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[general2001]

hear prime are recruiting for ema have new head bag

[euroboy]

"Head Bag" to put it, is an excellent boss, very fair, and does not put up with c**p. Very good knowledge of aviation. Don`t try pulling the wool over her eyes.....

I heard Prime are recruiting but it is not for full time employment, its a type of support cabin crew position. Work will be available as and when required by the company.

[starship]

So what contracts do Prime have lined up? Someone who was previously offered Cabin Services Manager with Prime said that it would be an excellent number, but there was just no work. (Understandably, due to the present global situation). Was there not crews made redundant just a while ago? Would be interested, Euroboy, to find out who the new CSM is......has she been working out of the country recently?

Good luck to all at Prime....I always like to see an outfit with a difference make a success of things! :cool:

Cheers,

starship :)

[flyingtortoise]

isnt prime part of the air foyle and hevylift venture? as seems they are having problems like most others and with laying staff off and asking others to take pay cut,

[MinimumRest]

Yes indeed Prime are part of that venture and, yes also they have just laid a number of staff off @ EMA. The work is standby only, the basic is average but the allowences good, so you can only earn decent money if you're busy. And they're not. Know someone employed there for three months, only did 2 week long trips (BGI?) and a 3 or 4 day Dubai. Hope this helps.

[UFGBOY]

A true professional - only line trainer I know to do the tray slide - a good example to us all

'I used to work with the Norfolk nine and I'm here to help you' :D

[flyingtortoise]

I heard that line trainer was made redundant and the only other one is now leaving, so where does that leave the training department

[euroboy]

StarShip

Nope. The CSM has not worked abroad. Been very UK in fact.

As for Line Trainers heard one was not too good, and there are no shortage of excellent trainers around. Being a very small airline, the CSM would be able to train for a short time. And excellent she would be.

[ 16 December 2001: Message edited by: euroboy ]

[flyingtortoise]

the CAA may have something to say about her training as not checked on aircraft type

[euroboy]

Think you may find you don`t need to be checked out on an aircraft type to train in the classroom. Of course it does help make training easier. And if you are pointing to the new CSM @ Prime they have been checked out the other weekend. You only need a sector.
The new CSM @ Prime does know what is what, and been on the block a while. She has more ablity to train than most, including SEP, recurrent First Aid, Secruity, service. The CAA are very much aware of the CSM ablities, and have known her from previous airlines.

[ 18 December 2001: Message edited by: euroboy ]

[irishcc]

Why did PRime find it necessary to recruit this woman, when they had a perfectly capable person there already.
A spectacular crew member, vast experience on the A300, wrote part of the training program - trained new crew - and after all that she gets shafted by management.
Another crew member, also a NO1, helped with training and so on, has also resigned, and returned to DUB.
The new Manager, has no experience on the A300, and from what I hear, little experience with in the ad hoc market.
How can PRIME survive with only a handful of crew available - if a contract arose tomorrow, they could not complete it.

Also believe they will face competition from next year when another A300 operator will base their aircraft at MAN !

[HalesAndPace]

Oh, irishcc!! and after all that she gets shafted by management

Is that why she got pregnant, or were you the one to blame?? That's why she left!! And do you mean the No1 who has resigned, apparently to go to Farnair as CSM - presumably the A300 MAN operator (Farnair/Eagle)? I know this site is for rumours, but the facts often help.... :D :D :D

[euroboy]

"This woman" was probably recruited because she was good, and has experience.
The new CSM has lots of experience in both charter and schedule operations, been an AOC holder for at least 2 other airlines.
Her experience is mainly on charter work and adhoc charter is very little difference.
With all due respect as you notch up the years one tends to find most aircraft fairly simliar to another. And the new CSM has many years of experience on wide body jets. The A300 will be another type on her belt.

In the same breath I can not help notice that some peoples lack of experience is showing through, and have no idea of what are the correct procedures in training, and general information regarding management in an airline.
What you guys have to realise is that the airline you once worked for is dead and gone, and trying to rebuild that company in this new airline does not work. Also, believe it or not, however hard it is for you, and I really find this difficult to say BUT. The airline can continue without you. No company I have ever worked for went out of business because I left it. (And I`m bloody wonderful as well :)) In this present climite the employer can call the shots. Just look at your Irish low cost airline back in DUB.
All airlines are having difficulties. You have the likes of Swissair, Sabena gone. Even the likes of BA-once in BA you`re safe is no longer true.
The new CSM has been crew orientated in other airlines, and no doubt she will be in Prime. She will be willing to help you, guide you and she is worth listening, watching and learning from. Its unfortuate, that these time have been difficult for everyone, but please stop showing your bittereness because the NEW CABIN CREW MANAGER does know what she is doing and how to do it.

[ 18 December 2001: Message edited by: euroboy ]

[flyingtortoise]

Irish CC well said,Euroboy is more than likely looking for a job or maybe already brown nosing the new csm ?

ad hoc is nothing like normal charter work ie bucket and spade.

just glad i am not on aircraft that is being op by someone who is not checked on aircraft what does it say about the rest of them

[general2001]

Children temper tantrums, you all seem as bad as each other, give them a chance only the fittest will survive. Euroboy check your facts before spouting off

[euroboy]

Oh tortoise I`m really not interested in working for Prime or any other adhoc airline, with little in the way of perks, and possible lack of work, together with taking a wee pay cut.
I have done a few adhoc flights and if you want to call it special then I`ll let you. :rolleyes:
I hope you manage to find another job with the aviation industry soon, its been a tough couple of months.

general my facts are checked, and what I have said in previous posts are correct. BUT I`m willing to be enlightened on anything which is incorrect and look forward to constructive feedback.

[ 19 December 2001: Message edited by: euroboy ]

[irishcc]

hey thanx

Still nothing to say that PRIME wont just abuse the "talents" of this woman - and make her redundant also !!!!!!

[Mr Angry from Purley]

Hales and Pace - Come clean and tell us how many times the Prime A300 has left EMA since 01/11/01.

[flyingtortoise]

Irish that is very possible she will be used and abused, but if euroboy is right she seems strong enough to stand up for herself.Will need to as the DFO is slightly insane to say the least.And presume she reports to him.

[stockingtop]

are the cabin crew getting hit with the pay cut as understand it is all on minimum wage take the cut for so called 4 months, anyhow with GO coming to EMA you should all be ok for JOBS but will not do recruit much good for Prime <img src="mad.gif" border="0"> <img src="mad.gif" border="0"> <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[stockingtop]

is the new course still going ahead when the aircraft is parked and money not available <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

[vincecrosbie]

Brilliant how the idea of Farnair basing A300 at MAN this year just kinda "pops up"!. .If you like the idea, that's fine, just don't hold your breath waiting on it.... and erm, no-one has joined Farnair as CSM - sorry to disappoint. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

[HalesAndPace]

New Prime course finished today!!!! <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="cool.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

[freightdoggy dog]

Farnair......Swiss owned, Dutch AOC, Allowances paid in US$ to bank a/c in Jersey, A/C mortgaged to a company on an island in the South Pacific........sounds more like Happylift to me. PS HP hows the Translift/Transaer Portakabin in Takely have the Pikeys left? <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

[HalesAndPace]

FDD, very cosy, thank you! Nice having private parking slot, and very handy for the chippy on the corner. Got your haggis yet for Burns Night? <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

[darkstar_45]

Looks like the old Prime bus is off for a weeks worth of flying as of tomorrow.. .Good to see the old girls got some work at last

[irishcc]

WHERE IS SHE OFF TO ?

[darkstar_45]

CDG-SXF a couple of times. .CGN-PRN-CGN . .EMA-SVQ-EMA

[freightdoggy dog]

HP, aye I have been rambling strange invocations. .to me wee 'roadkill'. A private parking place without a 1/2 mile walk to Cpt Kirks house, sheer. .luxury lad. Where are the TU204s heading then?

[HalesAndPace]

FDD, LGG, where else?? :)

[gag]

HalesnPace - confirm how many times the Prime A300. .has flown the nest this Winter. Offering bets of less than 12 times in 4 months?

[HalesAndPace]

Nice try, Miss BMI! As if you would get commercially sensitive information that easily! Thank you for your concern!! <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

[happygolucky]

any of you guys involved with the latest round of letters saying goodbye, try to keep it going