Donkey497
30th Dec 2007, 11:28
Folks,
I may be barking up the wrong tree here, but I've been doing a fair amount of transatlantic flying recently, all of it in Y class as it's been for business. What has puzzled me is the prices that I have paid have made little if any sense.
I appreciate that the factors which influence the costs of a flight will include the current costs of fuel, crew costs, airframe finance & maintenance charges, overheads and airport landing & navigation charges as well as the odd premium for flights which are at prime vacation periods at either end. The price I have paid for using the exactly the same flights on the same days from EDI to IAH on a regular basis have ranged from under £400 to over £1300.
However, doing some digging recently I came across some information that the cost model for transatlantic flights is based on filling the business and first class zones at full fare, this being expected to cover all costs of the flight. The fares that are then collected for economy class are then effectively the profit for each flight.
Looking historically, maybe the first ten or so years of these routes would have been predominantly business travel, but I cannot see how this cost model, if true, can be legitmately applied today in the LoCo operator environment. Surely it would make more sense (& perhaps more profit) to rework the cost model based on 2/3 economy class take-up (with a premium economy layout), combined with a 1/3 business and first class take-up. Flat rate for each ticket class and stand by tickets, regardless of day of travel & duration of stay. Fair enough, add a premium for peak periods, but this should be a reasonable figure and should be easily understood from the ticket / booking service.
I know that many companies (except banks & Governments, who are really only spending our money anyway) have a blanket ban on using business & first class across the Atlantic due to the costs of business and first class on this route & this might be a way to reduce these costs to a reasonable level, thus allowing an expansion of the number of business seats on each flight, increasing revenue possibilities for the airlines.
Anyone got any comments?
I may be barking up the wrong tree here, but I've been doing a fair amount of transatlantic flying recently, all of it in Y class as it's been for business. What has puzzled me is the prices that I have paid have made little if any sense.
I appreciate that the factors which influence the costs of a flight will include the current costs of fuel, crew costs, airframe finance & maintenance charges, overheads and airport landing & navigation charges as well as the odd premium for flights which are at prime vacation periods at either end. The price I have paid for using the exactly the same flights on the same days from EDI to IAH on a regular basis have ranged from under £400 to over £1300.
However, doing some digging recently I came across some information that the cost model for transatlantic flights is based on filling the business and first class zones at full fare, this being expected to cover all costs of the flight. The fares that are then collected for economy class are then effectively the profit for each flight.
Looking historically, maybe the first ten or so years of these routes would have been predominantly business travel, but I cannot see how this cost model, if true, can be legitmately applied today in the LoCo operator environment. Surely it would make more sense (& perhaps more profit) to rework the cost model based on 2/3 economy class take-up (with a premium economy layout), combined with a 1/3 business and first class take-up. Flat rate for each ticket class and stand by tickets, regardless of day of travel & duration of stay. Fair enough, add a premium for peak periods, but this should be a reasonable figure and should be easily understood from the ticket / booking service.
I know that many companies (except banks & Governments, who are really only spending our money anyway) have a blanket ban on using business & first class across the Atlantic due to the costs of business and first class on this route & this might be a way to reduce these costs to a reasonable level, thus allowing an expansion of the number of business seats on each flight, increasing revenue possibilities for the airlines.
Anyone got any comments?