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Buster Hyman
12th Dec 2007, 01:40
New Antarctic A319 (http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/bscienceb-antarctic-air-shuttle-becomes-reality/2007/12/11/1197135463231.html) service!

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/12/11/rgn_antarctic_wideweb__470x313,0.jpg

tinpis
12th Dec 2007, 02:03
Any golden boys from AN driving Buster?

con-pilot
12th Dec 2007, 02:07
Actually once the temperature drops below a certain point you can get friction for braking on ice. I have forgotten what degree. I have landed 727s on snow/ice packed runways and had moderately good braking; as in fair.

pigboat
12th Dec 2007, 04:15
Wonder if Compressor Stall is on that run? Last I heard from him he was hoping to be checked on the 319.

Connie I seem to remember the temperature was around -20C. Nordair and a couple of other operators used to run the 737 and L188 onto ice strips in the Arctic. I have a picture somewhere of a G1 parked beside an oil rig in the Beaufort Sea. They'd overnight there, had heaters and engine blankets and stuff to keep everything warm.

(How'd you make out in that ice storm? Just watching it on the news, what a frickin mess.)

Buster Hyman
12th Dec 2007, 04:49
NFI tinny...but I reckon some would be used to receptions like that....:ooh::=

I see they pulled up in 1k on a 4k runway. Would drag chutes be a handy addition Con?:confused:

Juud
12th Dec 2007, 10:08
Mr Pigboat, our mate Connie has chronicled his Ice Storm Adventures on the TRRAB (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=283554&page=150) in word and picture. Start reading from post 5998.
Quite a story.

Upon first glance I thought this thread might refer to the very handy lady's overcoat I saw in Spain a while back. It had an anti-skid left shoulder.
Which in one stroke of genius kills the eternal female challenge of handbag-sliding-off-left-shoulder-hike-it-back-up-again. :ok:
Guess I was wrong. ;)


Still, we had the A380 at Olso yesterday, testing its abilities in freezing fog.

http://tinyurl.com/2qtn2r

Life's a Beech
12th Dec 2007, 17:57
Con-Pilot

It would depend on your tyre (or 'tire' your side of the Atlantic) pressure. It would be the temperature at which water freezes at the pressure exerted by the wheels, so the ice doesn't melt (it is the ice melting due to pressure that causes the very low friction on ice). That pressure is approximately equal to the pressure of the nitrogen in the tyres.

The Flying Pram
12th Dec 2007, 19:53
There's another thread about this here (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=304267)

Howard Hughes
12th Dec 2007, 21:42
Still, we had the A380 at Olso yesterday, testing its abilities in freezing fog.
But where is the freezing fog? Looks like a perfect winters day to me!:ok:

Buster Hyman
13th Dec 2007, 00:41
Well, the freezing fog got too heavy to float, so it fell to the ground & looks like ice...

Next question Howard?

There's another thread about this here (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=304267)
Prammy, that looks like a Nerds thread. We ask the important stuff on this one...just look at Howards question!:ok:

Howard Hughes
13th Dec 2007, 00:47
We ask the important stuff on this one...
What colour are the seats?;)

I don't wanna hang with nerds, I'd much rather hang out with funny men (and women) like Buster!:ok:

compressor stall
13th Dec 2007, 01:21
Wasn't on board - watched it all from the ground. It went very well. Did the checkout this year and will be on board for the last half of the austral summer. :8

Howard Hughes
13th Dec 2007, 01:28
Sounds tough Stallie! It's a far cry from that clapped out red, white & black 402 you used to drive in Darwin!;)

All the best!:ok:

Buster Hyman
13th Dec 2007, 01:48
Ahh, I'm glad you asked Howard....coz I have NFI!

Speaking of colours, why would you leave it white? Or, is that red stripe sufficient to spot from the air...just in case?:uhoh:

Howard Hughes
13th Dec 2007, 02:01
Ahh the important questions!

The red stripe actually looks like a 'tide mark'...;)

Buster Hyman
13th Dec 2007, 02:15
"If the ice gets up to here, take off is NOT advised!":ooh:

(in French of course!)

Howard Hughes
13th Dec 2007, 02:19
"You must be this tall, to ride on this ride"!;)

pigboat
13th Dec 2007, 02:36
Way to go Stallie, congratulations buddy! :ok:

tinpis
13th Dec 2007, 06:41
Rejected TO be fun
V1 about 25 kts? :hmm:

They play "The Skaters Waltz" on the PA? http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/tinpis/anim_cryingwithlaughter.gif

con-pilot
13th Dec 2007, 21:25
Neat little video I just found, don't think the anti-skid would come into use here. Sorry about the music.

http://my.break.com/Content/view.aspx?ContentID=416701

Buster Hyman
13th Dec 2007, 21:45
Now, if we substituted the ice for a conveyor belt and... :ouch: