A&P and PART66

[alaskawrench]

Hello,I am an a&p mechanic in the u.s. and i would like to get the PART66 engineer certificate. Been working on french a/c for over 15 years.Has anyone out there done this? I know I cannot convert my license to PART66. Would really like to get one and work across the pond.Any info to get me going in the right direction would be great.

[Greeny9]

Have a look at the following link

http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=177&pagetype=68&gid=196

[Beeline]

WWW.EASA.EU.ORG (http://www.EASA.EU.ORG) holds the basic regulation IR PART-66 that will give you lots of information regarding the licence set up in Europe, this includes the examination syllabus and prerequisites to obtain the basic licence and type endorsements.

English or German NAA (National Aviation Authority) are the licences taken in highest regard to other authorities if you say want to go and work elsewhere, personally, take your exams with either of them.

If you do wish to work on French Registered Aircraft a French Legislation exam will be required to endorse the European licence that will be recognised by them anyway under EASA.

My NAA the CAA do an excellent Engineers Licence Guidance Document on their website www.caa.co.uk (http://www.caa.co.uk) and search ELGD.

Good Luck :ok:

[Mr.Brown]

English or German NAA (National Aviation Authority) are the licences taken in highest regard to other authorities if you say want to go and work elsewhere, personally, take your exams with either of them.

This high regard of licence is only for converted licences pre part66 as all of Europe now has the same standard exams (in theory).
So now you can do your exams in any approved exam centre across Europe or even the world now and apply to any EASA member state for your licence. So in theory you could do your exams in Sweden and apply to the UKCAA for your licence.
However if you are an EASA member state citizen a good excuse might be needed as to why your not applying to your own NAA.
To remove my electrical restriction from my licence I did some exams in other member states and no company will ever know as the licence says nothing about where you did your exams.
Very very few jobs now ask for a particular NAA's licence because of this. There is no way of knowing where you did the exams.
So my advice is do the exams where its cheapest and apply to which ever NAA is quickest and cheapest for issuing.
And if everyone does that the likes of the UKCAA will have to drop their prices and speed up their awful licence/type application turnaround times.

[alaskawrench]

Thanks for the info Mr.Brown, for now getting the part66 license in the UK is what I intend on doing. Although I have been doing some research to see if it is possible to get the canadian endorsment and then converting to part66. As far as i can tell the syllabus and the exams are very, very similar.Or possibly takeing the exams in canada and applying for the licence in the UK,I will just have to see.Either way I want to do the right thing.

[EgyWrench]

hi everybody, and thanks to this nice forum members for the informations

just i have a question
i want to know what are the approved exam centres in Europe or and the world?
any site about this any e-mail, contact information
especially in UK
thanks

[bigoil]

SR Technics Switzerland

[Mr.Brown]

i want to know what are the approved exam centres in Europe or and the world?
any site about this any e-mail, contact information
especially in UK
thanks

http://www.airservicetraining.co.uk/welcome.html
http://www.lrtt.co.uk/home.php
http://www.part66.com/
http://www.cityofbristol.ac.uk/coursefinder/SubClassification_pt.aspx?mode=PT&classid=9
http://www.bas.com.bh/eng_web/index.htm
http://www.srtechnics.com/cms/index.asp?TopicID=154
http://www.shannonaerospace.com/SAL_Services/Live/SrvTemplate.asp?intPage_ID=10

[IFixPlanes]

Lufthansa Technical Training (http://ltt.de/eng/data/index_start.php)

[Geezer7348]

Hi there EGYWrench,

I noticed your location is Egypt, You may find it easier and cheaper to travel to Bahrain where Air Service Training hold exams every few months.

[mrmagooo]

It is possible to sit exams throught Europe as stated but the CAA insist that you sit the essays in the UK if you want them to issue you a licence

[Mr.Brown]

It is possible to sit exams throught Europe as stated but the CAA insist that you sit the essays in the UK if you want them to issue you a licence
Now that is something I'm not aware of, is there any official documentation to that effect?
It shouldn't make a difference where you do the exams as long as it is an approved exam centre.
Has anyone actually been refused a licence because they did their essay's in another country??

To quote the CAA themselves from their website:

Personnel Licensing - Maintenance Engineers
This part of the department is responsible for the licensing of Aircraft Maintenance Engineers, the approval of training courses and Organisations under Part-147.

Licences are issued under Part-66, which provides a common and mutually acceptable standard across EASA member States.

[mrmagooo]

Not that I am aware of, but when I spoke to the CAA to check that if I did a course abroad, would that be acceptable to them they told me

" You may sit approved exams abroad, but if you want us to issue you your licence then you MUST sit the essays here, so as we can be certain of your written English ability"

All over the phone so no written proof of that conversation, sorry

[Mr.Brown]

Is it not a requirement for all EASA licenced engineers to be able to read and write english, and aren't all the exams in English.
And if the CAA are not confident of the EASA part66 exams in other countries why do they let for example French engineers maintain G registered aircraft?
Sounds to me, they want your money!!!

[JamesA]

You have got it in one, Mr. Brown.
I had a UK CAA issued licence and have since converted it to a JAR 66 issued in the Netherlands. A conversation followed with 'the man from the CAA', in which he stated much displeasure to my 'changing sides'. I told him simply for a number of reasons I went to another country, and a major consideration was pronounced CASH. He then wanted to quote chapter and verse until he got to the first line stating something like ' A licence holder may have a licence issued by any JAA member state........' He went rather quiet at this point.

So, men and girls, look around who will give you the cheapest licence. They all carry the same value no matter how they are presented.

[Jibroni]

I had a UK CAA A&C and now also hold FAA A&P. With my UK CAA A&C expired over a yr now is there any chance of getting it reactivated and what is the requirements.

[spannersatcx]

Might be a bit late: from the CAA website - All certifying staff must hold a Part-66 licence by 28 September 2008. In order to continue certifyng aircraft above 5700kg engineers must have converted to a Part-66 by 28 September 2006.

This may of been extended, but as your licence has expired by more than a year you might well find you are too late for conversion, best thing is to call the CAA. Where have you been?

[Jibroni]

Thanks for the info spannerstax.

I got my A&C back in 80's and was endorsed in many parts of ASIA and i've kept it alive just up to now. Now working in USA.

[A Bunker]

:rolleyes:
Hi guys,

All very interesting but, could anyone tell me if the FAA recognise the EASA part 66 licence,or should I say;
If I got a job in uncle Sam's country working on N registered aircraft ,would I have to sit the A&P exams to get the licence?
I currently hold a B1 with four type endorsments.

[spannersatcx]

No and yes

[A Bunker]

thanks but,does anyone know where I can find the write up on that.
i mean other than writting to the FAA.

Cheers

[Jibroni]

Your B1 with type endorsements will only get you an FAA "sign off" so you can attempt the 3 part FAA exams without going thru class room instructions for the "New kids on the block."

I got UK CAA, SQ DCA, MH DCA and UAE DGCA Section L endorsements for B744/3,777/767/757/737 & A320,330,340 a/c types...almost everything under the sun and when i came over to US all i got was a sign off and had to do the exams.I did get my FAA A&P.

BCAR Sec L when i did it, the syllabus for reciprocating engines,wood and fabric aircraft construction and rotorcraft were not covered. But in FAA A&P's they still are.