Generic Interview & Recruitment Questions II

[NZ_Girl]

Just wondering if having diabetes has ever caused problems when it comes time to have the medical. I'm applying for Cabin Crew and would be gutted to discover that this could be a negative for me...

[sebby]

Hey dont know exactly..... however a girl i work with has epilepsy and doesnt hide it, i doubt it as long as you have a history of managing it responsibly!

All the best!!! :ok: :ok:

[Getoutofmygalley]

In the UK it isn't a problem. Where I work, there is at least 1 cc member who is diabetic and he carries a glucose substance called Glucojel (used to be called Hypostop).

When this particular crew member feels the effects of depleted blood sugar he squeezes a tube of the glucose substance into his mouth and is usually back to normal within a couple of minutes.

Of course, NZ may have differeing rules to the UK :ouch:

[priapism]

NZ Girl,

Are you insulin dependent?

[NZ_Girl]

Yep, I'm Insulin dependent, so understand the ins and outs of my condition, but so far I can't find any info on being c/c with the condition. I have a c/c interview day to attend this month, and i have spoken with the c/c supervisor, and she is unaware of it being an issue... but i don't want to find out later that it's an issue :uhoh:

[sebby]

Hey there-

Who si your interview with??

[NZ_Girl]

Its with Pac Blue :ok:

[sebby]

Awesome... my partner will be attending that interview also! I didnt get an invite, im not 100% why as i fly at the moment but perhaps its due to having already flown. I do know now that pac blue have settled into the market they prefer to ahve newbies who they can mould in their special way :p

I think you should be ok, all the best hey! :D

There is a doctor in remuera who specialises in aviation medicals, maybe you could give him a call and ask what his opinion would be.. but if the base manager has said it seems ok you should be ok! :ok:

[TightSlot]

Please use the forum SEARCH function for previous threads on this subject - Your question may have been answered already

[Shazzaf]

Hi everyone

I've just registered on this so I'm as green as grass

I'm really interested in becoming cc but I have a condition in my right leg which basically means that I have too many veins in my right knee. My knee just looks bruised though it doesn't inhibit me at all and never has done but I'm wondering if this will have any effect on me becoming successful as cc. Any advice would ease my mind. :confused:

Thanks :ok:

[EzyChic]

I can't see why it would.

As long as you are physically fit and it doesn't affect your ability to perform your duties.

You might have to wear trousers of cover it up depending on the severity, but I doubt any thing otherwise.

Try posting on your airline of choice's recruitment thread, maybe they can tell you more, but surely if it is just cosmetic they can't refuse to employ you because of it.

Good luck

[500 miles]

Hi I would love to be cabin crew but have noticed that a lot of companies want a clean driving licence.I have points for speeding :\
I have lots of customer service experience but I am put of from applying because I dont want to get turned down because of this.
Any ideas would be great :ugh:

[William Whizz]

As far as i am concerned what you need to have clear is the criminal record. So I will say go for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HZ123]

Apply, it is not a problem providing it is not drink driving or something involving a ban. Speeding / minor offences involving points are no problem, but make sure you reveal them all if requested. Apply today.

[finomvadas]

I d just ask my gp you know, but sounds like if you ve got too many veins that the blood could circulate easier up there at 28000ft. Use it to your advantage, tell the people at interview!! Good luck!

[finomvadas]

Apply mate! Te companies just wanna make sure you haven't committed a serious crime. A couple of points for speeding isn't gonna harm you, but be honest and tell them, but at interview not on the application form. Then they'll say say no worries.

[johnrizzo2000]

Depends on which airline you work for! Flying for BA is different to flying for FCA or FR!!!! I'm CC and just started trying to build my hours towards getting my PPL. The only problem I have found is I am quite tired on my days off after flying, and I really really enjoy the job, so my PPL isnt as urgent as it once was!:)

[atmosphere]

I have been cabin crew for 4 years! and simply unless you have a heap of cash stored away! or you get sponsored, its tough as nuts!

My parents are even willing to put there house on the line to Guarantee the loan, but still that isn't good enough!

Apply to CTC wings, thats anybodies best bed! or do what some people do! fiddle around on 0% credit cards!

[Best Mate]

Some years ago a friend of mine achieved his ambition of becoming a pilot (eventually flying for the then GO) but he had to re-mortage his house big time to do so. It paid off financially for him in the long run but he was in debt for years.

[Virgin_Wannabe]

Hi guys!

This is my first post!:)

Ever since my first flight of being 12 years old, which is now 11 years ago, I have dreamt of being a flight attendant...but that's another story!

I have a few questions. I am only 5'2 tall exactly - if not even a tiny tiny dot below. Will I lose all chances of achieving my dream, or does it count the fact when you put on high heels, I'd grow to 5'4? :)

Also, are you allowed to have your hair down? I have heard different places you aren't allowed longish hair and wearing it down. I have no problems wearing it up - only curious.

That's it for now :rolleyes:

[calvink]

Hi.. i was wondering how am i going to answer 'Why didnt u get through in the last interview round'...how would i go about answering them...thanks for your help

[juicyjenny]

Hi im 17 years old and from Liverpool:p and i have wanted to be a flight attendant for about 2 years now, just about to turn 18 and would like some helpfull advice off people in the industry to help! please:). Is it true you have to be 19 to work as cabin crew? and is it true you need 4 GCSEs, i have read up so much on it but i would like proper advice from people who actually do what i want to do!!!! thx loads plz somebody reply soon,

lv yas
Juicy Jenny xxxx

[VS-LHRCSA]

Every airline has different requirements regarding cabin crew. To be honest, I all goes down to your attitude and ability to work with others as well as passengers. Some have higher age limits than others.

You need to work out what is important to you. Where do you want to be based? Will you be willing to move? Can you afford it - basic salaries can be very low and you won't start earning full allowances for, realistically, the first couple of pays.

As you live in Liverpool, you are probably best to give Easyjet a try. Get a solid grounding as crew, then move on to other airlines if you want to do long haul. Other than that, I'm sure you could try one of the charter airlines based at MAN.

Best advice is to do your own research. Look at every airline's website. See what their requirements are and work towards them.

Good luck.

[r.s]

Look on the websites of the airlines you'd like to work for and they'll tell you their criteria. Since UK law changed they all hire at 18, and customer service experience is a given.

Good luck

[juicyjenny]

aw thx alot for the info really helpfull! Juicy Jennyx:p

[Juud]

Hello Jenny,
At the top of the forum there is a sticky called Forum FAQ & useful links: please read BEFORE YOU POST A QUESTION !! (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=146469)It has a great many links to the relevant sites of different airlines and would probably answer many of your questions.
It also has a link to the search function, another real useful bit of kit for you.
Many people have answered your question in the past, some very good and relevant answers are to be found in the archives. Make your self a pot of tea and start searching. I guarantee that it will be worth your time. :ok:
Best of luck.

[PB4]

hi there, I'm looking for information for my partner who's dream is to become CC, however taking age (only 33) in consideration and future familly expansion :E she would then prefer to work in the training department of an airline, so how is the job ? is it worth it ? Can one go straight into the training crew or do you have to get extensive experience before being promoted to it ? Not really familiar with the airlines yet as I'm just fresh out of school but what different positions exist within the training dept ?

thanks for your contributions !

[VS-LHRCSA]

To be a trainer, you would usually need quite a few years cabin crew experience first. Competition for these vacancies is pretty stiff. If your partner is planning to be crew, then eventually start a family, she would probably end up working in an administrative role (larger airlines have actual "grounded crew departments") once she falls pregnant. This might possibly be in the training centre. After maternity leave she would be back into her flying job unless she actually applied for a ground based position.

Smaller airlines, or airlines with very high turnover may be slightly different. In fact, some have difficulty finding trainers but you would need to evaluate if its worth putting up with bad conditions just on the off chance of being offered a training job.

[BestonBoard]

I am in agreement with VS I'm afraid. The majority of reputable airlines out there do require experience "in the tube" as it were to be able to provide plausable experience when training crew. As an instructor is often classed as a higher ranking crew member, to go straight into the role is often a very limited opportunity. There are niches in the market as it were, for example if she were an experienced beauty therapist or similar, she may qualify to be part of the grooming/professional image team, but this does depend on the airline.
If you are looking to expand your family, I would honestly ask your partner if flying is what she is looking or in the immediate future... Flying itself takes it's toll on the body, whether short haul or long haul, it is a very tiring profession. As soon as your partner declared her pregnancy to an airline she would be grounded, and commence office based duties... If she wants to fly, is that the correct way of doing it? There is no offence intended at all... Maybe continue with the family growth, and then pursue the skies once the family routine has been estalished??? Just an idea :)

[luther55]

Hey all,id just like to if any south african souls out there thats willing to help me with my question.
What are the requirments at saa express?
Do they recruit via the papers or do you just drop your cv at the airport?
Appreciate the help PM ME PLZ.Thanx ?

[glamourgirl!]

Hi just wondering if any1 can relate to this as crew and how do you cope with training/ recurrent? what do your managers advise etc?

[blondechick]

I ve had my dyslexia diagnosed when i was at primary school. I had it both Maths and english but mainly now in maths always have a calculator with me but always use spell check anything i post too! just in case.

I got a job with easyjet 2 years ago although i no longer work there am at bmi. I went for my interview but didnt tell them at the time bout my dyslexia (should have) and luckly they gave out calculators for the maths exam so i passed but on training i did say and they were GREAT they say said if i need help in any exams just ask as they told all the examiners bout this which was fantastic. All employers cannot discriminate against you if you have this. Yes i suppose i did have to study slightly harder than others as i have a terrible memory and takes awhile for me to get my head around things but then i did the same on my school exams and I passed all my easyjet exams didnt even need any resits! which i was well chuffed bout!! Yes I did find the exams the first time around hard as i'm better on pratical things than written but when it came round for re-current I knew what I was taking bout as i'd flowen for a year which helps.

I did go for an virgin interview and didnt tell them and failed to even finish the maths exam in the allocated time given. After they told me they did say i should have said and they would have given me more time but i didnt and i didnt go back for another interview with them suppose i was too embarrassed to as i'd failed the first time round.

But when I went to my BMI interview I did say and they were great again bout things same as easyjet in taking exams although having some flying experience did help the second round time not so hard :)

Hope this helps and you go for the interview all i will say is tell them as they will be understanding trust me I know :) good luck :ok:

[glamourgirl!]

Thanks for your advice blondechick although im not going to an interview I passed the interview and maths test several years ago. Its just that S.E.P recurrent has suddenly got much harder meaning you have to know things like crew rest smoke systems off by heart. Which i simply cannot do. Lots of Questions which I cannot take in etc Ive always managed fine but defo struggled on SEP just gone (in fact failed exams) But managed to scrape through resit!

Thanks for your help and advice its just nice to know im not the only1 out there g.g xxx

[potter3012]

Hi there,

can anyone tell me what SOP and SEP mean on a cabin crew job description. I am thinking of applying to become cabin crew so am doing a little research.

It would be great if anyone could let me know.

cheers

wayne.
xxx

[Virginia]

Standard Operating Procedures

Safety & Emergency Procedures

[potter3012]

Hi virginia,

thanks for letting me know the terms.

I'm thinking of applying to Astaeus. Have you heard of them. The post for crew is open until march next year so gives me sometime to do my research.

I know i'm being a bit cheeky but is possible you can give me any tips on applying for future positions.

cheers

wayne.

xx

[cindy_syng]

Hi guys, when become a Flight attendant, do you have to show them you know how to swim?
*I know this is one stupid question but as far as I concerned the most when I'm trying to apply as a FA*
Because I've talked to somebody who is working as a FA (I don't know which airline, she know how to swim but at the training programe, the airline haven't ask them or got any training which related to swim as the teacher told them if there is a crash, you are gonna die even if you can swim or not.)

The other thing is (not related to the swim topic =P) I've try to apply for CX (HK base) but just they will not contact you if you are not in HK (which means I will not be able to get a call from them because i'm living in UK.

Any opinios?
Thank you very much!

[Twinklinggem]

I work as cabin crew and yes you have to be able to show them you can swim in your training you do a ditching drill :)


Good luck:)

[ladyflyby]

CX are recruiting for the LHR base, but you must speak Cantonese, Mandarin, Japanese, Tagalog or Korean, as well as English.

As for the teacher you speak of, most crashes are survivable! Ditching is a touchy one but you never know what might happen so you must be a proficient swimmer. It's not hard to do though really!

[cindy_syng]

I know CX are recruiting for the LHR base now and I do know even if I apply it now I can't be able to learn to swim that fast. But don't know how long would the recruitment last as CX website will not say anything about it. As I remembered the last recruitment for the LHR base was April (because my friend's friend has applied) so I may have to wait for the next recruitment since I can't swim AT ALL. *sigh*

By the way, thanks guys =]

[sebby]

Can you please find out which airline this was and remind me never to fly on them. If their SEP trainers are saying that then I would hate to think what you are taught for a cabin fire... or better yet a decompression!:ugh:

Recently we ahd an intake where one guy couldnt swim so they allowed him to get some swimming lessons and once he got a certificate he was invited for the next intake. Luckily that was just a couple of months later, but if you are required to wait, just more time to learn!

Go for it! :ok:

[ladyflyby]

Get yourself down to your local pool then for some lessons!! If you have the confidence then you will be fine. Swimming is really very easy.

[Aussie_Pilot]

Hello everybody,
i'd like to know from one of you if the online course is a good value investiment

http://www.cabincrewticket.co.uk
there are some preety good feedback but you could never know

do you think I should spend 75£ ???

let me know

[Getoutofmygalley]

Hello

If you use the search engine on here, this question has been asked many times (regarding different diploma companies I must add). The answer usually given is a "no" as most airlines like to train you to their own standard.

Personally I would save the £75 and put it towards a decent suit for any interviews that you might be lucky enough to get.

Working for easyJet, a diploma would be pointless. You go through a selection process during an assessment day (they look at your personality, ability to operate as part of a team, how you cope with stress when performing a timed activity etc), the diploma won't help with that. You then have a formal interview (if you pass the assessment stage) and a diploma won't help with that as they will be asking you questions about yourself personally and how you have performed in certain situations before.

And, when you commence training, the airline will train you to it's own standard, will provide you with location of SEP equipment, formal training on equipment, first aid and lot's more.

So, save your money and just get applying to different airlines and good luck to you :)

[Aussie_Pilot]

Ok Thanks so much
Getout...

I'll check out by myself

[garywoodrow]

Hi,
Just wondering what the requirements on fitness are and also is being overweight a problem, as i suspect it will be to be a flight attendent. If so, what weight restrictions are there?

Im a ramp agent at Liverpool airport whilst im still at college but thinking of becoming a flight attendant when i leave college to save up some money for my flying training. :}

Regards,
Gary

[Felix Saddler]

Apply to CTC.. if u dont get in go off to uni! Far better fun!! Leave all the serious stuff for later!

[garywoodrow]

still would like to know the requirements :rolleyes:. I really dont want to go to uni, and i dought ctc will accept me, but ill try anyway once i finish my a-levels. :ok:

[k1mmie]

Hi, new to the site, so please be gentle:O. I have just had my first interview through an agency for Swissport. I passed the interview session and the written test. They told me that the next step is to go to a session with Swissport. Does anybody know what this entails. I was also told that this recruitment drive was probably for Easyjet. Are there any height/weight restrictions working for them? Any advice appreciated. I am a 40 year old woman, looking to go into a career I have always wanted to do, and hope this is my chance to get in.

[lynner]

Hi i am applying to easy jet & first choice as cabin crew and am a bit worried about maths & english assessments can anyone give me advice on what they entail?:bored:

[vodkaholic]

Hi lynner.

Well, usually for FCA the maths test is simple things like working out currency conversions, time differences, change etc. Don't forget your calculator as you are normally allowed to use this!

Remember to swot up on the company as well because there is an exam based on what you know about the company...fleet, uk bases, routes, number of aircraft, managing director etc.

The english part of the exam is normally a reading comprehension so all the answers are there, it's pretty simple!!

Good luck! x

[rachelsmith]

Hi
Can anyone tell me about the overnight accomodation provided by the airlines? Do you get much time off or do you have to fly straight back in the morning?

Thanks

Rachel

[Donzers]

Hi Rachel

The answer to your question depends very much on the airline you are working for and the type of flying that you will be doing. If you work for a shorthaul airline its possible you would'nt have that many nightstops away from base, however if you are nightstopping your employer will provide you with (generally) good quality accomodation and you will get an allowance towards your food. If you are doing longhaul you can be in a hotel for one or more nights before your return flight. I flew for 8 years and most of the accomodation was pretty good. Hope this helps.

[500 miles]

I have applied for cabin crew to a few airlines I have recived back conformation of my application from one stating If successful I would be informed within 4 weeks of closing date but the possition states on going recruitment or words to that effect does this mean there is no closing date and I will never hear from them again or what ? I dont want to sit here waiting forever.
Sorry for all questions but are night stops common on short haul how many nights do you leave and come home on the same shift
I have children and want to be prepared for the worst if I am succefull

[sleepy740]

i would call them.

[garywoodrow]

Hi, Ive tried asking this before in another thread but got no answer, so sorry if this is the wrong place to post.

Just wondering what the requirements are on weight to become a air steward. I would really love to do this when i leave college in a few months but im a bit overweight, just wanted to know if their are any limits or such.

Regards
Gary

[S-crew'd]

Not sure what the official line is but as long as you can safely sit in the crew jumpseat, make your way down the aisle in a hurry and use the doors\exits without difficulty you should be ok. Where I work we have all kinds of people of varying sizes.

It's your personality and enthusiasm for the role that really makes the difference and ultimately gets you the job:)

[hawaiianhosty]

if you're anything like Rick Waller then you can forget it, a little bit of meat won't deny you a job but then it all depends on what airline you go for. When I worked for Qatar Airways one girl was grounded cos she'd gained some weight and could no longer button all her buttons up on her tailored uniform jacket.

[elisa4]

yup,

it all depends! airlines in the middle east are quite strict about weight issues.
as long as your BMI (ratio weight/length, don t know the exact formula) is not higher then 25, you should be okay in the middle east.

[lotman1000]

A quick look at the title and 1st post of the recent thread in the Cabin Crew forum called

Dissision on Virgin Recruitment day

should reassure you that they're not looking for unreachable academic qualifications and intelligence.

[sam.lk7]

Does anyone know of any cabin crew jobs i can get around sydney or perth, i am too tall for Qantas as i am 185cm (2cm too tall) what other airlines are available? Someone please help.

[sinala1]

The height requirement for any airline operating aircraft B737 size or larger is a joke... its from older times when aircraft had TV's hanging down in the aisle, but they are just about all gone now - except the possibility of some of QF's B734's I think...

I am unsure if Jetstar have a height limit, however Virgin Blue definately doesn't - there are some fairly tall crew flying for DJ. So long as you can run through a dark smoke filled cabin without hitting your head on the roof I think you will be ok :ok:

PS You don't actually need to run through a smoke filled cabin to get the job, but obviously in a fire/evac you would!

[sam.lk7]

Is it difficult to get hired at DJ, how often do they hire?

...Also, does anyone know if qantas is likely to remove there height restrictions, god it sucks that i cant work for the company of my dreams because of 2cm...

[I Just Want To Fly]

sam.lk7 - I'm 187 and tried 6 times to get into QF, seeing if I could slip through the cracks, and wow them with my personality! They are just too strict! I even tried getting into QF AKL, and QF LHR, but still no luck. The problem is that I believe the contracts at QF allow them to put you onto any a/c that they see fit, and this may include QF Dh8's. Obviously the chances would be slium, but might be.

I gave up on QF, and moved to England to follow my dream. I started at a Easyjet which operates A319, same as Jetstar (A320). Never any problems on that a/c. Then I moved to Virgin Atlantic, and am now living the dream of Long Haul. Asia, India, Africa, USA, Carribean, and every once in a while, I get home to sydney. Europe is desperate for crew, and they love aussies! But you need to be elgibile for an EU passport, or you can get ancestry residency, if one of your grandparents was born in the UK. Easyjet also take crew who are on working holiday visas.

Anyway, I am going to move home soon, and either fly for DJ, or try V-Australia when they start ops late next year. They do have maximums, but it's fare more generous, I think it's 190 or 195 even.

Anyway, good luck with your dreams, but don't wait around for QF to change their rules. Follow your dream, and get some experience in the industry, and if QF does drop their height limits one day, then you can try again.

[Ali_Xander]

Hey...
I would suggest you apply to Emirates who do not have a maximum height and love to recruit aussies :) EK operate only widebodied aircrafts which means you will never end up with the possibility of being in a smaller aircraft like at QF. I am 6ft2, I know someone who works there at 6ft4 and you would have no problem getting through. If I am not mistaken, they are recruiting like mad at the moment. Check you emiratesgroupcareers.com.

Good Luck :ok:

[sam.lk7]

thanks so much for your help

[sam.lk7]

hi everyone,
:)
I recently have turned 18 and am ready to start applying to airlines ( i am in western australia), i have been proven to have a mild colour vision deficiency, does anyone know if this will affect my chances of gaining cabin crew employment with QF or DJ (virgin blue) or any other airline for that matter? Any help would be great...:confused::confused:

guys i am really scared.:uhoh:

sam

[bengregson]

Dear all,
Im 18 and very keen to become an air steward during my gap year (before i study physics at Durham university). I already have a PPL (hoping to be a commercial pilot) and was wondering if people knew how easy it is to get such a job around summer 2008 and what the best way of going about it was.
Thanks in advance for any advice!
Ben

[sam.lk7]

why does my name say "Train/Plane Spotter Muppet" next to it?????

[Ali_Xander]

Sam.lk7 - Don't have a clue why it says that against your name. As for being colour blind, I suggest you apply to the airlines first, and maybe ring them to find out as no doubt it might vary between airlines.

Bengregson - If you are in London (it says Holland next to your name), the likes of Thomson, First Choice etc all recruit seasonal staff and if I am not mistaken, they are recruiting for the summer right now. Check aviationjobsearch.com

:ok:

[lady_mxp]

Morning,
maybe somobody could give me an advice - I would like to become cabin crew but dont have any experience as far as now. But most airlines require experience. Maybe there are some companies who give the chance to start the carreer??:(

[Lewis AAC]

I am going to be moving over to the UK from Australia in February. Would the airlines have finished their recruiting by then or would i still be in with a chance to get to an assessment day?

[SouBE]

Hey Lewis, recruitment for cabin crew is pretty much ongoing throughout the year so I don't think you'll have any shortage of airlines to apply to once you come over.

Bring some decent weather over with you!

[fabieen]

Hi! This is my first post ;)

Firstly, I have to write, that I'm from PL, so I apologize for all language mistakes.

Hello again ;P
I have diabetes and few days ago I had an idea "If I couldn't be a Pilot... Maybe... Member of CC ?" But I read, that "It impossible, because you have Insuline Depent Diabetes". So - NZ_GIRL - what did they tell you? Could we working as members of CC?

Thank in advance for help :) And sorry again for language mistakes...

[bronni]

Hello
I am very interested inbecoming cabin crew (have been for ages tbh).
Could you tell me what the idealweight is for someone who is 5 ft 6 to be cabin crew, whats involved in a flight etc
Thank you for reading this
Bronni

[BlueTui]

all the information is on the relavent airlines websites, however the majority state "height in proportion to weight"

plenty of information on this sight, just read through old posts... you'll get the idea.

[teresad]

If the recruitment team , for an interview coming up, tells you that "Please come in comfortable clothing", what should I wear and not to wear?, what do you understand?

[ladyflyby]

I am filling in an online application and have come across a question asking for an example in a 'customer facing role' - is that literal? Or could I use an example over the telephone?

[kevinmcc]

Hey just happened to come across this forum. I'm based in Ireland and I'm doing a course in which I have to do a 6 month work placement or two 3 month placements. Just wondering does anyone know of any airlines that would take on students for 3 or 6 months. It would be June to December. Any help appreciated as I've contacted lots of airlines but haven't gotten anywhere.

[Little Princess]

:) Hi again was just wondering in there is anyone out there who has Children and works as Cabin Crew?

Is more difficult to get a job as Cabin Crew if you have children?

Which Airline is more acceptable to employ Mothers as Cabin Crew?

If anyone has the answers to these questions then let me know, thanks.

[bronni]

Hi everyone

I am interested in becoming cabin crew but while i diet (all those xmas pies!!!) Iam interested to know what size cc uniform most airlines go upto? How do they fit?
I hope you can help me
Thanks
xxx

[sam.lk7]

can you become a cabin crew member in australia if you are colourblind?

[VS-LHRCSA]

Airlines can't discriminate on weight anymore. As long as you can fit in the jumpseat (and the overwing exit, if they have one) the airline has to provide a uniform that will fit comfortably. Plenty of larger lads and ladies at BA and they seem to get by okay.

[VS-LHRCSA]

Airlines are not allowed to discriminate on family life. They are not allowed to ask you in the interview if you have children, nor do they have to allow for them other than the EU directives over parental leave.

You can be fairly certain that some of your interviewers will be parents and have been crew or are current crew. There is no airline that favours singles over parents (or vice versa) because that would be illegal. Don't go in expecting special treatment and you will be fine.

[ssadie]

hi everybody, this is my first post on pprune.
it's funny that VS-LHRCSA mentioned they can't ask you any of these questions...when I had my final interview with the airline I applied for I was asked (in front of another 20 people) if I was planning to ever get married and have any children!!! but not in the next year or so!! in my life!!!! I was rather suspicious about it, but I also wanted the job very badly, so I answered the truth, I said I surely wanted children at some stage of my life (but then I carefully added: but not for another ten years...), but that marriage certanly wasn't going to be part of my life. at that point I was laughed at and they started commenting things like "oh right...so you've allready planned you are going to be a single mom!!! hahaha!!!" I was imbarassed, shocked, and very very angry. but in italy we don't have those civilized restrictions that you might get in the uk...you want the job, and they are the only ones who can give it to you...
sorry for the long post...cheers.

[ssadie]

I don't know about australia, but certanly in europe you can't...

[racheldebuitleir]

does anyone know if there are any long haul airlines with bases in ROI? Obviously theres aerlingus but theyre a mix of long and short and the long ones are US and dubai only i think...are they the only option for Long Haul flying out of ireland?

[VS-LHRCSA]

Some of the charter airlines do trips out of there but they are pretty hit and miss. I don't think they even use local crew for these. I remember doing NCL-SNN-CUN years ago and that was with a LGW based crew.

You could always join BA and commute from DUB or BFS - not sure about ORK though.

[racheldebuitleir]

dya really think commuting is a feasible plan for long haul with BA? i just asked about that in another thread coz id been thinkn about it. dya not think maybe it might get messy and complicated?or do many people do it?

[Airbus321-200]

hey!

Long haul out of ireland is vertually non exsistent!! EI as you know are a mix. Its a pity that Ireland hasnt got a long haul only airline like virgin. But with a population of only 4 and a half million theres only so much you can do. Airlines like XL and first choice do the odd charter but even though they have local crew during the summer i dont think they use them as they are only one one type of aircraft.

Truth is if you want only long haul you'll have to go to london or commute. A lot of people commute. I know crew who live in ireland and work for AIr NZ, Virgin, BA, United..... and they commute. But they have very little time off and the cost of flights mean you can really settle down.:(

[bronni]

Hello
I'm just wondering what size is a crew seat?
'Able to fit comfortably into a crew seat harness without modification '
What size can you be to fit in one?
Thanksfor your help
xxx

[A320 galleybitch]

Can I just say that your question is not very clear.

Would you be asking what size, as in:

1. You are a very petit person
2. You are a BIB (Big is Beautiful) person

[bronni]

Hi
I am how you put it BIB lol
sorry, i didnt really word that question very well!
Thanks
xxx

[sam.lk7]

Some Airlines require "Weight to be in proportion to height"

keep that in mind and goodluck!

SLK

[VS-LHRCSA]

At the BA interview, you are required to sit and and strap into a jumpseat, then assume the brace position. This was introduced when some people in training were failing because they couldn't strap in. There were also a couple of people on line that had problems too.

sam.lk7, you're speaking from an aussie point of view, in the EU there is very tricky anti-discrimination employment legislation regarding weight. Some airlines may specify 'weight in proportion' but they leave themselves open to potential lawsuits.

[sam.lk7]

in AUS there are anti-discrimination laws, but the airlines argue that its for 'safety' reasons.

[VS-LHRCSA]

Yeah, it's the same here but when actually challenged, airlines are hard put to proove that being overweight is a safety issue. Not being able to fit your crew seat is definite and cannot be challenged.

It can also be an issue on some charter airlines where the aisles are narrower (eg 2-4-2 on the 767, or 3-3-3 on the A330) but I have yet to see an 'aisle test'.

[AmyW47]

Hello!
I was wondering does anyone work at NEMA and can recommend or give me some advice on the airline they work for and also when is the best time to start looking for vacancies as I cant seem to find any in my region!! Are there any good websites I can try to find a job at NEMA?

Thank you!!

[bmibaby.com]

Hi Amy,

The best thing to do is to go on to the individual websites of each airline that has a crew base at East Midlands and put in your application to them. bmibaby are currently accepting CVs though not sure if they're holding courses for EMA at the moment. XL.com are definitely recruiting, and you can do that through their website. Thomas Cook are still accepting CVs and Thomsonfly begin their recruitment in February. First Choice have fulfilled their recruitment needs and easyJet never recruit for EMA, it's a popular base to transfer to though. Hope that helps.

[julz22]

Hi this is my first time on here!
was just wondering if any body else is in a waiting pool for a job? and how long it is before you have to reaply?:bored:

Iv attended 2open days and got 2interviews with differant companys, one of them i was rejected and the other i was put in a waiting pool. Its been neerly a year now and still no word:ugh:. Should i reaply for same company?

Any help would be great x

[Mile High Member]

Well as flexible as they can be? I am about to apply for a few cc vacancies. Problem is, I don't drive and live about 12 miles from MAN but we have excellent public transport to the airport which means I could easily get there by 8am. Now I know life isn't as easy as that, especially when planes have to stick to a timetable and not around their staff. I wouldn't mind having the odd taxi (at £25 one-way) and I will mention I don't drive at any interviews I attend but really, how likely would I be to be put on a really early or really late flight?

[speedbird-lgw]

i can almost guarantee that you'll have earlies and lates and quite often a typical airline like charter will make u do 3 earlies before 6 am followed by later flights.

[VS-LHRCSA]

Not being able to drive to work or get transport at odd hours is going to restrict the number of airlines you can apply to.

I would suggest a long haul airline so you only have to make the journey into work once a week.

No matter what airline you apply to, DO NOT draw attention to the fact that you have no access to transport, or that you would like flexibility. It will definately go against you.

[bencat27]

Hi guys and gals, was just wondering as found out about the cabin crew direct e course you can do, if it is in fact worth doing? I'm desperate to get a job doing Cabin Crew but have been rejected at application form stage by Virgin and Qantas so feel I must be doing something wrong or maybe I'm under qualified being only 19! So basically what I'm asking is would it be a good idea to do it and will it actually increase my chances of getting through to an interview and ultimately a job?

Thanks guys

[Abusing_the_sky]

I would advise you not to go with this course as all airlines have different training courses and different procedures, according to the fleet they have or numerous other reasons. These courses are a waste of money, all they do is teach you how to smile, a bit of grooming maybe, sales.... which i am sure you know anyway.

If you are so desperate to get in this industry try and apply for a short haul airline, like EasyJet or Bmi. Baby. You will then get the experience and be ready to move your career fwd.

Also don't stick to 1 or 2 airlines. Apply, Apply, Apply, to every airline you know and can think of. If that's your dream, don't give up.

But that's just my personal opinion

Let us know how it goes.
Rgds,
ATS

[skywatch77]

I'm starting a new training course for soon worldwide and i'm so nervous. I've done this before but I am worried about passing all the exams. I struggled through last time and I felt some people breezed through the exams easier without so much as a sweat. I'm enthusiastic about this and going to give it my 110% no doubt but I want to get rid of worrying about passing the exams. When I am on a flight I am so confident. I struggled through the training but on my first flights i was getting letters from pax for looking after them so well and I remember my senior saying have I flown before because I'm so confident but in the training I tense up more and I know I shouldn't do that to get through this again.

I know my stuff and study hard but before an exam I feel literally sick like throwing up and it doesn't do me any good at all.

Can someone give me advice please. I am going to be working for one of the best airlines and want to give it my everything and more.

[BenSherman]

Is Appearance everything?

Hello everyone,

Over the past few months I have been talking to people about my chosen career path of cabin crew. Many people believe that the whole career is “amazing” and that many qualities are needed in order to be successful.

However, many of those have said that it’s not qualifications as such, but it’s how you present yourself as a person, e.g., appearance and personality. Many say appearance overpowers personality. This has got me thinking whether this is for me. I know many are to respond saying, “personality is the main thing, don’t worry,” but is it really?

I do have qualifications, well, learning and gaining them through college and I do hope that I am able to be cabin crew, but I can’t stop thinking whether appearance will be my downfall.

Have you ever had any insecurities about this?

[Tulip2007]

If it's your chosen career go for it! Your enthusiasm will shine through! I'm not a perfect 10 but came well presented and super prepared and got through. A year on I'm really enjoying it and couldn't imagine doing anything else.

One thing I would say is read through all of the FAQ and interview tips so you are well prepared. I would have found it harder to come up with answers to situational questions that they ask (such as..give me a time when you've been resilient) if I hadn't prepared before the interview.

Personally I think personality is everything, especially in this career.

Good luck and be confident! :)

[nesboy 1976]

Personality is important, but when i'm recruiting crew they must have a little bit of noddle about them aswell!

Appearance is important too. Don't turn up at an interview with your tie halfway down your neck, shirt untucked and shoes not polished and expect to get through the group stages!! Most interviewers worth their salt will be able to extract what answers they want from you, but you do need to research about the company (if possible) and practise interview techniques.

Nesboy

[EYGPT]

Hi Nesboy 1976
Do you recruit CC for Virgin?

Bensherman , don't doubt yourself , GO FOR IT and good luck:ok:

[nesboy 1976]

No i don't sorry.

I agree though. Enjoy it, make the most of it and don't be afraid to ask questions.

Nesboy

[rachelsmith]

do you find it hard to work as cabin crew because you never work with the same people as it is hard to bond and because you have to pretend to be happy all day?
I bit of a generalisation I know!

Rachel

[speedbird-lgw]

yeh it can be quite hard, constantly havinbg to get to know crew, if you work with crew you dont like it can be a very long 10 hour duty!

[rachelsmith]

Hi,
just another question lol! Do you know why check in staff get paid more than cabin crew? (atleast the job descriptions ive read they do) :)

Rachel

[VS-LHRCSA]

On the plus side, it gives you a chance to make new friends every day.

Also, if you ARE stuck with a dodgy crew, depending on your airline, you probably won't see them ever again. That can have its advantages.

[VS-LHRCSA]

What job specs are these?

Don't forget cabin crew earn allowances and flight pay. Ground staff at some airlines may earn shift pay. Factor in you have to drive in every day and bring or buy lunch, you can end up being much worse off than flying staff.

Of course, this all depends on the airline in question. Working on the ground can be very stressful. I've done both and they each have their pros and cons but I can say that personally, on the ground, I didn't earn anywhere near as much as I should have considering what I had to put up with.

[rachelsmith]

Thanks

on the BA site the customer service contact is £14,251 per annum plus shift pay and short haul from heathrow starting at £11,421 per annum.

There just seems a big difference in basic pay, but i guess there is a lot to take into consideration

VS-LHRCSA was working at customer service that bad?! :)

[SuperBoy]

Rachel,

If you take the incidentals into consideration for CC at BA your average annual income is between 22000-30000.

There are many other variables but I do know crew on a lot more.

[VS-LHRCSA]

Put it this way, I'm currently an A5 at BA which is supervisory level - I clear £1050 each month, that's it.

Crew may have lower basic salaries but make it up with allowances etc.

And yes, check-in can be pretty bad. Pop into the terminal when JNB, LOS, TLV, ISB are checking in and see for yourself.

[xylence]

Hello out there.
I'm a 18year old student originally from Denmark
but I have lived in England for about 1 year now, studying
travel and tourism and health & social care in 6th form.
I have got some standard characters which are equivalent to the GCSEs here in England.

I am thinking about applying as a flight attendant in easyJet and does any of you know what the interwiev is about?

- Line.

[justD]

Hey xylence,

You might wanna try looking for your answers in the easyJet - Wannabes and Recruitment or in any easyjet related topics.

[xylence]

alright.
thankyou (:

[xylence]

Hi again.
I've got another question.
I don't have the best eye vision. Is it allowed to wear glasses/contacts
or is it required to have a perfect vision to be a flight attendant?

[a n n e]

Hi all,

I just found out today that I was unsuccessful at my assessment for British Airways:sad:. I received what I assume is a standard rejection email which contained the following...

"Due to the high volume of applications we are unable to offer feedback.

We would value your feedback on our recruitment process. Please click on the link below to complete our online feedback questionnaire which should take no more than 5 minutes"

To be honest my immediate thought was 'well you can get lost if you think I'm going to spend my valuable 5 minutes giving you feedback if you can't be a:mad:d to give me 5 minutes of your time'.

But what I'd really like to know is what other airlines recruitment policies are regarding giving feedback. Because I am definately planning on applying to other airlines, but if I keep being rejected at this stage and receive no feedback as to why, I'm wondering if its worth me possibly wasting my time?

All info gratefully received!

:confused:

[sebby]

Airlines receive thousands upon thousands of applications and to give feedback would be very costly and time consuming. They also like to have applicants that something that is natural not coached and giving feedback could ultimately do that. No airline I have heard of or come accross gives feedback.

Providing the airline with feedback on their recruitment process could improve a lot for the applicants and what they go through in waiting for the yes or no. I suggest giving them feedback and if you feel you have been hard done by or if there was anything they could improve on that would help you be more successful in the future then offer it to them. eg you may have felt uncomfortable with the size of the groups during the group sessions etc

Good luck!

[AirborneSoon]

Actually I've never met any business that will tell you why they are not giving you a job. In a way it's probably a good idea as most people would be more offended than assisted by the reasons offered. Not to mention opening the doorway to unsuccessful applicants coming back and arguing against the feedback offered.

Most of the time if I think back on the interview I do know where I was weak or possibily not suitable for that particular company. And I also firmly believe that when company rejects you they are doing you a favour. Most often it's because your personality or preferred working style will not be a good fit for their company culture. You would be unhappy there.

You may not want to hear that or even agree with it when you have been rejected for what appeared to be your dream job. But trust the people that work there, they understand the company from a perspective you don't and do know what type of people will be happy there.

I've often found myself in surprise positions with company's I would never have thought of working for. And almost without exception it's been a better fit for me than the job I initally thought I wanted.

Kepp going because BA just may not be a good match for you. It's almost certain there's a better employer who'll love working for more out there.

[VS-LHRCSA]

It took me two goes and then a two year wait in a holding pool before I started with BA. Try again in a year, it is worth it. Perhaps try getting into another airline in the meantime, that's what I did.

I have to admit though, it's pretty cheeky of them to ask for feedback after rejecting you. I would suggest you fill it out constructively. The fact that you've bothered to help them out, even after rejection will show you are a reasonable person, it should stay on your file if you keep the same email for your next application. It could make a difference for next time.

[I Just Want To Fly]

I believe that you are able to submit your request in writing to the company, and request a copy of any personal data they hold on you. The company is entitled to collect an administration fee from you, but has to give you the information.

Having said that, if you went through this ordeal, you would get your feedback, but you would also get majorly black listed!!!

There are no airlines which provide feedback to applicants.

[urok]

Not entirely true! At my airline, we would give feedback to final round applicants who didnt make it. Usually it was very general feedback, but it was always very constructive. Mind you, as I said, we would only do this with final round applicants - Id hate to see it used for the inital cull!!

[Marty172]

Yeah I heard that all UK companies are legally obliged to make available any any info/ notes they hold about you if you put your request in writing. But as has previousely been mentionned, this would probably blacklist you with the company concerned, so only take this option if you definitely don't want to re-apply with them in the future.

Good luck Anne with your future applications. A high proportion of people flying as crew have had unsuccessful applications in the past so don't give up.

[tripperchris89]

i got rejected by thomas cook, virgin ( who gave feedback ) and jet2 but ive applied for first choice, qantas and bmi and now ive got interviews with them 3 im hoping something can come out of it, cause they liked the sound of me!

good luck and i hope you can be flying soon just like im hoping!
xx

[skyline86]

Hi! Everybody. I'm a new member. Next sunday i will go to interview to become and cabin crew. Please give me advice. What're questions they will ask me in the interview? I will be test for contact,my healthy. Contact is important. What're question they will ask in Contact test? Thanks for your help!

[Little Princess]

Tanks for the advice and i know what you mean...when i when for open days dats what happend with me too.