Daily Per Diems

[Bearing 123]

Hi All,

I know this has been spoken about before,and I have done a search but for the life of me, I can't find the thread, so please bear with me.

What should the normal PD be for a CJ3 F/O in UK. Also is it supposed to increase with a fleet change, i.e. moving to a 800XP or is it a standard PD.

Many Thanks

[Flintstone]

"Daily per diems".

Are they like ATM machines (automatic teller machine machines) and PIN numbers (personal identity number numbers)?

Why would they increase with larger aircraft? Does a pilot on a Hawker eat more than one on a CJ3?

[Bearing 123]

Oops Silly me Flintstone !!! and there was me thinking that I could get some helpful advice on here. :ugh:
Good point about the 800 driver eating more than a CJ chappie though :ok:

[Flintstone]

Yeah, sorry about that. I mean, it's not as if the info isn't on here somewhere:p http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=297589

[Bearing 123]

Thanks Flintstone, appreciate it.

[Duck Rogers]

On a similar note have you heard of the £800 one-off payment you can claim from Inland Revenue?

I don't have the details to hand but could dig it up unless some generous soul beats me to it.

[Bearing 123]

:ooh:Please do tell more!!!!!!!! £800 free? from the Taxman? I'll have some of that thanks.:D

[bbj3]

We are on $225 a day-think we are near the top end,average seems to be in the region of $100 to $150
Hope that helps

[CJ Driver]

Your company may have different rules, but I have never been particularly fond of per diems. You need to consider what your employer will NOT pay for as a result of giving you this "free money", and then figure out if you are actually better off.

The advantage for the employee is that instead of collecting receipts and filling in expense claims for small living expenses, you just pay for everything out of your own pocket, and claim the per diem instead. The advantage for the employer is that it is easier to hand out a per diem than it is to actually process expense claims for bus tickets and bars of chocolate.

In each case, employee and employer, you hope that the result is slightly cash positive, and administratively simpler.

Some years ago my employer had a policy that you could EITHER collect a per diem of $50 (it was worth more then) with no receipts required OR you could claim back whatever you spent on food, snacks, etc with a full expense claim (with receipts) but no per diem. The employees divided cleanly into two camps - the guys who sat in their hotel rooms eating Big Macs and looking forward to the "profit" they would make on the per diem, and the guys (including me) who considered it our duty to eat fine foods and drink fine wines to ensure that we routinely exceeded the $50 "target". I certainly know who had more fun!
;)

[ToneTheWone]

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/EIM50000.htm (http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/EIM50000.htm)

Beer vouchers to me please:ok:

[Flintstone]

Damn you Tone, I logged in to post that.

How'd you fancy sharing the beer with the originator of the idea?

That being me :E

[ToneTheWone]

Flintstone, I'm nothing if not fair. It's a deal, beer vouchers split 50/50. Don't hold your breath though, nothing has turned up yet.

However if I was an accountant people would be beating my door down offerering bundles of cash for providing such information:{

[Flintstone]

Good man, see you in the pub.

Mine's a large one. Oooer missus, f'nar f'nar, snick snick etc

[pfnotflying]

I really depends in which contry you pay tax. I work for a UK person but I pay the taxes in Italy. For me it is better to pay by myself than claim the money back, because I didn't pay taxes on the refunds.

[CE525BGuy]

I fly a CJ2/3 and get $2.00 an hour as an F/O in the U.S. I would like to know how that compares to other corporate U.S. rates. I came from a cargo airline that paid $1.45 an hour.