Netjets hiring plans 2008?

[potatowings]

Hi all,

Does anyone know of NJE hiring plans for 2008?

Thanks in advance for your responses.

[potatowings]

:eek: WOW. Thanks for the link to that press release. That is incredible. Another 750 pilots in 4 years. Amazing. That is good for the whole industry.

[His dudeness]

@That is good for the whole industry.

I´d doubt that.
Quote of an exchange I had with a handler recently:
You know, there are others that like to be handled or get slots, but yeah, there is a NetJets in front of you and even if he came after you they are better business than you are.

And that happens a lot on NJE frequents bases and meanwhile also at some of their maintenance bases. Try JA DUS to do something on your airplane whilst an urgent NJE aircraft is there.

And no, not bitter. Had tried to join 4 times (3 times no response at all) and turned them down on 4th occasion since I had a commitment by then.

Still, as a pilot I think its good on a short time base for pilots.

[thedeadseawasonlysick]

I take it that the article was written by the Netjets PR department. Surely no journalist worth his salt would use such sycophantic phrases. Unless he was after a free ride?

[potatowings]

I only asked a question guys. I'm really not interested in slanging matches. Please leave positive non aggressive comments. Thanks.

[thedeadseawasonlysick]

It's going to be a very boring thread then!

[Flintstone]

Only positive comments?

Ok. How about.............. It'll be good news for those wanting to join that around 60 pilots have resigned so far this year, they'll need to be replaced.

How's that?:O

[PAPI-74]

What is the reason for the high turnover. It seems that they are making an effort to improve the T'&C's for the Pilots?
Is there still a way to go then?

[potatowings]

My reference to good news for the industry refers to the pilot side. Although I do concern myself with companies, I'm interested in the job prospects and any company that needs so many pilots for sure will have to work harder to get them. That's good news for pilots.

[blablablafly]

What is the reason for the high turnover.


It is mainly growth for the 30 aircraft per annum added :D

[Smeagel]

blabla. I think you lost something in the translation.

'Turnover' means pilots leaving. That has nothing to do with any new aircraft.

[blablablafly]

Smeagel from 900 to 1500 is 600 growth. Add to this the turnover and you see a large pilot requirement hence the much improved T&C package we got :p

[PAPI-74]

And I wasn't concerned with the new aircraft....my question was just as stated re:turnover.
They (NetJets) seemed to haved upped their game....see the new website, and are putting accross a modern profile.
My question was has the T's and C's improved too?
Blabla has answered it thanks, only it is a move I may consider in the new year.

[potatowings]

Indeed I too may consider a move. I understand they are tweaking their terms and conditions again soon, is there any news on how?

They seem pretty good to me at the moment.

[Smeagel]

blabla. I never said it wasn't growth, I was merely pointing out your misunderstanding which is unchanged.

On the subject of better conditions would that be for ALL Netjets crew? Including those facing a 90% tax bill? Please, tell me more!

[blablablafly]

Hi Smeagel

The money received from NJ when the new T&C's came in to get a tax advisor has been put to good use thank you. i understand that there is still a problem with the french pilotssame like these guys have http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=298438 So if there will have to be a seperate French contract like EZ i do not know but the french authorithies will have to adaot to the EU at some point. There are by now more french flying outside of france then there are in France :rolleyes:

I am pleased with the changes and I understand that the company is in talks with the Belgium tax people to get pilots with a bru gateway a normal tax aknowledgement. So no idea what the percentage is but impressed by the approach they have taken and the mess of the past is for 90% cleared :ok:

regards

[Smeagel]

blabla.

So everyone has had their tax and social contributions sorted out to their satisfaction at last? Fantastic news if that is the case.:ok:

Is that ALL crew in ALL countries?

Has the company finally achieved a satisfactory agreement with crew?

Have the crew unanimously accepted the new contract?

If these issues have been resolved that is wonderful. Have they?

[blablablafly]

Hi

I don't know what you are looking for but as you could read in my posting France is and Belgium might have issues just like any other airline without a base there. That is what I know that the company is working on. :ok: Other countries might have issues but not as bad as in those two. Having been involved in SN i know a lot about the Berlgium tax issues and it is the worst in Europe...

I never said that everybody is / was happy but what I can see is that the number of issues affecting crew in the last two years has been reduced dramitically and I see the company makes a big effort to sort out the last issues :D

[Smeagel]

Ah. So not so good after all.

Still, I see that you say you are pleased with the changes. I guess the remaining 10% of your colleagues will just have to take care of themselves eh?

[FourGreenNoRed]

Hey Don Quichote, welcome back. It was somewhat boaring without you almost as boaring as your old tales you are spreading around again.

Something new available? You should request a guest status for a GRT to get some new stories. Or your little helpers need to be tuned.

There are so many good stories around . . . . ;)

[Smeagel]

Yay 4Green! My favourite Lisbonite ;).

I don't quite see how this news is 'old and boring' to be honest. There are still a significant number of your colleagues refusing to sign the bestest-ever-contract-in-the-world and with the deadline approaching I'd say that makes it current news. It also says something about the lack of solidarity that blabla thinks that the affected 10% aren't that important. I'm sure it matters to those who are being left out in the cold.

Aaaaaaaanyway, contracts schmontracts. That's all very dry and boring. Why don't you come over and have a chat in the Aspen thread? http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=301297

I saw you reading it earlier and was disappointed that you chose not to comment. I'll see you there, maybe we can also discuss the Falcon 900 that was geographically embarrassed over the North Atlantic, the very senior pilots attending interviews elsewhere and the continuing sacking of competent Ops staff who embarrass their managers and supervisors by being good at their jobs. Four last week wasn't it? (I do hope that's up to date enough for you).

Then there's the management leaving Lisbon and going back to the line in frustration. Oh, we have SO much to talk about. I've really missed you luvvy :O

See you there.

[FourGreenNoRed]

Big SMEAGEL is watching you. Please dont share the other sites I am surfing thru :E

No comment on the other topic since I have no details, and if I had em, I wouldnt share them in here. Maybe in JB. Talking about it: Seems to be your prime-source of info lately. Four sacked emloyees? Competent? AFM going back on-line for personal reasons? F-900 lost in space?

As always: unfortunately just the one side of the story with some creative toppings around them, the other 50 % belong to the dark side of the moon, which you are not willing to share or just have no clue about it . . .

As long as it feeds the monkey: Knock yourself out and continue with your copy-paste effort. :D

[Smeagel]

JB? Sadly not, ex-employees are excluded. I'd seriously doubt that these subjects would surface in there anyway what with the company scaring everyone off with lies about them being able to see the users real identities. Your upper management really don't like that place do they? Must be because people write words like 'union' in there.

I'm a little confused though. First you write...I have no details... yet go on to say... As always: unfortunately just the one side of the story with some creative toppings around them To suggest that I only have half the story and have made the rest up must mean that you DO know the details yet you say you do not. Alternatively you DO NOT know the details but are rubbishing what I wrote, perhaps out of habit. Which is it?

Actually it's naughty of me to ask the question because I know the answers. I can provide you with the names of all concerned if you like? I'm the first to admit I'm losing touch with the old company these days (no bad thing) but I assure you my intel is good on this one. Perhaps that's what annoys you?

Don't shoot the messenger eh?