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pa-18
21st Nov 2007, 17:56
Hi.
I`ve recently bought a share in a Piper Cub, PA-18-95.
Back in the -50s it served with the french army aviation also called ALAT. I have tried to search the internet for pictures of how our aircraft was painted, but with no luck. Are there anyone with some links or pictures of L-18c which served ALAT? Or anyone with lists of the links between aircraft serial number and military codes?

Answears would be appreciated. :)

Best Regards,
PA-18 Norway

the incivil beast
21st Nov 2007, 20:47
Some stories & pics on aerostories.free.fr (in French)

http://aerostories.free.fr/events/algerie/algerie02/page2.html
http://aerostories2.free.fr/goodies/screens/algerie/

Moose47
21st Nov 2007, 20:54
G'day

Check these sites out.

Cheers...Chris

http://www.leendejagertweewielers.nl/fly/piper.htm

http://www.planepictures.net/netsearch4.cgi?offset=165&range=15&stype=actype&toprange=&srch=Piper+PA-18-95+Super+Cub&tr=243&srng=2&action=Next+matches+%3E%3E

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=370103

tornadoken
22nd Nov 2007, 08:26
http://www.alat.fr/page7.html

pa-18
22nd Nov 2007, 14:15
Thanks a lot so far..

Anyone know who might have information about military codes aft on the fuselage vs construction number?

Best regards,
PA-18

MReyn24050
22nd Nov 2007, 14:52
Can you let us know what these markings are and then perhaps we can advise? What is the constructor's number of the aircraft of which you are a part owner?

pa-18
22nd Nov 2007, 16:25
The serialnumber is 18-1342.
USAAF PI-51-15342


PA-18

MReyn24050
22nd Nov 2007, 17:21
I am not quite sure what you are referring too?
Anyone know who might have information about military codes aft on the fuselage vs construction number?


As I understand it , as I am sure you also do, that the 51-15342 is the United States Serial Number. The 51 indicates the year the Serial no was allocated . in this case 1951. the 15342 is the consecutive number within the batch allocated for the Piper PA-18 ordered that year.
C/N 18-1342 is the Piper construction number for that build of aeroplane.

This aircraft I believe became the property of the Luftsportgruppe in Ravensburg in Apr 1971 as D-EAEQ. It was later registered LN-NAV 21st May 1975.

pa-18
22nd Nov 2007, 18:35
That is correct, MReyn24050. We know the civil history of our plane, but its the french paintscheme`s which are the most appealing to us. Thats were the challange starts. Exact markings of the aircraft would be marvelous to have. :-) But we don`t know if it has been in Algeria or in France.

But again, thanks so far in this puzzle.

Best Regards,
PA-18

MReyn24050
22nd Nov 2007, 19:03
The following link and subsequent pages explains the system of codes used by the French Army in respect of these aircraft. Unfortunately it is in French but I am sure you could get a translation.
http://www.alat.fr/page770.html

ancientaviator62
23rd Nov 2007, 07:36
pa-18,
I once co owned a Super cub which was ex ALAT (French Army Air Arm in English). We were given permission by the French to put it back into it's Mil colours.We went to The museum at Dax to research it and to authenticate the colour scheme. Although we had a super cub I am sure the scheme would be very similar to yours. I will try to dig out a pic and send it to you.

pa-18
23rd Nov 2007, 20:38
ancientaviator62, that would be nice.
Are there any photos of this aircraft on the web?

Best Regards,
PA18

ancientaviator62
24th Nov 2007, 08:05
pa-18,
struggling to find the pics, they must be in the loft so will look this weekend. I do not know where you live but 'our' cub was last seen at Breighton with thr Real Aeroplane Co. Might be worth a look if you are close. Also there was a small pic of it on their website.

pa-18
24th Nov 2007, 16:05
Im living in Norway so its a bit to travel. :-)
But your cub looked good, indeed.


Best Regards,

PA-18

ancientaviator62
5th Dec 2007, 10:34
pa-18,
apologies for the delay in posting but i had my flu jab and it seemed to react. I have looked in the loft but the photos elude me. But what I did find was a copy of the report on our cub written for the OCT 98 EDITION of Pilot magazine. If you would like this I can send you the article which has about a dozen pics of the cub.

pa-18
5th Dec 2007, 11:05
ancientaviator62,
that would be great. Check PM.

pa-18

ancientaviator62
6th Dec 2007, 12:32
PA-18,
I have replied via e- mail and will keep looking for the pics. They may have gone the way of a lot of my Hercules AAR and airdrop pics, lost in the various moves whilst in the RAF.

pa-18
8th Dec 2007, 18:13
Hello again.

I have`nt got an email from you. Could you please try to send it again?
It would be great to have that article in hand.

Best regards,
PA-18

TractorMatt
10th Jul 2017, 12:35
pa-18,
I once co owned a Super cub which was ex ALAT (French Army Air Arm in English). We were given permission by the French to put it back into it's Mil colours.We went to The museum at Dax to research it and to authenticate the colour scheme. Although we had a super cub I am sure the scheme would be very similar to yours. I will try to dig out a pic and send it to you.

Hi, I too have access to a Super Cub and am trying to dig out as much history as possible. Any help from the experts on here would be greatly appreciated!
Currently registered as G-BEUU
Previously registered as F-BOUU
Serial number 18-1551

Any idea where I can find a more detailed military history?

Thanks in advance for your help!

megan
11th Jul 2017, 01:44
Only history I have.

51-15511 (MSN 18-1511) to French Army as 181628, then to OO-SPK, then OO-HBS. Presumably now sold to owner in Germany as registration D-EATY reserved January 2003. Registered earlier this year (2003) to Base Hoogeveen, Holland as D-EATY.

ancientaviator62
11th Jul 2017, 07:45
TM,
the UK registration of our ex ALAT Cub was G-CUBJ.