Cebu Pacific Pay Adjustment

[Zone 220]

I've heard rumors of salary increase to cebu pac pilots. Is it true?
:confused:

[yowdude]

its not a rumor.:p

[Zone 220]

wow!!! that's great!!! that's good news for all the pilots in cebu pac. congratulations!!!!:ok:

[RAfault]

wait till the next pilot retention program goes online......:cool:

[Zone 220]

[QUOTE]
wait till the next pilot retention program goes online......:cool:


is that bad news? :eek:

[planestupid]

5% increase of nutin is still nutin!!!:{

[mandaragit]

what cebupac pilots want are better medical benefits, retirement plan and A380... to stay for good.

[arigato]

Bros',

Don't be fooled by promises, there are still tons of it undelivered up to now. This is just another "tactical gimmicry" by the management to delay you or the most marketable pilots amongst you to move-out. Remember that your precious time is running out as well as your opportunity to "get-in" to any of the Best Airlines around that suits your qualification as well as your worth. It's a fair game and the market for qualified Pilots will close soon when all the vacansies are filled-up. Delay means opportunity lost.

Let the Airlines that "PAY PEANUTS, GET MONKEYS", coz' they deserve it.

BUT NOT YOU...:ok:

[jamestaylor]

Better Deal - options to move up to bigger A/C (777?) later - and a good young team with huge growth opportunties............... And a management team that respects and supports the key contributions of all - especially the pilots...........

[chairwrecker]

arigato, sadly, may be correct. look what 5J management did to the engineers. promises promises so they won't go to Airphil, but up to now, no improvement. instead, MB hires expats who cost 10x more than the locals!

looking at that record, i think 5J will try to bluff their way into not giving in to most demands from the pilots, and some pilots will leave anyway. then the vacancies will be filled with expats who enjoy at least 5x higher salary+perks, and the pinoy pilots who decided to be loyal will still be waiting for their promised pay adjustments. what a shame....

[9ball]

It would be nice if DCtrue, Windwalker, and Navitimer can comment..........

[chairwrecker]

why does the livery seem too small?

well, i guess it's time cebu pac got some serious competition for passengers AND crew! they have become too compacent the last couple of years that PAL was the only one they had to beat.

then next yr we have "chismis" abt airasia and jetstar also eager to get a slice of the philippines' soon-to-be 20 million aviation passengers market. oohhhhh that's too exciting thinking abt it now...:ok:

[jetcruiser]

C-95,

is it only the basic pay? how much more can you get including the flight pay?
Average hours per month?

thanks,
JC

[onieangeles]

hey cebupac guys salary for your A320 is too much way ahead compare to seair 328, what more to our A319 so just think if you have brains do the mathematics airforce guys. i apply in your company but then i realize i dont have future in cebupac so what now! the world turns up and down we have the A319 and your pilots is very eager to join our family.

[toffeebuenafe]

Mr. i-realized-bupak-is-not-good-enough-for-me, note your errors:
- an A320 does not earn. it's an airplane, SIR.
- learn to use the the word "THE". it wont hurt.
- take note of the past tense. like i applied and i realized.
- pilots is? or pilots are?

it's not because you dont like bupak. IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT A PILOT. Get english classes from a college like Ateneo, you surely need it :ok:

[cessna95]

hahahahaha!

awesome reply toffee!

[kontra]

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[LoverD]

Onie is definitely NOT former 220th AW. Go PAF!

[yano]

Is it true that Ceb Pac pilots are leaving for Air Asia/ Air Phil ?

[Reedeye]

Yap, its DCTrue!

[yano]

Thank you, Reedeye.

and who's DCTrue? :rolleyes:

[cessna95]

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[camper]

nakakahiya:=:}

[Bill Smith]

So what is the package?

[emmma]

Hello Guys... do you know more or less how much Cebu is paying FO on atr?just to have an idea... PM appreciated thanks...

[9ball]

Voluntary Improved
Benefit Program

New Productivity Pay / Hr
1 to 60 61 above

LFO 600 1,000
ATR FO 650 1,050
Airbus FO 1,100 1,500
ATR Captain 1,600 2,200
Airbus Captain 2,300 2,700


Calendar Days Off
• When a pilot is asked to work an extra day, consuming any of the
8 days-off per month, they will be compensated with an additional
1/30 of their basic pay for every days-off used.

Back-Of-The Clock
• Additional allowance from the 4th back-of the clock flight
rendered in a month
• P5,000 per captain / P2,500 per first officer

Supplement Medical Coverage
• Medical Fund - Additional P500 per flight crew/month shall
be provided by the company. This fund is to be managed by
CEB and HMO provider for medical assistance outside the
coverage of the HMO.

Vacation Leaves
• Vacation leaves for the years 2009, 2008 & 2007, still unused as of
April 1, 2011, will be converted to cash based on 100% of daily rate
• Daily rate based on basic salary as of April 1, 2011
• Payout shall be on June 15, 2011


Amended employment terms to include 90-day
separation notice
- Effective April 1, 2011

[arigato]

Here is the trick!!!

They gave you additional "chippy" then made you their "prisoner" by curtailing your freedom to leave with the "90 days separation notice". Watch-out for more tricks... :hmm:

Trick counter!!!

As a rated A320 Captain, your "NET MINIMUM PAY" after taxes right now is around P360K (80 block hours) in addition to a considerably nice TC with Air Asia Philippines. Yet, you are working at HOME.

Again, would you consider this an IMPROVEMENT?

Maybe, if it was implemented 5 years ago. :)

Therefore, a very "BAD JOKE" !!! :=

[ReverseFlight]

Does Ceb Pac hire foreign non-Filipino F/Os on their A320s ?

[yano]

any idea on the number of pilots leaving despite the "improved" package?

[takamasa]

9ball,

just wondering how to read these number?/

New Productivity Pay / Hr
1 to 60 61 above

LFO 600 1,000
ATR FO 650 1,050
Airbus FO 1,100 1,500
ATR Captain 1,600 2,200
Airbus Captain 2,300 2,700

r they in US or Peso?

r these no. for monthly pay or ??

[9ball]

figures are in Peso

Productivity pay, its the hourly rate for pilots while inside the cockpit.

[yano]

what was the previous rates prior to these numbers?

and will they be implementing workload like air asia's (4days work/3days off) ? :O

[takamasa]

is it like no more monthly pay at all ?

or hourly pay is on top of the base salary?

[Superpilot]

Are Cebu finally opening up to foreign (expat ) FOs? I see the latest ads not stating the requirement to be a Philippines national.

[bravehawk461]

yes, they are open to expats! pass your CVs now. AIRBUS and ATR FOs.

[cessna95]

hourly pay is on top of the basic pay.

workload like airasia? hmm....let's just say you will love the schedule they give you.:ugh:

[Carlitos14]

Hi!!

Anyone knows when are they going to begin hiring FO´s??? I know they need pilots soon, but I do not know how will be the selection process and when do they want to do so.

bye!!

[cessna95]

and today starts a new exodus after being given the 2 month bonus. :D:D

[yano]

care to share the number of pilots leaving? :8

[winglet777]

As of mar 1, a total of 46 pilots have resigned fromthe company within the period oct 2010 to mar 1 2011.. These pilots are now the workhorse drivers of tiger , airphil and zest airbus fleet. Alarmed by the exodus, the owner and mgmt immediately raised the salary on the 1st week ofmarch by an average of 18% pay rise on the productivity pay translating to an average of add'l U.S. $1300 for airbus captain and $ 900 for airbus fo respectively (figure is before tax), To make the offer more sweeter,and with the record breaking profit year for cebu pacfic, the owner awarded all pilots and employees an additional 2 months bonus (14 and 15th month pay) as part of annual profit sharing bonus on the company's 15th anniversary last mar 8 .

But this incentives comes with a price,in return, the company wants all the pilots to sign and employee-employee agreement before the apr 1 effectivity of pay increase stating therein that you are amenable to a 90 days resignation notice to the company (in contrary to a 30 days period mandated by law)

Still the increase was short of evryone expectations and still way below the salary range being recieved by airphil, sea tiger and zest airbus crew. With the mgmt refusal to show its sincerity in raising the working conditions, improving the pay and its unconditional determination to preserve its pilots, pilots moral is still low and everyone wants to go out if opportunity permits. As such, 5 airbus captains and 5 f/o's have submitted their resignation yesterday to join their former cebpac comrades in tiger sea air. Total count so far as of mar 9 is 56 pilots resignation. We expect more exodus since a total of 30 captains and 20 f/o's passed the air asia interview and due for sim eval in the coming days. We dont know whats the future holds for cebu pac but im petty sure that more flt cancellation and parked aircraftwith no crew to fly.

[yano]

Thank you for the info, winglet777 :ok:

[Flying.AMJ]

Winglet777 thank you so much for the info... That keeps my hopes going to be an airline pilot someday...

[takamasa]

anyone would have the info. on roster ?

thanks!!

[eyespeak]

if you want oppression like no other, be one of us! :=

[parsifal]

there are no tyrants, if there are no slaves!

if you think you are being oppressed, why don"t you fight or leave? you are free to do that, aren"t you? if you are in labor (not pregnant), know that there is such a thing as unionism? if you don't want it because LYG said he doesn't want it, then you deserve what you get - a slave.

stop whimpering or whining. do something, muttley!!

[takamasa]

does any one would have clue on the basic salary of FOs?

[jester_icarus]

Ahhhhhhhhh.... its been a while.

[ekdrone]

what's the FO salary? anyone?

[Rubis]

expats capt are $8.5 to $9.0 with Hotec @85 hrs. %70 pay during training.
FO's $4.0 plus the same as Capt

Plus you get some Orange shirts!

First day is drink the "kool-aid" meeting with management, then Eval at Clark, then expect about 4 weeks to get PH license and go on full pay.

Stay at Tavelers Hotel on Roxas Blvd and listen to Maria in the band during evenings.....she's hot for a 38 year old. Hey mate, how could you pass it up?

[takamasa]

any one would be able to tell what the layovers destinations for 5J?

thanks, thanks!!

[insert_name]

I have checked their website, but nothing.
How do you apply, is it through an agency - or can you go direct.
Cheers

[Metro man]

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[9ball]

to all expat Airbus pilots. welcome to the world of the redeye!

[9ball]

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[Fubaliera]

For the local guys with lots of jet time how long does it take to upgrade a cebu pacific

[takamasa]

mind asking if there's anyone current working at the company.

mind if you pm me. i have several questions regarding joining the company

thanks a lot

[St. Ex]

5J has a seniority system in place which management respects (most of the time at least). Whenever the need arises, FOs are upgraded according to seniority provided the FO is qualified. An evaluation process (which varies according to the Chief Pilot Training's whims) is conducted then the upgrade candidates are selected based on the results.

The shortest term on record prior to upgrade would be around a little less than a year from right seat to left. At present, there are a few senior 4 year FOs who have yet to be upgraded. Most of the senior FOs due for upgrade have been with the company for about 3 years.

[St. Ex]

only 2: Incheon and Cebu.

[St. Ex]

Expect to fly 90 hours a month except during the months of your ground and sim recurrencies and license renewal when you would be flying 70 hours. Typical week would be 5 days flying and 1 day off followed by 1 day home reserve then 5 days flying.

Local hire Airbus FOs expect +/- Php120k-140k take home per month depending on your seniority (merit increase system).

[takamasa]

that's why they are always quick turnaround, never leave their planes at the outport.

90 hrs a month isnt bad at all, people can earn their experience as quick as possible, may move on to different airlines in the nearest future.

how about length of the contract for local hired?

[cessna95]

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[9ball]

The Breen man can kiss my ass..........

[chairwrecker]

the breen could never have written something as diplomatic as this -- congratulations to the ghost writer! :ok:

[9ball]

diplomatic.........I wish he could fly me 90 hours next month. and wake up at 3AM and finish at 4PM.

freaking paper pusher!:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

[nandyg1]

:) all work and no play makes you go nuts:}

jester , specter et al : we live right infront of the horsemen so dont be a stranger!

[jester_icarus]

....huh???!!! sorry just woke up.. been flying a lot.

[Skydive007]

Hi
Can anyone please tell me the present salary for captain in Cebu pacific after tax etc etc. take home ???

[Jaz and the Fat Man]

New Capt pay for local and expat is about $5,000 per month net. That might flex +$1000 depending if you fly 100 hours etc. If you have several thousand hours of PIC on the 320, and are an instructor, you could see it creep up into the 7,000 range but no expats can teach. Actually, this is good money if you are local in the PI and have spent your life there.

[Skymaster337]

>>>>>> Can anyone please tell me the present salary for captain in Cebu pacific after tax etc etc. take home ???<<<<<<<<<

Based upon an 80 hour month, approximately P300,000

[airflight01]

How about FO's in CebPac, how much, net?
Thanks!