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oriental flyer
8th Nov 2007, 09:05
Cathay Pacific on Thursday announced its biggest-ever direct-purchase commitment for new aircraft, placing firm orders for 10 Boeing 747-8 Freighters and a further seven Boeing 777-300ER passenger aircraft directly from the Boeing Company. The airline has also taken up purchase rights for another 14 of the new freighter type.

The announcement for the new aircraft order – valued at approximately US$5.2 billion at list prices - comes as CX continues to expand its fleet and further develop its passenger and cargo services to further strengthen Hong Kong’s position as a leading international aviation hub.

The airline currently operates 19 freighters and before today’s announcement already had commitments for eight more - six Boeing 747-400ERF Extended Range Freighters and two 747-400BCF Boeing Converted Freighters - for delivery by 2009. The addition of the 10 new Boeing 747-8F new-generation freighters will enhance the airline’s cargo capacity and at the same time allow it to begin a phased withdrawal of its fleet of seven older, less fuel-efficient Boeing 747-200F “Classic” freighters by 2012.

The order for additional Boeing 777-300ER passenger aircraft means CX now has a firm commitment for 30 of the aircraft type for delivery by 2012, making it the largest such commitment of any airline in Asia for the 777-300ER. Three have already been delivered and will be used to operate the airline’s fast-expanding long-haul services primarily to North America, starting with the third daily flight to New York which launches 15 November.

The passenger aircraft and freighter purchases announced today are scheduled for delivery from 2009 to 2012.

Speaking at the press conference to announce the new purchases, Chief Executive Tony Tyler said: “We are very pleased to announce our biggest-ever new order for 10 freighters, plus 14 purchase rights, together with a commitment for seven more Boeing 777-300ER passenger aircraft. These orders highlight our long-term confidence in the future of both the cargo and passenger markets in Hong Kong and confirm our commitment to developing our home city as one of the world’s premier aviation hubs.”

Mr Tyler added: “We are very excited about the 747-8 Freighter which provides the highest payload of any commercial freighter. More importantly, this is a highly fuel-efficient aircraft which consumes 22% less fuel per revenue payload tonne than a 747-200F and 12% less than a 747-400F. Similarly, the 777-300ER is 22% more fuel-efficient than a 747-400 per payload tonne. The greater efficiency of both aircraft types is very important in these environmentally sensitive times and when fuel prices are at record highs.”

CX is one of the earliest customers for the new-generation, high-capacity 747-8F which provides 16% more revenue cargo volume than the Boeing 747-400F with a maximum structural payload capacity of 140 tonnes and a greater range of 8,275 kilometres. The 747-8F, powered by General Electric GEnx-2B67 engines, will be deployed primarily on cargo trunk routes to North America. At present, the airline operates all-cargo services to 34 destinations worldwide.

CX now operates a fleet of 110 aircraft and has 48 aircraft in its order book, including 30 passenger aircraft and 18 freighters. Together with the 39 aircraft, including seven freighters, operated by its sister airline Dragonair and the eight freighters operated by its express cargo subsidiary airline Air Hong Kong, operated in partnership with DHL, the Cathay Pacific Group’s combined fleet now totals 157 aircraft. By 2012, taking into account retired aircraft and the return of leased aircraft, Cathay Pacific will operate a total of 147 aircraft, while the Group’s fleet will number 196 aircraft.

Beta Light
8th Nov 2007, 10:44
Do they come with an U.A.V. option? Three calls a week from crew control to ask favours ( which is politely declined ) to crew current fleet I would say Unmanned Aerial Vehicle option will be needed.

cpdude
8th Nov 2007, 11:03
We all knew it was coming...spend the money somewhere before profit share needed to be paid!

crewsunite
8th Nov 2007, 13:49
Did u know they can write off 60% depreciation in one fiscal year!
Bin the older planes.. etc Good move

But Sir Adrian give PW & NR the go ahead to get there cheque books out so we can crew these planes please.

Lets keep on keeping on hey...
What do u say? :8

Numero Crunchero
8th Nov 2007, 16:23
If those numbers are accurate for 2012 then the growth rate is going to be lower than I had expected. I had expected 158 a/c by end of 2012 to maintain the growth rate of the last 6 years and for commands to be 13+ years. If we only have 147 a/c by end of 2012 then the growth rate is only around 4% in which case command time will stretch out to 17+ years.

So lets hope they start ramping up the orders soon or else commands are really going to stretch out closer to 2 decades!

Ballistic Amah
8th Nov 2007, 16:58
Crunchy,
Just curious, how many commands are year are you basing your projections on? Been trying to get a grip on the same issue for a while now. Heard next year should see a dramatic reduction (55 commands) due to freighter guys switching across. Thereafter will go back to about 105/year.

Fly747
8th Nov 2007, 17:42
I'm confused here. No money in freight, yields down, cargo market softening, below target, blah blah blah.
Well, if the KA white tail 400 BCF in XMN is to be leased out because no crew.......
Give us the MONEY.

cxpileit
8th Nov 2007, 20:11
Don't worry about the DragonAir -400 BCFs being wet leased, they are going to be in Cathay colours before they roll out of the hanger. Actually, it has been told on the 3rd floor that there is an ex-SAA -400 on the way that was to be converted to a BCF, but instead it will be fitted for pax. The DragonAir BCF is due out on the last days of December, and it will be delivered to Cathay. So too will two more DragonAir BCFs scheduled for next year. Apparently, to no ones surprise, DragonAir cannot crew their freighters - aka, operational difficulties. So Cathay's freighter fleet will grow quickly.
How are they going to crew them at Cathay?
CX lost 38 FOs in the last 12 months back to North America, and a similar number in Europe. With the 777 requirements for crews, they can't keep up with attrition and crew a bigger fleet. Good Luck!! Everyone knows somebody who is looking at another carrier, it is not just the money anymore but the shifting CoS, 1972 RAF flight school that new joiners get to experience, lack of a stabe future.
PS...did you hear that Cathay went to Dubai to recruit 777 pilots - well it may come down to that soon.
:}:eek::ugh:

geh065
9th Nov 2007, 00:52
I'm confused here. No money in freight, yields down, cargo market softening, below target, blah blah blah.
Well, if the KA white tail 400 BCF in XMN is to be leased out because no crew.......
Give us the MONEY.
Actually the Dragonair 747BCFs are all done by Singapore Engineering in Singapore. If you saw a white BCF in XMN, it is not a KA one. XMN is the biggest player in BCF conversions for the world and apart from the so far KA ones from SIN, and Korean Air ones who do their own in Pusan, the global fleet of BCFs have all come from XMN.

Liam Gallagher
9th Nov 2007, 04:19
The KA BCF is, or about to be, in the Paint Shop at Singapore/ Xiamen/ who cares..... The choice of colours are KA or CX or white.

Smart money is on the white........

EXEZY
9th Nov 2007, 05:10
I was just reading on terms and endearment 8 years to short haul command in Gatwick for British Airways and 10 and a bit for long haul.... food for thought

Numero Crunchero
6th Dec 2007, 12:17
For those wondering about time to command with latest a/c order read my previous post on this thread.

caveat: I haven't checked to see what affect, if any, the early retirement of the classic will have.