Challenger 300 Crew and Salarys?

[HS125]

I'm looking for some advice on salarys for a Challenger 300 crew for a UK based corporate operation.

Crew may be new to the type but can be assumed to have considerable and relevant jet experience.

The package would consist entirely of money (i.e No car/pension/medical insurance/etc) and the crew would be expected to be available pretty much 24/7 and may be away from base for extended periods. I would anticipate about 400 flight hours per year.

Also what is the going rate for freelance pilots on this type?

In both cases I'm looking for rates for BOTH seats.

Thanks in advance!

HS125

[His dudeness]

I´m partly freelancing as a CL300 captain and my rate is 600€/day plus expenses and perdiem (german fiscal rates). BUT I´m not from the UK and 600€ is on the cheap side. (and I do only a littlebit of freelancing these days)

There are not many 300er crew around, since Bombardier CTC and FSI are booked to the brim.

A copilot should get around 450€ / day IMO.

But again, that is for the continent, might need to be beefed up a bit for the UK.

[Ho4it]

Go to challenger 300 pilot.com or some combination of cl-300. You will be put in the right direction for information. your advantage is good "not many 300 crews out there" Don't do it for peanuts 'cause you know you screw yourself and everyone else if you go that direction.

Good luck :ok:

[GAMABIRD]

Hi there freelance rates for challenger crews are pretty much the same wether 601/604 or the 300.You should be charging £600a day Capt £400 f/o plus expenses.Full time rate £85k capt £60 f/o.There is a large demand for challenger crews at present so don,t undersell yourself.As for operating 24/7 then i would not recomend it!!push for a third pilot (Capt)
otherwise you will have no life,especially if you are married or have a partner, they will need to know when you are off/on duty.
Make sure you have a company phone plus company credit cards,don,t accept the use your own credit card & i will give you a float, it never works in your favour especially with expense rate fluctuation.Otherwise there will be a high crew turnover.As for the no insurance well try going sick or breaking a limb in some places like the usa & kiss your years salary goodbye in one hit.You must have insurance for the area you will be operating.Last worldwide i got inc USA was about £500 a month from bupa very expensive. Good luck:=

[Chippie Chappie]

Ho4it,

You're assuming that HS125 is an employee rather than an employer. I took it as being the other way around. :}

Chips

[HS125]

Hi All

Thanks for the responses so far,

I would surpose I fell into the catagory of 'management pilot' so am looking from both the employer and employee perspective. Plan a is that I will be looking for crew and forming part of that crew myself.

My real motivation here is to compile the information I need to negotiate the best deal for the crew but a fair deal from everyone's perspective.

Regards

HS125

[janusz]

HS125

If you're in South East UK and looking for crew please PM me.

Thanks!

[CCR]

What are the current contract rates for Capt and F/O's for Challenger 300 pilots? There seems to be quite a bit of demand for these crews in the market again.

[RAFAT]

GAMABIRD raises some very good points which should be taken on board, especially regarding personal insurance. With a package that consists entirely of money, that would appeal mainly to the self-employed types who have existing pension/medical/credit card/phone arrangements in place, but I doubt the experienced self-employed types will be completely happy with the 24/7 and "away from base for extended periods" arrangement, unless of course you double their rates!

[Bizdriver]

Does anyone know of any CL30 FO positions going at the moment? preferably uk base or 14/14? Got 1050hrs on type, 2200 total time.

[CCR]

Try Hamlin Jet. Think they are based in the London area. They advertised on www.flightglobal.com recently.