Hey 'jaba' don't forget the 'mum & dad QF investors, they'll want to see a return on their monies, afterall QF is a public Co. not just for the employees. Don't let the accountants handle the purse strings, sheeeez see what most drive thses days?:bored: When yr at the head of QF handing out cigars & pay rise to the troops (we all would do the same anyway) it means you have less in the kitty for the true owners of the airline:). If QF could buy back all it's shares then you can go crazy & give the A/C toilet cleaners a $200 pw rise, heavens knows they deserve it, what a job !:)
As for the engineers?.........well there ain't enough money for those guys/gals, without them the A/C would only make good cubby houses !:}
Anyway whom ever takes the controls we can only hope for a better end result, they couldn't do much worse than the current management!:bored:


CW:)

[Jabawocky]

Wally,

The shareholders need to understand what a 100% write down of their investment really means. Ansett was a recent example.

Its seems to me the cow is being milked dry, and you can only do that for so long. Again refer Ansett.

As for the accountants and lawyers.....these guys are quite possibly the most over paid of them all. Value for money, they probably yield the least. If a really good bean counter costs $100K PA, what kind of miracles does one who costs $250K or moreprovide?

Think about this, when was the last time the accounts, legal and senior management asked to become more competitive?:ugh: Just like the operational folk are? See its not about giving out crazy pay rises, its about balance, and many large companies do not have that.

Many a lesson could be learnt by the study of folk like Warren Buffet. Simple things like the expensive cars you allude to.....a budget of say $60k for all these guys and want a Porsche......pay for it yourself.

J:ok:

[Bush Pig]

Any engineer that has a sound sense of reasonability and honesty. They seem to be the only people that do, except of course the A380 legendary technical aviation specialist team! :}

[Capt Wally]

Hey that's fine Jaba:) It takes more than one single guy CEO, GD to bring a Co. down.
Ansett's demise is/was complexe as we know. As above it took a lot more than one individual to bring that icon to it's knees.
I think you will find that upper management need to perfom just like any other part of the buisness, if they don't they are given the heav-ho, we see/hear this a lot with large Co's. It's just that those charactors aren't living from pay to pay as some of the 'drones' are.

Like I said will be interesting to see who takes the helm after GD, those initials will mean "Gone & done" when he's just in the histroy books:bored:

Interesting points from all:)

CW:ok:

[newsensation]

How about Dick Smith, Australians for Australian jobs no more outsourcing to cheep overseas labour and we know he knows all about aviation...:rolleyes:
but in think John Borgetti will get the job.

[Capt Wally]

nah Dick is too busy travelling the world by Ford (silly boy):bored:. Come on Dick we need an update on the COG (Car On Ground ) parts to fix yr yanky heavy metal:)

CW:)

[Bush Pig]

GD just bugger off, go and find a seat next to your old pal JH and rot away like all the other old dithering farts that try to change things for the worse but inevitably fail.

[teresa green]

The best we can hope for is Cosgrove. Whilst he is not a experienced big town ender, he fully understands operational and safety issues, aviation concerns, and would probably not take to much bullcrap from beancounters. He has the background QF needs to get it back to its roots, and run properly with operational requirements at the head of the list. I think he would listen to the flight deck and hanger floor problems and communicate with staff. He was well respected as Chief of Staff, and came thru the army the hard way. A hard bloke but a fair bloke. He will do.

[Keg]

Given that Cosgrove was one of the board that unanimously recommended the APA deal then I don't know that he's yet learned to work out the bulldust from the real information. Nope, I don't want him as CEO.

[mmmbop]

Here's to hoping Borghetti is cast from the same mould as Gordon M. Bethune. Anybody with less skills/abilities than the ex Continental CEO need not apply(And that means YOU P.G. !!!!!!!) Dxion may well have made the company appear financially sound, but the deep-rooted cracks are now just appearing to show.

I look forward to seeing GD trying to get onto a rat tailed aircraft in retirement....me-thinks he'll only fly our one-world partners!

M

[B A Lert]

I am sure many will disagree, but the smartest and sharpest card in the pack is one Alan Joyce. Even though he is presiding over Jet*, he is simply firing the bullets made by others. He is undoubtedly the best internal candidate on offer. Some would even consider EGM of Engineering. :yuk::yuk:

On another front, would it be possible top draft Dick Smith to stand as a director at the next Board meeting? Dick would bring enormous business clout as well as a very deep understanding of operational issues. He would bring true independence to the Board and serve the shareholders and staff exceptionally well.

[Short_Circuit]

B A Lert
The former Civil Aviation Authority Board member Dick Smith said cost-cutting was unlikely to affect flying safety,etc etc etc ....
How wrong was he.
Now you want him running an airline. :{

[RedTBar]

I hear that John Howard and Peter Costello have nothing on their plates at the moment :E

Apart from Johnny going to the cricket but then again he could have a private box at the SCG in his contract I'm sure

[Qantas 787]

Cox doesn't want the job. I have to say I wouldn't be unhappy if Joyce got it - he is the best internal candidate

[QFinsider]

Please, a little fella more of spin than substance..We really need more of that as the mainline falls apart....:mad:

[AEROMEDIC]

Ray Williams just got out of jail ....... What about him???

:sad::sad::sad:

[speedbirdhouse]

He'd fit in :yuk:

[QFinsider]

Gordon Bethune.

Go and read "From Worst to First"

He is the guy..He has the track record, he turned around an airline that had exactly the same sort of things done to it that Dixon is doing to us.

He also had credibility, noone alluded to above has any aviation credilbility. Mr.Bethune worked for Boeing, was an engineer and type rated pilot on
B757/767.

[another superlame]

How about engineerings old friend Trevor Crabtree.
Maybe even Gary Toomey he already has QF experience and the knowledge of how to run airlines into the ground, I would think he is the perfect successor to GD

[Taildragger67]

RedTBar,

If one is to believe the SMH, Costello will soon be up in the Macquarie Bank ivory tower.

Which, given their penchant for grabbing aviation-related assets worldwide, will probably mean that he'll be running QF at some stage anyway... :hmm:

[Alien Role]

I consider Gary Toomey would be an exellent CEO !
He had considerable experience within the Qantas group and was evidently well regarded as the person who put Qantas into the good financial position it now enjoys.

Anyone who looks at the demise of Ansett in an objective way will realise that Gary Toomey was sold the greatest dummy ever, by a rapacious News Ltd and an incompetent AIR NZ.:*

Role on........

[teresa green]

Keg, the whole bloody lot of them voted to flog QF off. Can someone tell me why you can sell a airline knowing full well it is undervalued, and you are cheating the shareholders, but hey, thats ok, cause we didn't flog it, what tha!!! Why have not the ACCC asked Dixon, Jackson "what the F$#% did you think you are doing fleecing the shareholders??? it has me beaten.:confused:

[Qanchor]

DEFCON4,
Thanks for having the granite to say what we've all been thinking since '92, and this situation is not only at the top end. We inherited a basketcase from top to bottom.

[pilotdude09]

Who ever it is

They better realise that the 787's should be going to mainline first and then some go to JQ later on, instead of screwing the prem pax for a couple more years and getting stuck with the ratty old 767's!

Geoff Dixon is an utter ********, sure hes made money for the company but his ethics and the way he runs the business sucks.

And anyway it is a customer service business, that should be their priortiy with safety. Then money should be down the list after staff morale etc etc.

Id run the company anyday! give me 100k, nice V8 and a mansion overlooking Sydney harbour and ill do it :)

[Sunfish]

Gary Toomey is perhaps economical with the truth. I caught him out publicly during the AN767 fiasco. He continued insisting (on public radio) that there were "no problems" when it was obvious to anyone who had ever worked for an airline that they were in deep ****.

He'll fit right in at Qantas..

[schlong hauler]

The moral decay of QF management is running a close parallel to the previous Government's own decay and lack of accountability. Anybody else see the parallel between this and AWB. Sourced from the ABC.

US names Qantas executives linked to price-fixing
Posted 4 minutes ago

US authorities have released the names of six former and present Qantas executives linked to the company's price-fixing cartel.

The US Department of Justice last year fined Qantas $68 million for colluding with other companies in the air-freight industry.

The department has named Peter Frampton, John Cooper, Stephen Cleary, Harold Pang, Desmond Church and Bruce McCaffrey as connected to the cartel.

Law firm Maurice Blackburn has served a class-action on the company and says the impact of the price-fixing is estimated to be up to $200 million.