Another Pax booted off a flight

[Islander Jock]

Man kicked off plane for bad behaviour


December 31, 2007 03:56pm
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A PERTH man has had an unscheduled stop on an Indian Ocean island after unacceptable behaviour during a plane flight.

The 23-year-old man had been on a flight from Perth to Christmas Island when he was escorted from the plane at Cocos Island about 1am on Saturday for being drunk and allegedly smoking in the plane's toilet, an Australian Federal Police spokesman said.
Cocos Island, an Australian territory, lies about 1000km south of Sumatra in Indonesia.
"On the scheduled stop on Cocos Island, they've had him removed from the plane and that is where he has been charged with the offences," the spokesman said.
The man appeared before Cocos Island Court and was bailed to reappear there on March 12 on charges of carrying weapons, namely two box cutters, and smoking on a plane.
The weapons charges were made under the Transport Aviation Security Act.
If this was an RPT service and the pax had been through screening I would be hoping to see some screening officers swinging for letting cutting knives through!!!

Just check NJS website and the Christmas Island via Learmonth and Cocos is definately an RPT service. Well if the report is true, I'd say a screening contract is going to be up for bid soon. :E

[gas-chamber]

And if he was drunk before the flight, the boarding agent should also swing. If he got drunk on the flight, the cabin manager should swing. And if he's just feral anyway he should travel to the islands by trawler, not airplane. It is time airlines had a blacklist of these turkeys, circulated via some sort of data base with a collective agreement to ban them for certain periods depending on the severity of their misbehavior.

[Islander Jock]

c'mon Gas Chamber,
If you banned all the ferals and bogans from flying on RPTas well as closed mining charters, the flights would be lucky to operate at 50% capacity.

I think it would be difficult to point the finger at the boarding agent if the said pax displayed no obvious signs of intoxication during checkin or boarding. Lets not foreget the thousands of pax who are able to go through check in and screening and get a free skin full at the Q club prior to boarding. You can have pax sitting quietly in their seat maybe enjoying one or two drinks when all of a sudden something tips them over the edge.

My issue isn't so much that he was a bit p1ssed and tried to have a sly dhurrie in the loo :ugh: (he should probably be jailed just for his stupidity in that regard). More to the point is, did he in fact have box cutter type blades in his carry on? The very items that had a big influence in determining the current security restrictions on aircraft. The security company carrying out the screening should be answering some questions.

[gas-chamber]

I did qualify my comments with the 'if' word. Too many times in my career I have seen drunks on board who got thru just because the boarding agents wanted to get the show on the road. Off-loads mean bags have to be found in the bottom of the cargo hold and cause delays. And I have had cabin crew ply the punters with p!ss then come bleating when someone plays grab-ass, or suggests a game of hide-the-sausage.

[Mr. Hat]

xyz minesite, 40C, 7:45am, sealtbelt sign on, destination perth, *DING* "beam n coke"

top of descent *DING* "beam n coke"


seriously you' ve got to wonder what these people do when they go out for a night on the town if thats just a trip on a plane...

[Whiskey Oscar Golf]

Christmas Island is one big fat mine so shouldn't be too hard to figure where he's from. As to the booking agent picking up the intoxication maybe all that duty free liquor got into him after checking through. From memory the security check is not that regulated but they do have the xrays so someone is in for it.

I like the database idea though, one charge and from now on it's the boat.

[fallen]

From memory the security check is not that regulated but they do have the xrays so someone is in for it.
From the quoted news item he was traveling from Perth. So I'm assuming he went through screening with the box cutters at Perth. Very easy to get some types of box cutters through a screening point without being detected.

plane at Cocos Island about 1amI think they mean 1pm

[Islander Jock]

Spoke to some screening people and if the alleged box cutter was the type in a plastic handle then depending on the angle of the blade through the x-ray, they can be very difficult to pick up.

[wessex19]

please correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't a box cutter one of the implements used in the September 11 hijackings??

[Towering Q]

seriously you' ve got to wonder what these people do when they go out for a night on the town if thats just a trip on a plane...

Good question, Mr Hat.

For some of these clowns alcohol is like oxygen or water, you simply can't survive without it.:rolleyes:

[Barkly1992]

WOG

This might come as a bit of a surprise to you, but Christams Isalnd has a major contruction underway for new immigration detention centre, has an old one with some people in it and looked after by private contactors; has a major government presence; including airport support; school; hospital; and regular visists from the military.

As of 2006, the estimated population is 1,493. (The Australian Bureau of Statistics reports a population of 1,508 as of the 2001 Census.)
The ethnic composition is 70% Chinese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Chinese), 20% European (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe) and 10% Malay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malays_%28ethnic_group%29). Religions practised on Christmas Island include Buddhism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism) 75%, Christianity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity) 12%, Islam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam) 7% and others 4%. English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language) is the official language, but Chinese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_language) and Malay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_language) are also spoken.

Mining is no longer the big deal it was.

[VH-XXX]

Security at regional airports is (still a joke).

At Hervey bay where I was recently, everyone bar QantasLink (Sunstate) passengers were screened, but QantasLink passengers can carry an AK47 under their jumper on board and enter Brisbane etc. However from memory, to "re-enter" the domestic terminal at Brisbane, security screening is required as it's a seperate area.

[heated ice detector]

The security for Xmas island flights is the same as all other Perth international departures,
The same charter company transported the SAS to Xmas Island during the infamous Tampa debacle and I understand the Troopers were made to put their rifles through the xray machine, which suggests to me that the security is top notch.

[topend3]

At Hervey bay where I was recently, everyone bar QantasLink (Sunstate) passengers were screened, but QantasLink passengers can carry an AK47 under their jumper on board and enter Brisbane etc. However from memory, to "re-enter" the domestic terminal at Brisbane, security screening is required as it's a seperate area.

RPT turboprop services remain unscreened under the regs, so does jet charter...it's all a bit crazy especially as jets (ERJ-170) are getting smaller and props (Q400) are getting bigger. And theres a lot of jet charter flying into major airports unscreened. All of which the department is apparently "looking at"...

[Jabawocky]

Putting the SAS guys through security....that appeals to my sense of humour. These guys are trained to kill with nothing more than a mintie wrapper......and not be in the same room!!!!

Well almost...you get the idea.

As for Hervey bay....I did an Angel Flight through there.....and my ASIC was looked at......not thoroughly inspected but they guy looked before letting me wander back to the plane.

J:ugh:

PS Drunk and unruly beahvior should not be tolerated in public or private, and never on an a/c. Its a pity you can't eject the b@stards at altitude over the Indian ocean, save us all a heap of money processing the fools later. If people were actually made 100% acountable for thir own stupidity a lot of folk might actually think for a change, and some might think twice!:mad:

[Max Talk]

Most of the boozed and bad mannered passengers I have seen are more likely to be having trouble covering the fact that they are s*** scared of flying, so fill up on a dose of dutch courage to make up for their chicken livers. Only trouble with that is that they make such an absolute fool of themselves that they don't know when to back off. Last one I had received a "pleasant interview" from the local Mr Plod, in front of the rest of the passengers at the foot of the steps, on his arrival into MA.
The State Police applied a total ban on his flying anywhere anytime for 12 months.
:O

[apache]

yeah, well.... I am Sh!T scared of feeding crocodiles with my bare hands... so I DON'T do it!!!! I don't go and get drunk and THEN think "hey lets go and put my hand near a crocodiles mouth!"

no excuse in my books.

[Pinky the pilot]

Sometimes I think that it is indeed a pity that drunk/unruly passengers cannot be dealt with in the manner I once saw back in PNG.

I had a pax on board my aircraft who was a bit 'mouthy' when leaving Woitape for Port Morbid but I chose to ignore him. However shortly after take off I glanced at him and noted that he was really starting to mouth off at the other passengers and, when he saw me looking at him, he stated that I should just fly ''his'' aircraft as he was giving the orders!!!

At that, I stood the aircraft on its wingtip and returned to Woitape, doing a straight-in approach.:= As I shut down, our company agent walked over looking somewhat concerned. I just walked to the rear passenger door, opened it and pointed to the drunk with the words
''This man is drunk. Get him off my aircraft''

What happened next was spectacular and somewhat violent! Seemingly out of nowhere, about four or five somewhat muscular locals descended on the drunk, dragged him out of the aircraft and proceeded to punch and kick the bejaysus out of him!! They then dragged him away from the aircraft by his feet with several other locals joining in laying fists and feet into him.

I never saw him again.

[John Eacott]

pinky,

How I wish ;) Many moons ago operating a Wessex offshore from Derby, the rig workers would arrive on the red eye from Perth about 07:30. One delayed flight arrived with one guy so p1ssed that his mates were carrying him to the helicopter for a 5 hour trip overwater with them in the cabin alone, one big sliding door, and me up top driving. Needless to say I left him behind :ok:

Wrong! At the end of the day I was shredded by the Perth Manager for "upsetting Woodside, a very valuable customer". I often wonder how upset they'd have been if the drunk had got up for a snakes and fallen out of the door into the oggin, from 4000 feet :rolleyes:

[Ref + 10]

I dare say John, that that would no longer be the case.

Many mine workers have been sacked by their respective companies for unruly behaviour on their contract flights. A security guard contracted in by a mine operator to supervise the weekly gold run was recently removed from any flying duty after giving the flightie a spray because "she was the just flightie and wasn't gunna tell him what to do" (it was somewhat more colourful than that).

I know of about three mine workers sacked by their respective companies over the past four to six months due to unruly behaviour towards check-in and in-flight staff members.

[Checkerboard]

In defence of the flight attendants on this flight:

The word is that he had consumed half a bottle of Jim Beam that he had stashed as duty free without the flight attendants knowing.

[Toolman101]

The 'Gentleman' concerned in this incident was VERY quiet and subdued when he completed his trip to Chrismas Island the next day, having been a guest of the cocos police overnight.:D

[Mr. Hat]

Oh Pinky thats gold!

He'll never misbehave on a flight ever again...actually i think h'll be on his best behaviour everywhere!!

[Brasilian Bird]

Ok... correct me if I am wrong... and this is just a bit of 'what if' on my part... BUT... is backed up by facts I have been told by many aircrew who pass thru this port...

NJS stop in Learmonth for fuel on the way to Xmas/Cocos... iirc, pax wait in the terminal. It is WELL known by crew that the person serving the booze in this airport is less then - ahem- strict- with application of Responsible Service guidelines. Wondering if this could possibly have contributed in any way???? I have known of more than a few pax who have been booted from flights departing here, for this very reason, frequent calls to local coppers, abuse to hosties, etc... perhaps a pattern??

Surprised about the box cutter though. My guess it, it has got through in Perth, as the security staff in Learmonth seem to love confiscating everything from tweezers to long-tailed combs and suchlike that the ladies tend to carry...!!!! :}

[Pinky the pilot]

He'll never misbehave on a flight ever again

He certainly won't Mr Hat! I heard much later a rumour that he was ''no longer with us!'':uhoh::eek::hmm:

It was PNG, remember.

[Mr. Hat]

He certainly won't Mr Hat! I heard much later a rumour that he was ''no longer with us!''


as a result of the beating? PNG pretty serious place i suspect. I saw something on tv the other day that said it was possibly one of the most dangerous places on earth...

[viper8]

passengers that are in transit in learmonth on the way to the islands cant actually have access to the area where they serve alcoholand are only there for 20 mins.