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hoggsnortrupert
24th Dec 2007, 23:13
IS NOT TOO COMMON ANY MORE:
I Leave the theory to you, who will give first, this is created by non other than management/ Bean counters.
Be interesting to see what happens at Air NZ as well:
Qantas offers NZ engineers $100,000 as strike breakers
The Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association (ALAEA) today confirmed news reports that Qantas was scouting for aircraft engineers in New Zealand amid concerns of strike action from their current workers.
The airline did not deny that it was drafting an alternative engineering workforce, or the union's claims of the $100,000 salaries on offer.
"We are pursuing a variety of contingency arrangements to ensure our passengers can travel with confidence in January," a company spokesman said.
"We have nothing further to add at this stage."
Qantas is offering its former engineers, some made redundant as little as a year ago, jobs as strike breakers with a $A100,000 ($NZ114,025) salary for just six months work, a union says.
The former workers were also being told they would be paid even if the strikes threatened by the ALAEA did not eventuate, the ALAEA said.
The news comes ahead of crucial talks between the airline and the ALAEA on January 4 over a protracted pay dispute, and threats of nationwide four-hour stop work meetings from January 9 if the union's pay rise demand is not met.
An ALAEA spokesman today said the airline was preparing to pay out millions of dollars to strike breakers, offering more than double pay for six months work, while denying its existing workforce a five percent raise.
The airline has a rival offer of three percent on the table.
"Qantas has been contacting people who were retrenched last year," ALAEA spokesman Steve Re said today.
"A (engineer) mate of mine rang me up on Friday saying he had been contacted by an agency who has work in Sydney for ... $100,000 for six months.
"Then I had a phone call on our answering machine this morning from another ex-Sydney heavy maintenance employee who was retrenched last year.
"He said `I've just been offered $100,000 to work for Qantas for six months and they said they will pay even if they're not used'." Mr Re said a ballot of ALAEA members showed an overwhelming 87 percent were in support of the phased industrial action if there was no resolution at the January 4 meeting.
It would involve up to 1700 aircraft engineers nationwide, he said, starting with a ban on overtime when engineers would also not work outside of their normal duties.
"The (four-hour) stop works are only if Qantas takes adverse action against any of our members for partaking in that protected industrial action," Mr Re said.
The nationwide stop work meetings have the potential to temporarily ground all Qantas flights, as their jets can only take off once they have been cleared by a licensed engineer.
It threatens to be largest disruption to the nation's air travel since the 1989 pilots' strike, which threw thousands of holiday makers' plans into chaos.
Chr's H/Snort

mainwheel
25th Dec 2007, 01:49
Depends on what you want at the end of the day, the results. This is just a contingency move, and one of many moves like a game of chess.
I would advise strongly against mass resignations.:=

yamaha
25th Dec 2007, 09:04
The reason we all have a limited hour week, holidays and health care is due to unions, many forget that fact. You would not want to work under conditions in place just over a 100 years or so ago.

The secret of course is for unions not to allow their powers to become mercenary and serve individual goals. (UK Car industry 1970's)

The Qantas issue I have been following closely and the union is fully justified in this action. If anything they have taken too long. Any individual taking up the desperate offer by Qantas management may well achieve a short term gain for themselves but undermines everybody's future not just at Qantas but industry wide.

Well done to the inhouse union, well done to it's members for the massive signal of support the ballot provided. Will this absolutely critical and necessary action be undermined by individuals who cannot see the bigger picture.

I sincerely hope not. Good luck to you all.

mainwheel
25th Dec 2007, 14:13
You would have to be a fool as an ex employee or new starter not sign such an agreement. Minimum payment $100,000 for 6 months and they may not need you!!. When has anyone ever been made this offer, if it is actually true.
Make a ton for maybe doing nothing, and timely enough the old back has been playing up IF they want a start date.
Can't see how you would lose. Who to contact??:D

yamaha
25th Dec 2007, 14:23
@mainwheel

you lose you fool because it pushes industry one step closer to its goal:

pushing terms and conditions backwards.

So even if you are a single cell idiot who takes the offer up. Your next job if you get one will be that much lower paid.

There really is one born every minute:ugh:

mainwheel
25th Dec 2007, 15:03
YMHA,

They are supposedly offering this to retirees's so there is no next job. A 100K for maybe doing nothing!!!

I can't see where the word Fool comes into it. Only not to sign up.

sturner
25th Dec 2007, 22:14
i agree with yamaha..mainwheel you are a fool....why should qantas engineers accept a woefull 3% pay rise (which is below inflation) when the big wigs (dixon,cox,gregg....etc) receive massive pay rises and bonuses at a time when Qantas is making record profits...the Lames and the rest of the peasents on the shop floor are the people who are generating these profits and are treated with contempt.Anyone who accepts the offer from Qantas as strike breeakers..hang your head in shame..

mainwheel
26th Dec 2007, 01:24
You have both misread my post.

Scenario, a guy signs on for the Ton and nothing happens. He wins.

If something was to happen, it just coincides his back is playing up again and can't go in, a big sorry to Mr QF. He dosen't get his $$$.

Totally agree with you about MGMT getting the benefits that should at least be shared on an equal basis with all staff.